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So lets try again ( Conversations of Philosophy )
Feb 02 2009 08:43pm

Maher
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Maher
Because It is, indeed, a neat thing to share thoughts with each others about everything...

So This topic is going to be about everything and only about everything...

Yeah you can put on some crazy stuff if you are feeling like that way, but so that nobody will get offended...

Let the thoughts flow in! and lets try to found reason for everything!

So what you think about this topic, about your life and about everything...?

If you don't find anything major, instead of try something minor and see how It will develop...

b00m! People go and think!

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Due to some recent happenings on this topic... It made me to create first rules :eek:

RULES:

1. Please don't diss the philosophy
2. If you don't like it, leave it!
3. If you like it, you post on it!
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Feb 02 2009 08:42pm

Kaelis
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Clink (Shiny New Padlock)

First of 2009 - Into the abyss it goes

Bye Bye :)

closed by request of the creator
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This comment was edited by Kaelis on Feb 02 2009 08:45pm.


Feb 02 2009 08:43pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

Why.. lock it?
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


Feb 02 2009 08:26pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I say we start a healthy debate right now!

I believe communism is made of evil and capitalism is made by good hearted Samaritans!
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Feb 02 2009 08:02pm

Maher
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 Maher

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Lol, no worries. I was slowly starting to enjoy reading peoples view points. :)


<3 :D Amusing isn't it... It is about wholeness indeed... 107th reply... and so much information allready :)


Out of the 107 how many are actually relevant though? Lol.


They all are... I think ? lol :D
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 08:03pm.

Feb 02 2009 07:43pm

ZantuS
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 ZantuS

You can't be that bored Cuth lol :D

WHY ARENT YOU AT CLASS??
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This comment was edited by ZantuS on Feb 02 2009 07:44pm.

Feb 02 2009 07:40pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

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Lol, no worries. I was slowly starting to enjoy reading peoples view points. :)


<3 :D Amusing isn't it... It is about wholeness indeed... 107th reply... and so much information allready :)


Out of the 107 how many are actually relevant though? Lol.
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Feb 02 2009 05:50pm

Maher
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 Maher

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Lol, no worries. I was slowly starting to enjoy reading peoples view points. :)


<3 :D Amusing isn't it... It is about wholeness indeed... 107th reply... and so much information allready :)
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Feb 02 2009 05:47pm

Cuthalion
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 Cuthalion

Lol, no worries. I was slowly starting to enjoy reading peoples view points. :)
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Feb 02 2009 05:47pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

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Maher, I really am struggling to follow your line of communication.

Lets all try to get back on topic and discuss reasons why we hold certain opinions rather than just saying
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That's my reality like it or dump it


Edit: Sanity prevailed whilst I was writting this post, thanks Cuth :)


Come to the IRC! :D

Well does anybody have a clue about moore's paradox ?

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eh that grammar nazi statement was ? directed at me :)
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 05:49pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:44pm

Lirael
 - Jedi Council
 Lirael

Maher, I really am struggling to follow your line of communication.

Lets all try to get back on topic and discuss reasons why we hold certain opinions rather than just saying
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That's my reality like it or dump it


Edit: Sanity prevailed whilst I was writting this post, thanks Cuth :)
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This comment was edited by Lirael on Feb 02 2009 05:45pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:40pm

Cuthalion
 - Padawan
 Cuthalion

Dudes and Dudettes, this is getting a little heated. Lets try and stay on topic. :) Without the implied name calling.
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Feb 02 2009 05:36pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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But yeah you can choose also are you some kind of grammar nazi or enjoying about life... Well for sure... I'm the last one... :P

This isn't really me being a grammar nazi smartass here, I am saying that your lack of language skills is a problem, not pointing out irrelevant typos or such(like I do sometimes, not here on this topic). And that comment from you... pointless. And then you wonder why people are losing their respect for you, weird.

PS. You didn't know I was a Finn Qin? YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT?!?!:D


just about hit the point.

I have no problem with you being a finn, you i heard rumors you guys have knife like nails on your feet!dangerous! ;D
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This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on Feb 02 2009 05:36pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:34pm

ZantuS
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 ZantuS

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But yeah you can choose also are you some kind of grammar nazi or enjoying about life... Well for sure... I'm the last one... :P

This isn't really me being a grammar nazi smartass here, I am saying that your lack of language skills is a problem, not pointing out irrelevant typos or such(like I do sometimes, not here on this topic). And that comment from you... pointless. And then you wonder why people are losing their respect for you, weird.

PS. You didn't know I was a Finn Qin? YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH IT?!?!:D
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Feb 02 2009 05:22pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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A Cop! is all about judgement :)

I gave directions where to drive with these conversation...


Yes, a paradox to that kindof question 'SOUNDS' like a cop out'. 'sounds',like i said.

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Your point is just about prove me wrong ? and It is quite understandable... Because I'm saying too much of right things >_> (btw this was provocation, again)

Yeah, i'll pay ball.

And im the one stating things as facts? Don't be a hypocrite.

Secondly;

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Debate; a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints: a debate in the Senate on farm price supports.


Opposing view points, Debate doesen't work with two opinions that have no differences, or with people who share the same views or opinions. you just end up agreeing entirely. .
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I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop


This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on Feb 02 2009 05:28pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:15pm

Maher
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 Maher

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well it does sound like that. Trust me, that wasn't meant as an insult. Reason im saying that is, philosophy is pretty much about anything and everything', a debate is healthy until people star getting hissy and stropping off because other people dont agree with them. And you pretty much said because im arguing my pooint, and don't agree with you, you want to debate with someone else.


eh I didn't see it as insult... Judgement and Insult are two different things... Don't mix them with each others... They are two different kind of words... and I didn't take it as insult... I just told you what's my reality again ?

