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Maher - Jedi Knight  |
Because It is, indeed, a neat thing to share thoughts with each others about everything...
So This topic is going to be about everything and only about everything... Yeah you can put on some crazy stuff if you are feeling like that way, but so that nobody will get offended... Let the thoughts flow in! and lets try to found reason for everything! So what you think about this topic, about your life and about everything...? If you don't find anything major, instead of try something minor and see how It will develop... b00m! People go and think! EDIT: Due to some recent happenings on this topic... It made me to create first rules 
RULES: 1. Please don't diss the philosophy 2. If you don't like it, leave it! 3. If you like it, you post on it! _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This post was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 10:15pm. |
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Kaelis - On Leave 
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Clink (Shiny New Padlock)
First of 2009 - Into the abyss it goes Bye Bye 
closed by request of the creator _______________ Padawan of Roan Belouve, brother to Acura, Proud to be part of the Belouve Dynasty, Proud Owner of Jarhok's 430th comment, Dash Starlights 1600th comment, Saz's 5000th comment and Alex D'Kanas 2100 comment This comment was edited by Kaelis on Feb 02 2009 08:45pm. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student 
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Quote: Keeps the Capitalists busy so we can make final preparations for our global revolution.
Before you ask, i'm part of the decoy. We are also preparing a global revolution! It will be called WW4. It will be fought with nuclear sticks and antimatter stones. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Komence - Student 
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well personalllllllllllllyyyyyyy, if i want to learn something important about myself, i don't seek inner-knowledge at thejediacademy.net hehehe. but anyway, i believe i shall take my leave of this conversation. if anybody wants to argue about why america is the best BRING IT |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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and because people are thinking I'm strong personality then I think I'm winning something >_>
believe what you will, but for starters i can say... think again. youll figure everything else yourself lol Saz... Come on... Why so serious ? EDIT: Quote: seeing how most of the people posting on these forums just don't have the means to "disguise their arguments in a veil of literary mastery", simply because their first language isn't english.
Also very good point! <3 and I'm the top hat at this... 
My reason why I created this topic is indeed, to see how people are reacting each others... and what makes it better than good and free conversation of philosophy... I mean... This is good opportunity to learn about something yourself and others and everything
and that's all what philosophy is about... But It doesn't work if you don't put some pressure on it at first 
guh people gets annoyed far too easily... and over the internet... me included... That's something what everybody should think about... ? _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 09:21pm. |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Keeps the Capitalists busy so we can make final preparations for our global revolution.
Before you ask, i'm part of the decoy. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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You all respond to this thread faster than we execute communist heretics. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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Quote: Sure.
I did, and that's why i was asking. I couldn't understand why you had a problem with "complex arguments", and apparently you don't. What you understand under a "convoluted argument" is something i dislike as well, but haven't yet witnessed any instances of it here, and indeed, i highly doubt that i will, seeing how most of the people posting on these forums just don't have the means to "disguise their arguments in a veil of literary mastery", simply because their first language isn't english.
If you were to look up convoluted up in the Oxford Dictionary it would read:- (of an argument or story) very complex. 2. folded or twisted in a complex way. Argument:- a heated exchange of conflicting views. 2. a set of reasons in support of something. Quote: pr0fits will turn into the hulk, but will be red,white and blue instead of green. And will nuke the UN Headquarters! Oh wait, that's in NY - good riddance, i guess. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Lirael - Jedi Council 
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Quote: In all honesty I don’t care much for philosophy, it’s very unfocused methodology and circular arguments I find no need for.
If we are talking unfocusedly and circularly, which is probably the case, then we aren't talking philosophy. Please don't diss the subject  it gets far too much bad press already by those who don't understand it _______________ I can write my name with my sparkler. My sparkler > your lightsabre |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: and because people are thinking I'm strong personality then I think I'm winning something >_>
believe what you will, but for starters i can say... think again. youll figure everything else yourself lol _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Alex Dkana - Staff 
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Quote: pr0fits will turn into the hulk, but will be red,white and blue instead of green.
With a load of glitter representing stars all over him as well?
Quote: i will rampage my way across the dictatorships of countries such as switzerland, london and europe and destroy the communists residing in the horrendous land known as canada. justice shall be mine.
As the dictator of London I say: Bring on your thousands, one at a time or all in a rush. I don't give a damn!  _______________ To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield | Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken | Rhaiko D'kana - SWTOR EU Guild Co-Founder | Is it what the teacher, teaches? Or what the student learns? A Dkana This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Feb 01 2009 09:00pm. |
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Komence - Student
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i will rampage my way across the dictatorships of countries such as switzerland, london and europe and destroy the communists residing in the horrendous land known as canada. justice shall be mine.
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Augusta_Mintaka - Student
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pr0fits will turn into the hulk, but will be red,white and blue instead of green. _______________ "Deos fortioribus adesse." |
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Maher - Jedi Knight 
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Thank god I allready thought... ''honoes, Komence too ? ''... lol _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Komence - Student 
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fueled? YEAH, I AM ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS.
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Fair enough ? But why you are so fueled my friend...
