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TES V: Skyrim - *No Spoilers Please*
Jan 21 2011 05:57pm

Mic Den Octela
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Mic Den Octela
Cause you know you lurve it!

New info as and when it comes out.

So far the release is 11.11.11 which is easy enough to remember and approx 295 days from now.

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Four French dudes got 2 and a half hours each on a 3 month old build. Check out the roughly translated impressions here.

Skyrim is the homeland of the Nords, the original home of man. As far as I know the game is set around the death of the king which happens at the start of the game. I imagine very much like the death of the Emperor in Oblivion (Skyrim takes place around 200 years after the events of TES IV).

You take the role of the last of the Dovahkiin, or Dragon Born, and its up to you to deal with a civil war and some sick dragon thing.

Go here for more info: Link


SO! I had an idea.

How about all of us looking forward to Skyrim get together on TeamSpeak on Nov. 11th? We can chat, have a laugh and discuss our experiences as we play. Anyone wanting to play in silent for a bit is welcome to drop in and out at their leisure. I think it'd be a great excuse to chat with each other again! :D



Well, Skype didn't happen as I was busy that night. Hope everyone's enjoying Skyrim as much as I am. Can I please ask that nobody gives away any spoilers in this topic, please. Be fair to your kinsmen. :P
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This post was edited by Mic Den Octela on Nov 11 2011 03:51pm.

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Nov 21 2011 01:42am

SaZ
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 SaZ

Alex, im playing my second char, a warrior and id say out of all magic schools the only benefitial ones for warriors are:

restoration - healing, also the high level perk that allows you to cheat death should be great. not to mention perk that makes all healing spells restore stamina.
conjuration - if you are into summoners, bound weapons etc
alteration - magic resist and atronach defense. yes please.

other perks that are a must for sword and board characters is ofcourse the left side of blocking skill perks. my friend said that he kinda sweeped 5 enemes off the cliff with one shield charge. while that might be annoying considering the long journey to pick up the loot, but... yea..
also the block-slow mo perk is great. would benefit dual wield so much... too bad they cant block lol.
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The Hall of Valor is amazing, that's all I wanted to say.

hah yeah. tho i must say... many areas in the world are really good looking. considering how many people whined about game not using dx11 etc, this game kicks them in the nuts hard. great looking engine.
personally my favorite areas in the game are:
throat of the world
south east area towards riften
areas surrounding helgen
perma-blizzard surroundings of winterhold
and ofcourse the whole ending area
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It's up to the player if he wants to do that or not imo.

that is true.
however the majority of players that i discussed about skyrim were using the melee fighter builds. since they are a bit into minmaxing in rpgs... you can see where this is going.
the problem i have with those people is that they call the game easy while going that TES exploity path that you talked about yourself.

just, because the game allows you to become godlike with 100% chameleon in morrowind and oblivion that doesnt mean its not cheating and that you should do it. many people nowadays dont know the meaning of that word anymore. lol
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 21 2011 01:56am.

Nov 20 2011 11:27pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

This dragon slaying is a lark isn't it? The game wasn't impressed with my initial tactics however, it frowned upon my attempt to jump on the dragons back from half way up a tower. Ow.

Went with my High Elf idea, which (after catching up on recent history in some of the books) seems a much more interesting race to play as thesedays anyway.

Signed up with the Companions too, much better than the Fighters Guild so far but then they do fit the Nord culture and whatnot.

Focusing on one handed swordplay and heavy armor and still making up my mind what other skills to emphasise. I'm presuming there is a similarity to the role the major skills of old played and that taking perks in a ranged skill and a healing skill as well as combat and defence would be beneficial?

Any recommendations perk wise for an out and out fighter character? Not against using some magic but not planning on using it much, despite my choice of race.
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Nov 20 2011 10:51pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

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The Hall of Valor is amazing, that's all I wanted to say.
All of it is amazing. ALL OF IT.


The Hall of Valor stands out as the most amazing place I have seen in the game so far. A good mod idea! Go to the Hall of Valor when you die!
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Nov 20 2011 07:06pm

Masta
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 Masta

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The Hall of Valor is amazing, that's all I wanted to say.
All of it is amazing. ALL OF IT.

