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Maher - Jedi Knight  |
Because It is, indeed, a neat thing to share thoughts with each others about everything...
So This topic is going to be about everything and only about everything... Yeah you can put on some crazy stuff if you are feeling like that way, but so that nobody will get offended... Let the thoughts flow in! and lets try to found reason for everything! So what you think about this topic, about your life and about everything...? If you don't find anything major, instead of try something minor and see how It will develop... b00m! People go and think! EDIT: Due to some recent happenings on this topic... It made me to create first rules 
RULES: 1. Please don't diss the philosophy 2. If you don't like it, leave it! 3. If you like it, you post on it! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This post was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 10:15pm. |
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Kaelis - On Leave 
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First of 2009 - Into the abyss it goes Bye Bye 
closed by request of the creator _______________ Padawan of Roan Belouve, brother to Acura, Proud to be part of the Belouve Dynasty, Proud Owner of Jarhok's 430th comment, Dash Starlights 1600th comment, Saz's 5000th comment and Alex D'Kanas 2100 comment This comment was edited by Kaelis on Feb 02 2009 08:45pm. |
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ZantuS - Student 
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(a_man_of_logic&science + a_man_who_doesnt_believe_in_logic) x argument = chaos _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: no. Just no.
It is all there... Like I said you truly are incorruptable... But now I want to play more with my sandbox mates! Free World and Comrade Masta... 
How about your morality, ethics ? like Zantus did partly open this discussion... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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and I see you allready struggling at it
Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
i fail to see difference between these phrases and 'you dont understand anything' statement you said before lol Twas the point. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: and I see you allready struggling at it
Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
i fail to see difference between these phrases and 'you dont understand anything' statement you said before lol when you are out of arguments youll just throw a simmilar phrase to those to escape further discussion. my 2 evil cents. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend  I'm struggling how exactly? Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
GG!  no. Just no. Fact is, im yet to experience anything that is entirely un-explainable. Thus im a man of science and logic. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend I'm struggling how exactly? Quote: im not even gonna start on that one.
GG! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend I'm struggling how exactly? _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: You don't believe in logic?Right..
eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
Like nobody can be totally logical... and I see you allready struggling at it... So why to bother... my dear friend _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. eh... God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything 
I'm atheist, did you know ? and I don't believe in logic, because discussing and working with people... It asks more creativy than logic
Because humans are creative beings... I need to treat them like that way... 6 Billion different kind of People and my creativy is only over 9000! You don't believe in logic?Right.. im not even gonna start on that one. The laws of physics can be applied to anything, nothing can 'not be explained.' some things are yet to be explained, sure, but the laws of science, are as far as we know, a universal medium. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: Don't you worry, Imperialists. Revolutionary cells are stocking up on the latest weaponry and ammunition that you, my dear Capitalists, have sold them, for which i thank you sincerely. I'm sure that, once we decide to hang you, you'll sell us the ropes as well.
We sell you outdated weaponry! You will have to reverse engineer the good stuff like the spy planes we accidentally crashed near your nuclear facilities. Also, you will need the rope to tether the long lines that are common place in communist states! _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Quote: Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. eh... God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything
I'm atheist, did you know ? and I don't believe in logic, because discussing and working with people... It asks more creativy than logic
Because humans are creative beings... I need to treat them like that way... 6 Billion different kind of People and my creativy is only over 9000! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Firstly, that was a pointless comment.
secondly no, i haven't said anything is a fact, nor that anything is wrong. Im arguing the point. I dont believe in any 'higher power', not by any conventional means. Apart from the spaghetti monster. Nope It wasn't pointless comment as It enlightened a lot to me
As in what did you believe... Well yeah... About that cheese ? Cheddar, maybe ? Cheddar, mild. Im a fan of science, proven or other-wise. I'd rather reason with logic than with a higher power which has yet to do anything or show 'it' exists. L _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: Firstly, that was a pointless comment.
secondly no, i haven't said anything is a fact, nor that anything is wrong. Im arguing the point. I dont believe in any 'higher power', not by any conventional means. Apart from the spaghetti monster. Nope It wasn't pointless comment as It enlightened a lot to me
As in what did you believe... Well yeah... About that cheese ? Cheddar, maybe ? _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Firstly, that was a pointless comment. (UN.)
