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May 22 2003 12:25am

RageRunner
 - ex-Student
RageRunner
Hi. I am just wondering how you get ranked here in the Jedi Academy. Sorry, but I havn't found anything on the site "yet", that talks about this. I'm probably not looking in the right places.
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May 27 2003 02:35pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

"Jake, you should be a proffesional mindreader, my thoughts exactly. Here everyone from the worst student (I can only say that because I'm talking about myself ) to the best at least TRY to help people out if they need help/training/have questions (Talking generally, it's not in my character to believe that everyone is helpful, friendly and polite, not even here where it's so good).

And of course all of the others made some good speeches, as our Lead Knight said.

Btw, been wondering, you say that this Knight list is big, but is it just those who have nomination(s), or is it generally who are Knight material? 'Cause if it's the first then there's a lot more people out there with nominations than I knew.... well, of course it helps on the info getting out when everyone confuses me with you.... :D"

May 25 2003 08:57pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

whats your question Jacen lol ?
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May 25 2003 07:52pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

*bump*

Would any of the people with some knowledge of this answer my question please?

May 23 2003 04:38pm

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

well, I am used to 30 to 70 on NL, but these days I am glad when I am below 150.....

and I am not the only one, Shannon also experienced massive problems....
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May 23 2003 03:26pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Eh... Acey have a ping of 450... on a GOOD day... :D

May 23 2003 02:55pm

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

I'm the King Of Ping. Once it went over 300. :eek:
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May 23 2003 12:22pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Well, Acey don't complain.... too often... :P

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 23 2003 12:22pm.

May 22 2003 10:48pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

hmmm, that is a doozy, it all depends where you live really.... If you're close to the servers, then you might just be able to get away with it, otherwise try the NL server. If that doesn't work either get a new connection :) Or I'm sorry to say you can't play on academy servers :( unless you don't mind moving in matrix style bullet time for the duration of your stay in the server :D
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May 22 2003 10:33pm

RageRunner
 - Ex-Student
 RageRunner

I see, thank you. Thats pretty cool how you guys put the ranking system into that perspective. I never thought of it like that. Well, how can I get in a server thats not laggy. I have 56k modem, but i only get 26.4 out of my phone jack.
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May 22 2003 12:50pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Jake, you should be a proffesional mindreader, my thoughts exactly. Here everyone from the worst student (I can only say that because I'm talking about myself :D) to the best at least TRY to help people out if they need help/training/have questions (Talking generally, it's not in my character to believe that everyone is helpful, friendly and polite, not even here where it's so good).

And of course all of the others made some good speeches, as our Lead Knight said.

Btw, been wondering, you say that this Knight list is big, but is it just those who have nomination(s), or is it generally who are Knight material? 'Cause if it's the first then there's a lot more people out there with nominations than I knew.... well, of course it helps on the info getting out when everyone confuses me with you.... :D

May 22 2003 11:19am

JAcen LW Solo
 - Retired
 JAcen LW Solo

Good speeches gentleman.

The main difference between an "Advanced" student and a Knight is that knighthood implies commitment and recognition for a good job as "advanced student".

As a student you can teach , help, etc. whenever you feel like it. As a Knight it is your duty.

You must uphold the law while in servers, help a JAT when requested (if you are on the server at the moment of course), and if you wish to became a JAT someday you are obliged to teach as a Knight (witch implies a preparation period, blah blah bla..).

Also as a knight you will receive proper tutoring on the Art of teaching. That’s should be the main quality of a JAT/JAK. Knowing how ot teach, many ppl are extremely good players but they are unable to pass their knowledge.

There are many fine candidates to an extremely number of vacancies, although some might feel forgotten but if they are doing a good job they probably aren’t. There is a list. A big list. So eventually everyone will get a go at it. It's just a matter of time.


Think of the wait as part of trial. Patience and character are highly looked upon when selecting someone.

Peace

Your Lead Knight

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May 22 2003 10:33am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

yeah, Jake, but this is the path that lies beyond most ppl in here, I presume.

but, just look at the huge amount of people that stepped down from the knight rank lately - this implicates there has to be some background - also for you who are new in the JA.

But, do not feel offended by our replies here, it is just that there were major discussion on this topic and the majority of ppl is happy (imho) the way things are handeled now.
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Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04

"Renfield, you idiot!"


May 22 2003 10:27am

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Oh of course theres no problem with striving for something :). Most of us more 'advanced students' are here to help others, but lets not forget to help ourselves as well :) I would like to take the Knight written test and trial just to see what it is like, since theres so much secrecy surrounding it all. Plus people have said it is hard, I like a challenge, something that would test my gameplay skills not my good manner :)

Some people say they 'deserve' the Knight rank as it is defined here. Some people I do agree with, they have shown all the things which in my opinion would make a good Knight here and they'd fit in well. Others think that just because they have greater skill, and say hi to everyone new who joins makes them a worthy candidate. The truth is, anyone who say they 'deserve' to be a knight, doesn't. As I have understood it, you are chosen, you do not choose.

I'll admit that for a while, even I was on a personal conquest for knighthood, I have no shame in admitting that. Becoming knight was all I thought about, I'd help people jsut for the sake of it, when I was training people I'd talk in main chat instead of private so that trainers or JAC's could hear. Looking back, I'm ashamed of this, it got me nowhere, lead to frustration and poor tuition of the studetns I was training.