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smithing, enchanting 100 and also full gear with enchanting, smithing increasing effects. you can find ridiculous items on google and youtube. basically you can craft better items than you can get from quests and dungeon loot. if that fact alone isnt questionable then items being several (if not more times) times better surely is.

the bad thing is that people who notice that making iron daggers is the best way to level your smithing... well they do that as early as first 2 hours of the game.
That is fair enough, but such funky uses of the game mechanics were known since morrowind, where you could exploit the alchemy mechanic to make you a god a few minutes into the game. It's up to the player if he wants to do that or not imo.

EDIT: Can't wait for mods to PCify the game properly and fix all the issues. Bethesda be damned.

EDIT2: I've heard that a bunch of smart builds make the game really easy though, even without playing the system. That is unfortunate and shows that the game isn't really balanced all that well. Mods might fix this.
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This comment was edited by Masta on Nov 20 2011 07:12pm.

Nov 20 2011 06:40pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

The Hall of Valor is amazing, that's all I wanted to say.
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Nov 20 2011 04:36pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

smithing, enchanting 100 and also full gear with enchanting, smithing increasing effects. you can find ridiculous items on google and youtube. basically you can craft better items than you can get from quests and dungeon loot. if that fact alone isnt questionable then items being several (if not more times) times better surely is.

the bad thing is that people who notice that making iron daggers is the best way to level your smithing... well they do that as early as first 2 hours of the game.

as for storylines i really recommend thieves and dark brotherhood. the later is ofcourse about stuff that youd expect. thieves guild however... not exactly.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 20 2011 04:39pm.

Nov 20 2011 04:08pm

Masta
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 Masta

I think the main quest was absolutely amazing. It was, in fact, one of the best gaming experience that I've had in a very very long time. I only did the companions questline next to it, which I really enjoyed as well, partially because the companions are culturally and ideologically right up my alley.

As for smithing making the game too easy, I really don't know about that. I went for a pure 2H warrior build, maxed out smithing towards the end (got a full suit of daedric armour plus a greatsword half-way through the main quest, fully upgraded) and felt quite challenged at times, especially towards the end and against certain dragons. Although I guess you meant going for an enchanting/smithing combination, where you make ridiculously powerful gear with enchantments. I've not tried that yet, but I can see why it might make the game too easy.
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Nov 20 2011 04:44am

SaZ
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 SaZ

hmmm finished thieves guild, was a little... different from what i expected from a thieves guild atleast compared to last two games lol.

anyway id say:
dark brotherhood> main quest> thieves guild> mages guild.
not gonna go with companions with this char, but from the looks of it, mages guild is seriously the weakest story.

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from peoples opinions about the game id say everyone who used enchanting and smithing said the game was too easy. i dont see how it wouldnt be when you can make bows that deal 900 dmg per hit. it doesnt take a genius to realise thats completely overpowered and that you shouldnt use that if you want a normal game experience.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 20 2011 02:58pm.

Nov 19 2011 07:57pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I gave Lydia a staff of fire and a staff of shock, she dual wielded them and went on a rampage.
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Nov 19 2011 02:37pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

after i finish thieves guild with my mage assassin ill make a new char.

id say mage completely misses the whole 'loot game' since to increase your power all you can do is find unique artifacts or enchant your items to give them some defensive or support abilities. staves are pretty much useless as well aside from a few unique ones. so yeah... you cant increase your damage. not that the damage is low, but i really miss out a huge part of the game - looting. i actually only collect low weight high value items to sell them later. thats all.

so im planning on 2handed weapon wielding melee guy. either orc or breton. probably breton lol.
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Nov 19 2011 02:11am

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

Finally have Skyrim installed. :D Only played through the intro so far though, kinda blows Oblivion out of the water from the off however.
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Nov 18 2011 06:28pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Imperial Soldiers don't recognize you as Legate either.

I believe the developers had fun with the quest A Night to Remember
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Nov 18 2011 03:52pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

finished main story.
it was pretty good.
however... after that some main figures didnt even recognise my heroism QQ
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Nov 17 2011 09:41pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Mages don't really live exciting lives in the TES universe. You would think people who could fire out lightning bolts from their hands and reanimate chickens would make the Mage's Guild the Party Guild.

