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TES V: Skyrim - *No Spoilers Please*
Jan 21 2011 05:57pm

Mic Den Octela
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Mic Den Octela
Cause you know you lurve it!

New info as and when it comes out.

So far the release is 11.11.11 which is easy enough to remember and approx 295 days from now.

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Four French dudes got 2 and a half hours each on a 3 month old build. Check out the roughly translated impressions here.

Skyrim is the homeland of the Nords, the original home of man. As far as I know the game is set around the death of the king which happens at the start of the game. I imagine very much like the death of the Emperor in Oblivion (Skyrim takes place around 200 years after the events of TES IV).

You take the role of the last of the Dovahkiin, or Dragon Born, and its up to you to deal with a civil war and some sick dragon thing.

Go here for more info: Link


SO! I had an idea.

How about all of us looking forward to Skyrim get together on TeamSpeak on Nov. 11th? We can chat, have a laugh and discuss our experiences as we play. Anyone wanting to play in silent for a bit is welcome to drop in and out at their leisure. I think it'd be a great excuse to chat with each other again! :D



Well, Skype didn't happen as I was busy that night. Hope everyone's enjoying Skyrim as much as I am. Can I please ask that nobody gives away any spoilers in this topic, please. Be fair to your kinsmen. :P
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This post was edited by Mic Den Octela on Nov 11 2011 03:51pm.

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Nov 10 2011 04:56pm

planK
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 planK

OMG ITS OUT TOMORROWZ

Nov 09 2011 01:07pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

im pretty sure most of that release date patch is to avoid any pre-release messin around with the files.
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Nov 09 2011 09:12am

MrDJSilva
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 MrDJSilva

HELL YER IM IN :DD

Nov 08 2011 11:54pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

Well, at least that will mean some of the inevitable bugs will be fixed for release. :)

Not sure I'll be able to join you afterall by the way. New PC has still not been dispatched so there is a good chance that even though it should be within the next two days that it won't arrive in time for Friday. :(
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Nov 08 2011 09:50pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

Apparently Skyrim is getting a day one release patch.

That means Skyrim will be v1.1 on 11/11/11.
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Nov 07 2011 07:26pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

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Against Dragons, I think archery plays a very important role. From what I've seen, you can hide from dragons for short moments while they are circling around the area. That would allow you to sneak shots into them, whittle them down and play peek-a-boo. I think it shouldn't be a problem, but requires the player to have a lot of patience.


Yeah, between the new archery, everyone having some degree of magical talent (as usual), and most importantly the dragon shouts I don't think any build will find taking down dragons impossible.

...Some may find it a lot trickier than others however. :p
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Nov 07 2011 12:38pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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also regarding playing stealth character as the first playthrough... i think its the best way.
you still dont know enemies, their awareness, the locations, monster density etc. its a thrill.
after playing as berserker... you would kinda know what to expect and wouldnt sneak through the whole forest like a dumbass.
this wouldnt be the case other way around - knowledge of whats ahead doesnt concern you - youll bash all their skulls, thats why you are playing warrior after all.
That's actually a good point that I partially disagree with.

Stealh characters tend to be more vulnerable in combat (especially at the start), relying on stealth, speed, traps, archery and therelike, which would make initial encounters more risky. Combined with the uncertainty of a first playthrough, I can see where the appeal might be in such an approach.

I disagree in that you seem to underestimate the difficulty of playing the other classes. There is always room for failure, no matter what build you pick - otherwise the game would be much too easy in general. I died many, many times in Oblivion on my later playthroughs on normal, despite being an experienced warrior. The equipment is a pretty big factor, and it's tricky to find good stuff that could give you somesort of early headstart.

In the end, I think all of the approaches have value and it remains mostly a matter of personal taste.


i dont really think that playing a warrior is easier. as you said you need good equipment, while equipment for stealthy character actually plays a lesser role. its funny, because getting equipment as a thief is much easier.
i guess my point was that the absence of uncertainty factor on the second playthrough hurts stealthy characters more. choosing how to play your first character can mean more than most people think, especially since a lot of people (myself included) say that they will play the game many times, but drop the game halfway on their second playthwrough.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 07 2011 12:48pm.