I'm only one part of this topic... and I'm bringing up my opinions ? and because people are thinking I'm strong personality then I think I'm winning something >_> _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Komence - Student
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oh, so in other words rather than actually contributing anything based on your personal opinion you're going to offer opinions that you don't fully believe in order to stir up pointless discussion? |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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You also forget this...
Quote: eh It is more like I don't want to be total at any subject
EDIT: Quote: oh, and it's not really fair to ask Cuthalion to stay off this topic. he was asked a question by Masta and he answered it.
eh ? Philosophy is what philosophy is ? It is happening everyday _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 08:46pm. |
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Komence - Student
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WELL cuthalion, i've hardly seen literary mastery in this topic!
to maher, Quote: Sazabi I did say... I don't believe totally in logic ?
Quote: and I don't believe in logic,
oh, and it's not really fair to ask Cuthalion to stay off this topic. he was asked a question by Masta and he answered it. This comment was edited by Komence on Feb 01 2009 08:44pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Quote: In all honesty I don’t care much for philosophy, it’s very unfocused methodology and circular arguments I find no need for.
Lay-mans term:- To airy – fairy. I only deal in fact. Stay off this topic then ? _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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Cuthalion - Padawan 
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Quote: Cuth, could you please define the term "convoluted argument"?
Sure. If you were to look up convoluted up in the Oxford Dictionary it would read:- (of an argument or story) very complex. 2. folded or twisted in a complex way. Argument:- a heated exchange of conflicting views. 2. a set of reasons in support of something. By “convoluted argument” I mean the unnecessary use of ambiguous words to try and compound upon the reader that the argument put for by yourself is indeed the correct one, and thus by using such wording is a brief attempt to confuse the reader and disguise ones argument in a veil of literary mastery, instead of being able to convey ones argument in ‘lay-mans’ terms. In all honesty I don’t care much for philosophy, it’s very unfocused methodology and circular arguments I find no need for. Lay-mans term:- To airy – fairy. I only deal in fact. Peace and love folks _______________ <MaherSenatu> guh... you are just... I'll keep sure that your kind of people will never be knights... <MaherSenatu> That's my mission... Master to Kain Sol This comment was edited by Cuthalion on Feb 01 2009 08:30pm. |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Like I said you truly are incorruptable...
isnt corruption a bad thing? and since you are speaking about illogical things dont you mean that everything you say isnt really good? :] Quote: I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly...
you 'grounded your argument' which means you used logic. and yes it didnt work thus your point about logic not working is right
well... atleast in your case. and if this sounds illogical to you... that means illogic things dont work either
Quote: I'm not saying, I'm the wise... cheese, though, is. Sazabi I did say... I don't believe totally in logic ? Quote: Wittgenstein would have been proud.
Lirael would you mind to explain... Who was this gentleman ? Because I don't know... and I don't like to be 'google' cheap...
At the moment I'm basing my arguments totally for different kind thesis of east religions _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber This comment was edited by Maher on Feb 01 2009 08:30pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Like I said you truly are incorruptable...
isnt corruption a bad thing? and since you are speaking about illogical things dont you mean that everything you say isnt really good? :] Quote: I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly...
you 'grounded your argument' which means you used logic. and yes it didnt work thus your point about logic not working is right
well... atleast in your case. and if this sounds illogical to you... that means illogic things dont work either
Quote: I'm not saying, I'm the wise... cheese, though, is. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Feb 01 2009 07:26pm. |
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Lirael - Jedi Council 
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Maher,
I define 42 and any other natural number by set theory. Furthermore I congratulate on your clarity: Quote: You are existing allready... That's your true meaning...
Quote: Meaning of life is that It exists...
Wittgenstein would have been proud. Quote: before the big bang’
If we could ever acquire information about before the big bang, it would be scrambled beyond recognition. Quote: God is just a definition or a value for something, when physics don't explain everything’
A God of the gaps eh? I know many a theist that would be irate at being so misrepresented Janitor, Quote: The laws of physics can be applied to anything, nothing can 'not be explained.' some things are yet to be explained, sure, but the laws of science, are as far as we know, a universal medium
Physics can be applied to any empirical thing. Its highly probable that only physical things exist. Unfortunately it cannot be applied to metaphysical or immaterial, like our beloved flying spaghetti monster – hence I have witnessed many long discussions with CU members who just don’t comprehend the concept of circularity or external justification. Gotta love those language games <3 _______________ I can write my name with my sparkler. My sparkler > your lightsabre |
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Cydon - Student 
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Maher stops for today, because he is coming to play MBII with me! |
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Maher - Jedi Knight
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Lets just move along, because this debate of mine and Qin isn't leading to anywhere...
and haha! Zantus is right
Also SaZ... I did ground my argument why logic doesn't work perfectly... Human's logic always fails one way or another
I'm not saying, I'm the wise... I'm more like making people to think again
So people! Ethics is good subject to move along... _______________ Still here | My Lightsaber |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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How do you mean incorruptable. Because im all for debates. /reads zantus artice. _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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