I spent my last few hours decorating Proudspire with the heavy Dwarven metal pieces, collections of weapons I like looking at, gems and armor pieces. I wish they did let you put a few more books in the shelves :(

I hope Solstheim is added in a future expansion
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Nov 17 2011 11:56am

SaZ
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 SaZ

heard a rumor thieves guild is pretty good in this TES game.
only did the starters quest tho.

as for mages guild... well it was better than in oblivion, but i fear that it suffered from same flaws. searching for artifacts in dungeons filled with undead. atleast you didnt have to clear 100 dungeons filled with necromancers... and undead.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 17 2011 11:58am.

Nov 17 2011 03:07am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Dark Brotherhood is the most popular guild in general
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Nov 17 2011 01:12am

SaZ
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 SaZ

try fire atronach and dualwield basic fire spells.
if you got stagger perk its freewin. then again i dont play master diff.

anyway slight spoiler: mages guild storyline is 2x shorter than dark brotherhood. kinda surprised.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 17 2011 01:12am.

Nov 17 2011 12:42am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I switched the difficulty to master and the trolls are the enemies that tend to be most trouble for me. I try fire, but I don't know high level destruction spells so it doesn't do the trick fast enough.
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Nov 16 2011 11:11pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

just stagger them with fire damage.

anyway anyone tried level 3 versions of elemental fury, slow time and whirlwind spirit?
im curious what they do when mastered.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 17 2011 12:05am.

Nov 16 2011 11:07pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Frost trolls are harder to kill than dragons :(
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Nov 16 2011 10:43pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

sneak archery blade and all kinds of magic kinda makes my character versatile for most situations.
the only things that kill me are those insane lightning dmg casters (since the projectile flies too fast to dodge) or powerful archers (same as lightning) like dwemer sphere master.

at the beginning of the game i usually shot an arrow or two and then switched to spell + blade. summoned fire atronach and then blasted with firebolts with occasional dagger attacks.
now however it depends on enemies resistances. armored dudes die fast to all kinds of magic (some are very resistant to some type tho), while some can be taken out with bow.

more or less this means pretty much zero contact with enemy.

as far as my race choice... it pretty much only helps in brawls lol.
night eye is pretty much useless spell in skyrim, unlike oblivion where i kinda used it permanently at some times. ofcourse thats a good thing since watching the whole games beauty in blue color at all times got old pretty quick.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 16 2011 10:45pm.

Nov 16 2011 07:23pm

Kainz00r
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 Kainz00r

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Playing a high elf, full mage character myself. Thoroughly enjoying Skyrim so far.


How are you faring with the full mage character? I tried it off the bat, and I was running out of magic quickly. Even with robes on it seemed like magic regenerates pretty slow.


I used a chest piece which offers -15% mana cost on all spells used, +50 magicka and 100% extra mana regeneration as well as a mask with 100% extra mana regeneration on it. This helped, but yes, I did run out of mana very quickly - turns out it's much, much more beneficial to stack '-% cost on X school of magic', i.e. destruction usually.

For mana efficiency, I would dual cast the '2nd tier' spells such as firebolt. This also staggered my opponents, giving my combat a rhythm as well as offering reasonably sustainable DPS. I also put every single point into Magicka, except for four which went into health.

Edit: I've rerolled though as a Breton because they're pretty manly when it comes to taking magic damage in the face, plus I like being human (lolracist). I also wanted to start over with more focus on melee and heavy armour, as it looks cool and I'm all about aesthetics. You'll see what I mean when you get Morokei and a certain set of robes.
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This comment was edited by Kainz00r on Nov 16 2011 07:25pm.

Nov 16 2011 05:29pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

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Playing a high elf, full mage character myself. Thoroughly enjoying Skyrim so far.


How are you faring with the full mage character? I tried it off the bat, and I was running out of magic quickly. Even with robes on it seemed like magic regenerates pretty slow.


I had that issue too, so I switched to sneak archery and it's fun but mike has convInced me sword and shield badassery
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Nov 16 2011 05:29pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

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Playing a high elf, full mage character myself. Thoroughly enjoying Skyrim so far.


How are you faring with the full mage character? I tried it off the bat, and I was running out of magic quickly. Even with robes on it seemed like magic regenerates pretty slow.


I had that issue too, so I switched to sneak archery and it's fun but mike has conv
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Nov 16 2011 04:47pm

Tallepyon
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 Tallepyon

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Playing a high elf, full mage character myself. Thoroughly enjoying Skyrim so far.


How are you faring with the full mage character? I tried it off the bat, and I was running out of magic quickly. Even with robes on it seemed like magic regenerates pretty slow.

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