Nov 06 2011 06:22pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Against Dragons, I think archery plays a very important role. From what I've seen, you can hide from dragons for short moments while they are circling around the area. That would allow you to sneak shots into them, whittle them down and play peek-a-boo. I think it shouldn't be a problem, but requires the player to have a lot of patience.
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Nov 06 2011 02:03pm

Masta
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 Masta

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also regarding playing stealth character as the first playthrough... i think its the best way.
you still dont know enemies, their awareness, the locations, monster density etc. its a thrill.
after playing as berserker... you would kinda know what to expect and wouldnt sneak through the whole forest like a dumbass.
this wouldnt be the case other way around - knowledge of whats ahead doesnt concern you - youll bash all their skulls, thats why you are playing warrior after all.
That's actually a good point that I partially disagree with.

Stealh characters tend to be more vulnerable in combat (especially at the start), relying on stealth, speed, traps, archery and therelike, which would make initial encounters more risky. Combined with the uncertainty of a first playthrough, I can see where the appeal might be in such an approach.

I disagree in that you seem to underestimate the difficulty of playing the other classes. There is always room for failure, no matter what build you pick - otherwise the game would be much too easy in general. I died many, many times in Oblivion on my later playthroughs on normal, despite being an experienced warrior. The equipment is a pretty big factor, and it's tricky to find good stuff that could give you somesort of early headstart.

In the end, I think all of the approaches have value and it remains mostly a matter of personal taste.
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Nov 06 2011 07:33am

SaZ
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 SaZ

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yeah im just wondering if its gonna be possible to do anything silently.

ofcourse id imagine there might be a dragon sleeping in a cave, but.. im not so sure.

anyway those vids are being removed. i dont think we actually need them anymore.


Archery is vastly improved and it looks like enemies wont detect you as easily after the first arrow. I think stealth will have a strong presence.


yeah im just saying that after seeing those dragon fights videos its kinda hard to believe that stealth is a viable way lol.
but we shall see. also in b4 someone makes a mod with dragon spawn rate as high as cliffracer in morrowind.

also regarding playing stealth character as the first playthrough... i think its the best way.
you still dont know enemies, their awareness, the locations, monster density etc. its a thrill.
after playing as berserker... you would kinda know what to expect and wouldnt sneak through the whole forest like a dumbass.
this wouldnt be the case other way around - knowledge of whats ahead doesnt concern you - youll bash all their skulls, thats why you are playing warrior after all.

just a few thoughts.

i tend to be a little tense even in non-horror games lol, so thats why im always playing stealth - i dont want to be seen before i see them :D
and if thats one scary rat ill just avoid it completely.
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Something has lured me over to this title, i just ordered it.. I hated Oblivion but alas we shall see haha

heh i kinda enjoyed oblivion, but it wasnt really that good in some places. especially mages and fighters guilds quests.
i mean they kinda made it obvious that in fighters guild they think you are a moron.
the game was worth playing just for some questlines and dark brotherhood quests tho.

as far as i get it they will improve skyrim in ways that most people modded their oblivion.
im guessing deadly reflex is one of those mods.
which makes game completely awesome by default.
when i try to imagine a good fighting system, this phrase comes into mind:
'impale him, sareph'.
not sure if you guys will get it.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 06 2011 07:44am.

Nov 05 2011 09:33pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

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yeah im just wondering if its gonna be possible to do anything silently.

ofcourse id imagine there might be a dragon sleeping in a cave, but.. im not so sure.

anyway those vids are being removed. i dont think we actually need them anymore.


Archery is vastly improved and it looks like enemies wont detect you as easily after the first arrow. I think stealth will have a strong presence.
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Nov 05 2011 05:25pm

Alex Dkana
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 Alex Dkana

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what those ideas are?

ill most likely build khajiit stealth with illusion magic school as one of the main focuses.


<3 Khajiit.

One would be a Khajiit thief, a combination of the whole Water Dancer thing from Game of Thrones/ASoIaF and more traditional thievery. I would completely avoid magic on this character though. All pickpocketing, lockpicking and such. Could be interesting working out how to kill a Dragon with him.

The other would be a Bosmer 'Witch of the Wilds' kinda thang. A sneaky magic user more at home in the wilderness than cities. Would make good use of alchemy and the silent spellcasting you mentioned. :)

I am still quite tempted to play a more warrior-like character first of this time though, my first ES characters are usually sneak based kleptomaniacs so a change could be good. I have a couple of ideas in that regard to, one of which would be an Altmer bounty hunter raised in Elsewyr who is an expert in hand to hand (I have a challenge set for myself where I defeat the last boss by punching him/her/it in the face).