secondly no, i haven't said anything is a fact, nor that anything is wrong. Im arguing the point. I dont believe in any 'higher power', not by any conventional means. Apart from the spaghetti monster. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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ZantuS - Student
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Oh come on...that was just pointless! How can you find anything arguable in what Janitor said? You say someone knows about the time before the bigbangbang? _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" This comment was edited by ZantuS on Feb 01 2009 06:35pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: Quote: Ask a physicist what was before the big bang, you'll usually get the ''Don't ask that question.'' evolution wasn't starting before the big bang. Also.. the big bang is not.. improving? The universe is expanding, thats it. Humanity s on some big rock at the outer edges of a galaxy.
nobod knows what was previous to the big bang. Most physicists wont delve into it on a fully scientific basis, it will be philosophical. hence hawking saying that. It could just as easily be a spaghetti monster backflipping around the empty space in which the universe would presumably expand into. yeh and you are coming to philosophy topic... Which is about everything... and you are trying to state facts as they are facts ? Anything is debatable... EDIT: I rather use term... My personal opinion... and note everything on this topic is about my personal opinion... Even if I'm saying ''fact'' _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 06:35pm. |
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Quote: "cheese/best JEDI EVA"-kind of comments are not good for this topic
cheese is important. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Cuth, could you please define the term "convoluted argument"? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Quote: phew... you answered... so I don't need to edit my reply... Which could make It even more confusing... thanks!
Quote: Ask a physicist what was before the big bang, you'll usually get the ''Don't ask that question.'' evolution wasn't starting before the big bang. Also.. the big bang is not.. improving? The universe is expanding, thats it. Humanity s on some big rock at the outer edges of a galaxy.
eh well ? I have actually been discussing with physicist "professors"(if title means anything to you) about it... Most likely the answer wasn't ''Don't ask about it'' but yeah their answer weren't that important... After all I have gotten best answer from the book... Don't know english translation for it... but It was Stephen Hawkins' book... "Anything what was behind big bang... It is totally in god's hands"
Don't know if I translated it right way
But that's how I see that thing at the moment... EDIT: Quote: I told you so.
Cuth stay on the topic nobod knows what was previous to the big bang. Most physicists wont delve into it on a fully scientific basis, it will be philosophical. hence hawking saying that. It could just as easily be a spaghetti monster backflipping around the empty space in which the universe would presumably expand into. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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phew... you answered... so I don't need to edit my reply... Which could make It even more confusing... thanks!
Quote: Ask a physicist what was before the big bang, you'll usually get the ''Don't ask that question.'' evolution wasn't starting before the big bang. Also.. the big bang is not.. improving? The universe is expanding, thats it. Humanity s on some big rock at the outer edges of a galaxy.
eh well ? I have actually been discussing with physicist "professors"(if title means anything to you) about it... Most likely the answer wasn't ''Don't ask about it'' but yeah their answer weren't that important... After all I have gotten best answer from the book... Don't know english translation for it... but It was Stephen Hawkins' book... "Anything what was behind big bang... It is totally in god's hands"
Don't know if I translated it right way
But that's how I see that thing at the moment... EDIT: Quote: I told you so.
Cuth stay on the topic _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 06:25pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Quote: I told you so.
we're not flaming. he hasn't said ''You don't understand'' yet. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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I told you so. _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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life its self gives its self meaning? and to have the meaning you need life?
*First "Wise Words" Attack* A Cop ? For you It might sound like that, I'm not wondering
*End of "Wise Words" Attack* But yeah for me I'm living is allready enough to me... But It would be pretty dull just sit on the ground and watch to the emptiness; at that I would probaly fail... But that's why I'm me and others are they... what do you mean exactly. 'you're not wondering'. Because it IS a cop, its just looping. Secondly, simply because there's no defined meaning we know of doesent mean we just sit on our asses and watch the world go by. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: life its self gives its self meaning? and to have the meaning you need life?
*First "Wise Words" Attack* A Cop ? For you It might sound like that, I'm not wondering
*End of "Wise Words" Attack* But yeah for me I'm living is allready enough to me... But It would be pretty dull just sit on the ground and watch to the emptiness; at that I would probaly fail... But that's why I'm me and others are they... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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ZantuS - Student
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I was looking something more deep for the meaning but ok...
And I wouldn't necessarily call it improvement, more like changing, since improvement means good change. Who's to say if it's good or bad? Who's to say about anything being good or bad? That takes me to another subject: ethics! Are there any moral acts that can be considered bad/evil under all circumstances? Is there bad/evil? For example if in some country a funeral would include chopping the dead in pieces and eating them, would it be bad/evil? We might think of it as bad/evil cause of our habits, but who are we to say? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism What do you think? Damn I better watch it...my English draws some limits, better not try to go too deep _______________ Happiness is the ability to say "So what?" This comment was edited by ZantuS on Feb 01 2009 06:05pm. |
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