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Sith Lord - Student  |
How do ya win ? _______________ Is the enemy of your enemy really your enemy or your friend ? This post was edited by Sith Lord on May 02 2003 02:18am. |
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Acidic - Student 
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Well, all i do is i have 't' bound to force push and i keep hitting that and my mouse button, im just a quick clicker and i dont 'spasm' or twitch. Sometimes i try to get a working rhythm and just stay steady, i havent lost a saber lock for about 7 months now. im da king !!! Also about the attacking while grounded, sure its not really honourable but the main focus of the ja is to get people ready for good duels on the internet, and i think the best way to teach them is to think their opponent is going to be brutal with manners. More than half of the duelers out there on public servers dont bow, they only say GF when they win, and they do some reconnect trick as to stop u from fighting again. The internet is a harsh place, and in order to get people ready for public servers they need to learn how to get up fast, and the quicker they get up the less damage they will take. I expect everyone to act the same way towards me. _______________ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (Read error: Connection reset by beer) This comment was edited by Acidic on May 03 2003 05:28am. |
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Iceman - away- - Student |
Well a teacer told me this: take ENTER as another attack button and just push. |
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Silencio - Student 
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I never win saberlocks , so I usually just concentrate on getting up fast and countering their attack. Works most of the time _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Huxley - Retired 
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All I do, is I cup my hands, bringing my index and middle fingers together, and curved. Then, I use the quicker action of my WRIST, to move my HAND and FINGERS up and down, tapping very quickly on attack. You have to RELAX and NOT tense up. let your finger bounce and bounce and bounce ontop of the attack button. Cup your palm around your mouse, and/or use a wrist-rest, which I use. It works great, and I win against everyone but just a few people  |
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aph3x - Retired 
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you have to let teh force flow thru you dude. it's all about the muscile twitchy thing, while wailing on push. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Not its got to be higher than 10 Jake. And its not a mod effect either. It probably does depend on which saber stance you are using. I say its at the max of 40 because I originally thought it was below 20, but then people got killed by it when their health was above 20. So my guess is 40 just for safe measures. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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I killed ppl that were at about 40 that way, but donno what mod was on the servers, it was some publics, afaik. the best way is the double-CTRL/STRG technique. I haven'T lost a saberlock for ages that way.... _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I read about this, the severed hand, instant kill, saberlock win thing, happens if you're in a lock and your health is below 10 (might of been 15 or 20 but I'm pretty sure its 10) _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side 
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Buzz - Student 
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Here's something to consider. Usually losing a saber lock just knocks you to the ground. But once you get below around 40 HP and get into a saber lock it could be life or death. You lose at this point in your health and it won't matter how fast you can recover. You'll be dead from the lock and your opponent gets to see a nice animation of you falling to the ground staring at your severed hand ESB style. Will you be able to complain about the guy hitting you after this occurs? Nope. So you shouldn't complain about getting knocked to the ground. The guy can click faster than you just like other people can use moves better than you. Are you going to go tell them that they can't use the right strafing medium stance swing? _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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When saber locks occur, I win, I chop you...as it should be for everyone else. There is skill in saber locks for I have lost only them a few times. Rapidly pressing buttons and then recovering after that, is also skill. So, when you saber lock, and you win, strike them down!! On the other hand, people think its unfair. Well, its not...or else I wouldnt even try to fight a saber lock. I'd go to the kitchen, make myself a sandwhich, then comeback knowing you didnt attack me. Now is that what Jedi/Sith do?  _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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I'm still uneasy about the matter of how much lag affects saber locks. I don't know enough about the technical nitty-gritty of how it works to say for sure, but it seems to me that someone with a ping of 250+ doesn't stand a chance against me. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Chicka - Ex-Student 
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If I'm going to struggle to win a saber lock, I'm going to be attack the person if they fall. Not to mention it's easy to jump up really quick. Basically, I see nothing wrong with attacking someone on the ground. It's like, "Quit napping and duel!" Oh, and don't mash your poor spacebar! Just hold it down |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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thats what called freak ocarina. if your hand doesnt bleed after a saberlock you've done something wrong the bad thing abou twitiching is that i cant hold it long. after some seconds my whole arms is paralised and i lean forward in pain. that time i usually give up and just "hold" the other ones saber and try to get a lunge after a tie. there's one simple answer why you couldnt hurt somebody after a saberlock: you have to recover! all that clicking and stuff lets you fall out of your chair and pushes your keyboard and mouse miles away from their origin, who could care for something like attacking your enemy while he has to safe his keyboard from orange juice? last not least: who is slow enough to get attacked after a lock anyway? there are two different ways to get up that can safe your ass in 99% of the cases _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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OcarinaLink - Student 