Will find out Friday! :D

@Montee: Depends what you didn't get on with in Oblivion but from everything I can see Skyrim is going to blow it's predecessor out of the water. Hope you get on better with it!
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This comment was edited by Alex Dkana on Nov 05 2011 05:26pm.

Nov 05 2011 03:37pm

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

Something has lured me over to this title, i just ordered it.. I hated Oblivion but alas we shall see haha
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Nov 05 2011 01:09pm

planK
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 planK

I have a video containing 3 hours of gameplay on my computer. I skipped all the main and side quest content and just watched some of the exploring and combat, and holy crap it's awesome.

Also, "Things I Ate In Skyrim."

Nov 05 2011 12:10pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

yeah im just wondering if its gonna be possible to do anything silently.

ofcourse id imagine there might be a dragon sleeping in a cave, but.. im not so sure.

anyway those vids are being removed. i dont think we actually need them anymore.
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 05 2011 12:10pm.

Nov 05 2011 05:12am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

More gameplay
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Nov 05 2011 05:02am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Gameplay from review copy of the game
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Nov 05 2011 04:26am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

I'm guessing Dragons will make be arrogant often and try to fight you on the ground. Dragons are pretty arrogant!
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Nov 04 2011 11:40pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

i wonder what lycantropy, vampirism and cannibalism mechanics will be.

vampirism as i said before wasnt practical.
lycantropy was id say even worse - you couldnt use or pick items, your human form attributes and skills didnt affect werewolf form at all, every humanoid mob in the game had enhanced weapons - you were still with your claws, a lot of enemies having silver weapons. pain in the ass without much fun apart from roleplay/questing aspect.

anyway just realised a very huge problem with stealth in skyrim - how do you deal with dragons?
i guess you will be pretty much forced to use bows to take them to the ground and then you will be there with your light armor getting blaster to pieces :C
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This comment was edited by SaZ on Nov 04 2011 11:50pm.

Nov 04 2011 09:08pm

Mic Den Octela
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 Mic Den Octela

I was a little shocked when I read that werewolves are back in.

Going off what they had said previously it sounded like they were skipping over them and didn't want to talk about it. I thought for sure they wouldn't be in.

Played me well, Mr Howard. Played me well.
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Nov 04 2011 06:49pm

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Not 100% confirmed, but the screenshots are convincing. There are quite a few very skilled photoshop users in the world, though.

Cannibalism comes from this description from a rating bureau.

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THE ELDER SCROLLS V: SKYRIM is a role-playing game for PC, set in a vast open-world playing environment. The player takes on a number of quests in an attempt to save the land of Skyrim from destruction in a time of civil war. The game was classified '15' for strong violence.

There is violence throughout the game as the player attacks enemies using a range of weapons, including swords, daggers and axes. Attacks cause large spurts of blood but no realistic injury detail. The amount of blood goes beyond the limits of the BBFC's Guidelines at '12A'/'12', which state 'There should be no emphasis on injuries or blood' but is permissible at '15' where 'Violence may be strong but should not dwell on the infliction of pain or injury'. It is not possible to inflict further damage on the corpses of defeated enemies. While attacking innocent characters and allies is possible, it is not encouraged by the game mechanics as it makes you more likely to be attacked yourself and therefore hinders your progress. The game places a strong emphasis on problem-solving and collecting information rather than solely focusing on violence.

Other strong aspects of the game include: a cutscene which shows a decapitation during an execution; a section where you make the choice whether to join a group of cannibals in eating human flesh (although no detail of the activity itself is shown); and sight of a female murder victim with some bloody cuts on her limbs and back.

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This comment was edited by Augusta_Mintaka on Nov 04 2011 06:52pm.

Nov 04 2011 03:56pm

planK
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 planK

BERSERKER CANNIBALISM HERE I COME LOLOL

Awesome news. Thanks for the link mate!

Nov 04 2011 08:37am

Augusta_Mintaka
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 Augusta_Mintaka

Rejoice!
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Nov 03 2011 09:41pm

SaZ
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 SaZ

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Yeah you sorta had a hard time sneaking through the oblivion dimension...


when the game is more into dungeons and city-life... there is no need for oblivion realm kind of thing ... thus stealth should be much more viable? no?
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Nov 03 2011 03:26pm

planK
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 planK

Stealth characters can be so much fun and you better believe I'll have one. But my first character is going to be an absolute savage berserker Nord barbarian hell bent on smashing dragon skulls apart with the nearest blunt object.

KILL FIRST, MOLEST LATER. LOLOLOLLL

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