Your point is just about prove me wrong ? and It is quite understandable... Because I'm saying too much of right things >_> (btw this was provocation, again)

and look who made judgements at first place, at the start of topic ?

A Cop! is all about judgement :)

I gave directions where to drive with this conversation...

and I only answer with judgement to judgement because It is so amusing :D

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Well fixed grammar, dang it Zantus <3
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 05:17pm.

Feb 02 2009 05:06pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

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Talion... I have my friends in Real Life... So It isn't that needed... But yeah you can choose are you object of my amusement or a human who can improve me... :P

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Thinking is always better way than judging... what you just did... and therefore you are object of my amusement... tsk tsk


well it does sound like that. Trust me, that wasn't meant as an insult. Reason im saying that is, philosophy is pretty much about anything and everything', a debate is healthy until people star getting hissy and stropping off because other people dont agree with them. And you pretty much said because im arguing my pooint, and don't agree with you, you want to debate with someone else.

Correct me if im wrong.

PS: zantus is a fin!? AMAGAD
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This comment was edited by NotSoLittleCaesar on Feb 02 2009 05:07pm.

Feb 02 2009 04:31pm

Maher
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 Maher

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No, seriously you should... That is not the only example('Always is learning'). And yes, people can and do misunderstand your points because of your language. It happens when you directly translate Finnish expressions, which don't work in English. As a finn I see those. *:):):)*


yeah I understand that very well... Still It doesn't remove my reality... But I just wanted to be sure...

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As who's problem it is, they don't understand me ?
I still have many friends in here, in JA.net, who understand my english... Which is enough... Also that's why I try to improve...

Third time, judging doesn't help anybody! dang it! :D

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One thing also... Ever heard of finglish term ?
Yeah that's about meeee! :D

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lol I should really think these things to the end... too many edits... But yeah you can choose also are you some kind of grammar nazi or enjoying about life... Well for sure... I'm the last one... :P
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 04:56pm.

Feb 02 2009 04:30pm

ZantuS
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 ZantuS

No, seriously you should... That is not the only example('Always is learning'). And yes, people can and do misunderstand your points because of your language. It happens when you directly translate Finnish expressions, which don't work in English. As a finn I see those. *:):):)*
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Feb 02 2009 04:22pm

Maher
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 Maher

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...always is learning :)

Geez you should really improve your English. People might understand you better.


No I don't ? Because this is what I have... and I make quite clear points... :P

Anywhoo you took wrong example... 'Always is learning' It means like you see it :)

and I'm not fixing it even you tell me to fix it :P
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But if you have understood my point! and you are now using my methods against me...

That's just awesome!

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Sounds to me like maher wants someone who will just listen to him, rather than debate with :)


Talion... I have my friends in Real Life... So It isn't that needed... But yeah you can choose are you object of my amusement or a human who can improve me... :P

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Thinking is always better way than judging... what you just did... and therefore you are object of my amusement... tsk tsk
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 04:26pm.

Feb 02 2009 04:20pm

NotSoLittleCaesar
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 NotSoLittleCaesar

Sounds to me like maher wants someone who will just listen to him, rather than debate with :)
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Feb 02 2009 04:16pm

ZantuS
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 ZantuS

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...always is learning :)

Geez you should really improve your English. People might understand you better.
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Feb 02 2009 03:58pm

Maher
 - Jedi Knight
 Maher

It is my reality! and I like world where the wars aren't raging!
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Feb 02 2009 03:57pm

Masta
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 Masta

UN, your presence is offensive to my aspirations towards world domination.
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Feb 02 2009 03:50pm

Maher
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 Maher

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anyway its not the things you say, but how, in what way and in what context you say them.


I can answer this way...

Your observation is quite understandable Sazabi as I'm doing it on purpose...

Or I can answer this way...

O Rly ? (Which is more provocating ?)

Anywhoo I thought, for example, You knew me ?
But well like I have been saying, always is learning :)

and that's what my philosophy is about... Knowing something isn't a self-evident truth... It is about improving point...

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and I'm really sorry about I offend you... How many times I need to say it ?
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 03:57pm.

Feb 02 2009 03:25pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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They start to weep even more when I say something against them


why so surprised. thats life. or... 'reality' as you like to call everything. except this one is unavoidable so you cant just ignore it.

anyway its not the things you say, but how, in what way and in what context you say them.
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Feb 02 2009 01:59pm

Maher
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 Maher

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Also about that Communism topic... Still I don't know if people have tried communism for real...
I hope you're not serious :p


nah... I still keep my pointview on the subject... But after "healthy" debate, Amik is still seeing that subject from totally different pointview... and that's her reality :)

and that's about respect what I want to show towards her... Because She obviously respect our pointviews... ?

But yeah all in all I like from the people... Who rather think than judge people *nods*

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To Amik

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What good is philosophy without debate? Unless you had kept your wisdom to yourself, people will provide opposition to your views. No matter how you cut it, there are going to be those that think differently than you. Even if you do not debate, those that agree with you will debate with those that do not agree with you. It is inevitable, but ultimately required if you wish to enhance your own views.

As many people who debate will realize, you cannot win on logic alone. Abortion and stem cell research is an excellent example of this.


The Question is about how to keep own reality... But others are rather to just prove my opinions wrong :P and doesn't think it as It would be a option... But yeah like I said when people are trying to prove me wrong... Then I think I'm just strong personality, who others can't twist... and they start to see me as selfish and proud bastard...

tsk tsk... those silly people... :D

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What makes it more silly... They start to weep even more when I say something against them :D

guh that's just about well silly... While you should answer... That's my reality like it or dump it :P

But once again... those who are strong personalities are saying like I just stated...

Those people are what I like! *nods*
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This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 02 2009 02:13pm.

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