I've gone above this now (why do I keep talking about jsut me ? theres loads of people out there like me)

About all the social stuff, sure thats nice but like I said before thats not what a being a knight is about. Ah I give up what do I know, talking bout all this Knight stuff like I'm experienced :D I may not know the academy as well as some of the other people here, but I know the type of place this is, and I love it :D I'll stay as long as you'll have me.

In conclusion, I'll plug on, for you others who are eagerly awaiting knighthood like I once was, be patient, if you're meant to be a knight you will be...
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May 22 2003 10:24am

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

GET A SHRINK IF U BECOME A KNIGHT ITS MAJOR STRESS!!! PEOPLE DONT REALISE THE STRESS LOL!!!!!
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May 22 2003 10:15am

Ash
 - Eats Babies
 Ash

nah jake you didnt say anything contraversial :)

the only point i wanna add is concerning this

"Many people here think that people want a rank just so they can show off and feel better in themselves, which makes it look bad for people who this rank was actually made for. The people that want to help, who care nothing for personal glory or benefit. "

yes, i realize that obtaining the knight rank should not be in vain. one should not obtain the rank just to show it off. that is absurd.

but what if a person wants to obtain the rank as sort of a personal goal. see, i wouldnt mind one day become a knight. but i know its a long hard journey involving hours of training and dedication. and that is why i am interested in become a knight. because its a personal goal for me to accomplish. i dont accomplish much in life, so for a person like me to complete the task of becoming a knight, it would be a monumentual boost of self confidence, which is something im severly lacking at the moment.

now dont get me wrong, i still feel that ones goal in becoming a knight should be to help out, but i dont see anything wrong with making it a personal goal to strive for.
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May 22 2003 10:14am

Rendar
 - Student
 Rendar

I agree with you Jake. I for one already feel as if I do alot of the duties a knight would. I help out when i can, I train others, I help keep the peace, and I know I still have alot to learn. However someone seeking to obtain the rank of Knight is honorable I think. Yes you can do all the same things a Knight can do (with the exception of admin rights) without having the rank. However having the rank gives you just a slight nudge up the ladder when it comes to community envolvement. There are certain aspects of our community thats Knight get to assist in that you cannot do without that rank. To me Knighthood is equivalent with the next step of commitment and envolvement in the Jedi Academy Community.

May 22 2003 10:08am

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Hey Jake, I feel the sameway. Maybe it's controversial but it's the way we feel. And like you say, it matter's not that we don't have a tag. It's enough of a reward to help out people and see them get better.
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May 22 2003 10:08am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

well, I wanted to point you to the FAQ section, but I have just noticed that the portion about ranks has been removed, well then.

Basically, we just dont want anything like ranks or tags to judge people before knowing them. we are all equal. we all want to have fun, and we all have to obey the rules.

We had ranks here, but it didnt work they way proposed.


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Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04

"Renfield, you idiot!"


May 22 2003 09:47am

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Thats not to say you won't become a Knight :)

Many people here think that people want a rank just so they can show off and feel better in themselves, which makes it look bad for people who this rank was actually made for. The people that want to help, who care nothing for personal glory or benefit.

Consider myself for example. I'm not a Knight, nor to I ever see it happening. But, I consider myself a Knight/Trainer, doing everything which a rank here stands for. The way I see it, having an extra 3 letter tag on the end of your name doesn't change the person you are, if you act like a knight, then YOU ARE A KNIGHT. Ok so maybe it won't be listed on the site and you wouldn't get admin powers or all the other fringe benefit things like that, but is any of that really what being a knight is all about ?

My name is Jake Kainite, I'm here to help. I don't care about rank, if someone wants help I'll help them, if someone wants training I'll train them, if someone misbehaves I'll set them straight. I've gone beyond learning, as theres not much else I can learn from the trainers which is why I now turn to students and their fresh knowledge brought in from the oustside world (otherwise known as the forbidden place,public servers), I'm here to help others learn and in turn learn from them.

I'm kinda in a weird mood whilst writing this, so if I've put something which is contraversial I apologize.
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May 22 2003 12:46am

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

You're here to learn so you can get better at the game and have fun, not get better just so you can increase your standing among other players at the academy. There are clan if you're into that sort of thing. We used to have a ranking system but it was removed because it was eventually seen as being more trouble than any benefits it gave.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


May 22 2003 12:35am

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

oh and student. 95% of people here are students.
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May 22 2003 12:34am

SilkMonkey
 - Distributor of Cold Ones
 SilkMonkey

Theres basically like 4 ranks

Council - DJ, Whispy, Doobie, C1, and Hux
These are the people in charge of running the place. Also known as JACs.

Instructors - Too many to mention right now, but they are the ones who teach classes usually (cept Hux). You can find them by a [JAT] tag.

Knights - Think of a mini-teacher, or a T.A. These people help out with all kinds of miscellaneous crap. Them and anyone above ^^
can take on padawans (officially). They help control the servers, and are still students basically.

Staff - Special Rank, you are appointed by the Council to be in charge of something specific. They can make news posts. Thats about it.
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