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... ... ::falls down anime style:: I'm reading you're guys' posts on spasming and twitching, and I just find this whole thing hilarious. Personally, I'm able to win most of my saber locks with just using my alt key and my mouse button. I personally will not resort to using such methods as spasming and stuff, cause I'm always concerned about my health in the future. I mean, aren't you guys a little concerned about developing arthritis at age 35 as a result of this? If I get knocked down in a saber lock, I can always mash my spacebar to get up to avoid a hit altogether. Or rely on the my opponent's honor of not striking your enemy while he/she's down. That's my opinion... _______________ memento mori |
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Damon C. Belouve - Student 
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I agree with Java and my bro Ioshee! If I kick you down, you are fair game. But if I saber lock you down I do not attack. Having said that I know that not everyone has those convictions, so whenever I fall due to a kick or lost saber lock. I get ready to move like the dickens when I pop up. Since saber locks have so many different issues with them, it is hard to defend in my mind saber locks being a skill (though it is I'm sure). So as I lightsider I just back off my fallen foe rest a bit (or stratch that ichty finger), and on the public servers, where I play a darkersider called Saber, I walk around my fallen foe and taunt them. That's all, D.C.  _______________ One of the original Belouves. Padawan to the Mighty Tido and brother to Dane and Delvin! Proud Member of the Killer D's AKA the 3 D's of Tidoness. This comment was edited by Damon C. Belouve on Apr 25 2003 06:44pm. |
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ioshee - Student 
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Yeah I tend to agree with Java about the wheel thing. It’s not cheating, but I won’t do it myself. I get asked all the time how I win saber locks (well usually on public servers.) I have had people who were in the room while I was doing a saber lock Laugh out loud at me. It might have been the drool running down my chin and the blood coming out of my ears that really cracked them up though. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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JavaGuy - Student
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I bound the ctrl key to attack so as not to brutalize my mouse. I like my mouse. It's one of those nifty optical mice, no moving parts to wear out except for the buttons. I push and try to "twitch," but I also use a technique my saxophone instructor drilled into me for four years in college: when you release the key, don't take your finger off it! If you keep your fingers in contact with the keys at all times you can mash much faster. I keep the ctrl (attack) key pushed at least halfway down the whole time, because it registers a click every time the contact closes. I get accused of using the wheel mouse binding all the time. I frown on wheel-mouse binding for the simple reason that not everyone has a wheel. I don't consider it cheating, I just won't do it myself. I have no qualms about binding the ctrl key to attack because everyone has a ctrl key. Something that seems to have gone unnoticed is that one's LAG has a lot to do with it, at least it seems so to me. I've dueled people with lags of 200+ who did very well against me but could not win a lock against me to save their lives. Once you start to lag, forever will it dominate your destiny. I won't attack a person who's down because of a lock for precisely that reason. I'll gleefully RDFA someone I've _kicked_ down because such a person is on the ground because I put him there, but I won't attack a person who's down as a result of a lock because I wouldn't be able to shake the feeling of getting a free shot on him just because his ISP sucks. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Carve - Student 
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I tense my entire right side and shiver violently when doing saberlocks, while rapidly hitting force push. Even without push I beat most people who use push, but with push I can beat or tie everyone. Chicka has only beaten me three times (I think she forgot about our saberlocks ). Btw, it's vital you get the first force push. If you force push immediately, before clicking, you'll shove the guy back quite a bit and even if you click at the exact same speed, you have a chance of knocking the guy down. Edit: For those of you who get pissed if I hit you when I knock you down, think of how much effort that takes. It would be easier to hit you in REAL LIFE than it is here. So nya. _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on Apr 25 2003 02:18am. |
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MINDofSIN - Student 
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In paintball, the mid/index finger method is called "walking the trigger". Some guns shoot by the trigger breaking a laser beam that can be a fraction the width of a human hair, so yes, it is quite possible. I get to play soon. Woohoo! _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. This comment was edited by MINDofSIN on Apr 25 2003 12:27am. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Yeah but pushing is common sense, if you don't push and the other guy does, you'll lose, simple. To do the spasm technique you have to fall into one of 3 categories: You close you eyes and go into a deep state of concentration You grit your teeth and squnit your eyes You stick your tongue out Personally I'm a tongue sticker and I feel that it greatly imporves my saber lock winning ability. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Chicka - Ex-Student 
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Its already been said about 10 comments back, but its gone ignored! USE PUSH! PUSH PUSH PUSH! See, cause when you win you "push" them down! See the connection? pushing! Oh, and use your middle finger and twitch. I always win my saber locks. Or tie. (Unless the stars are in a certain alignment, which has happened like thrice) |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Just smash ur mouse like hell, the best way !! |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Hmm, maybe I should try that? I'm in good shape for some spasm. I stink at saber locks, even while c1 was drunk he managed to notice that..... /me is embarassed |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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yeah spasming works wonders it also looks very weird so make sure you're alone in the room before you try it  _______________ make install -not war |
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ioshee - Student 
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I use the twitch/spasm technique as well. I also go into sort of a comatose state temporarily. I think it helps that my mouse is sitting on the couch next to me too. It's a better position for the spasm technique then having it level to your elbow on a desk. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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