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Charon - ex-Student  |
Is everyone in the academy expected to be able to watch both the duel you're a part of, and the chat scroll, then be able to type fast enough to say hi to newcomers in the middle of a fight?
The story behind this question is this: I'm in a duel in the KS, all good. Sweet fight it was too. Apparently sometime in the middle of it, another academy member joined the server. The duel ended with a definite "Ouch" YDFA, which my opponent reacted appropriately, by saying "Ouch" ;> I posted my GF, and made a comment in response to the Ouch. To which the new arrival replies that noone but the Knight on the server can be expected to show any respect. So, wondering if he mistook my comment for an insult, I asked what he thought I did that was so disrespectful. "You didn't say hi, nor did the rest of your peers." So I mentioned that I was in the middle of a duel at the time, and still catching up to everything in the scroll. To which I was greeted with another barrage of "reminders" that the Academy was a friendly place, where we greet everyone, say Good Fight after a duel, and bow before one. Okay people, a fair number of you know me well enough to know how I behave in game. So you know I wasn't even remotly responsible for triggering a mention of Bowing, or any further respect of my opponents. As far as not welcoming a new arrival, no, I hadn't yet, I was still dueling. My apoligies for getting tunnel vision, I guess. My point is, are each and every one of us supposed to be such 1337 gamerz as to not miss a single message? I don't think so, and I don't appriciate being ridden about it. So, if the "new arrival" reads this, consider it what you will, but I'm hardly to blame for being imperfect. Next time, give a chap a chance to hit the console and check the messages after his fight. Yes, other than myself, I left out any other identities, which is more than fair I think. Respect to all others involved and all that. --Charon _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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very sorry to not read the whole comment (it's getting late) but i think i get the problem.
i made both a "hi" and a "wait please, we're dueling" bind so i can backflip, hit the key and go on without thinking. it's a matter of good behaviour to not stop every second in a duel to chat! this post gives me a chance to say something similar: dont get upset if a knight/JAT does not immindiatly answers on a request such as a trial or training whatever. there is a lot more chatter for us (admintalk, PMs) that you might see, and one can loose a simple message very easy. actualyl i ended standing there with opend concole to just keep track of everything several times now  so please... have some patience. _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 This comment was edited by Aeth S'kray on Jan 06 2003 02:07pm. |
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Charon - Ex-Student 
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Kalheka does have a point. 'Honour is who you are when noone is looking.' Or in the case of the 'net, when noone can truly affect you.
I didn't bring this event up to have somone to flame, or to keep myself from forgiving anyone. I brought it up because I left the server right after this all happened, rather than have a verbal argument in frot of everyone. I've yet to let on who it was that snapped at me, and I likely never will. The mere mention of his name would affect the impressions of everyone who reads this regarding this person. ( And no, don't go around thinking. "His? Okay so we can narrow it down to the males." When referring to an unknown or unrevealed person, using him/his/he is grammatically correct. English never had to make sense. ) My entire intent in this post was to gather the opinions of the Academy of what happened, not alter the opinions of the Academy regarding who was involved. Back to the original response (Just woke up, ranting. ;> ) Yes, Kalheka makes a fine point regarding forgiveness. In the adult world, forgiveness is a neccessity. Somehow, on the 'net, people have this "what can they do?" attitude about their behaviour. For those that think I'm wrong, try this for a single day. Respond to people exactly the same way you do on line, begin conversations the same way. Laugh in peoples faces the same way. Threaten them the same way. If you're 23 and acting like an online lamer in the real world, and you somehow manage to get back here to tell me about it. All I have to say is that you've so far outrun the police. Noone, at all, needs to act like a jerk, either to begin with, or in responce to somone else. --Charon _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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Kalheka - Student 
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I want to interject something that I think is important here. DJ, i'm going to partially disagree with you.
Quote DJ: Respect also means knowing your peers arent super-sensory omnicient androids (or whatever) but are human beings. Charon you acted fine. I think the new person you spoke of is just a little respect trigger happy. End Quote. Here is my disagreement. What your describing isn't really part of respect. I respect your opinion, and you. Hell I even like you What your describing in that post is called compassion. Compassion is another quality that is sadly lacking in the world, next to respect.
Campassion is another word for understanding, and forgivness. If you have no compassion for others, if you can't see your way to forgivness, your missing an essential part of being a grown up. Many of us older players seem to have a problem showing compassion for other people. The world could do with a hell of a lot less of people pointing fingers and jumping down each others throats. Being able to say, "it's ok" or, "no problem" or "I forgive you" is an important part of getting along in the real world as well as the online experience. If you can't excuse another person for making an error, how can you expect to recieve it? How many times have you made a mistake, to have somebody holler at you, and chew you out, even after you said you were sorry? Did it feel good? Why would you do that to somebody else if you didn't enjoy it either? What gives you the right to trample somebody else for making a mistake? We all have to learn to show compassion for each other. Tolerance is another word that the World needs. Many of you that have met here are very different from me. I have had the opportunity to meet people from corners of the physical world that I never would have met in another setting. Imagine the loss we would all experience if we all came together in this place, and didn't show each other compassion and tolerance. What a sad state the world is truly in, becuase of the lack of these 2 qualities. I keep seeing people post, "It's just a game." It is just a game, but how we act when we play is sometimes more important than how we act when we aren't. Just some words for everybody to think on. _______________ Death is only the beginning. |
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JAcen LW Solo - Retired 
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Don't feel bad Charon everyone does that (including myself) .
I mean, if I see the message I try to say Hi, but if im too concentrated on the fight I wont. - JAce _______________ "Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I shall fear no evil .For I am the baddest mofo in the valley" |
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Charon - Ex-Student 
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Uhh, yeah, I try and look at my opponent. _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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Silencio - Student 
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I rarely even look at the chat messages during a duel... _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Charon - Ex-Student
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Thank you DJ, I do appriciate hearing that. I do think I need to clarify that by newcomer I'm not saying this other person was new to the academy, only that they had just arrived on the server. Only a few of my select friends get the label "n00b" out of me. ;> _______________ spirit's searing pain battlefield of broken glass fallen speak to me --Charon |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Respect also means knowing your peers arent super-sensory omnicient androids (or whatever) but are human beings. Charon you acted fine. I think the new person you spoke of is just a little respect trigger happy. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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