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My apologies
May 29 2003 08:21pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student
*ahem*

After reading Jake's post in 'Ranking system' (about how he had used main chat when teaching so that the JAT's would know, etc.) I started thinking. This was exactly what I had done. I worked, trying to get a nomination, I helped people with that little thought; "if I keep this up I'll get a nomination!", and I'm ashamed of this. Not meaning that I didn't enjoy teaching or helping, I did and still do, but I didn't do it all out of a desire to help others, while getting more and more frustrated that the JAT's didn't nominate me.

This was especially strong in the beginning and had gradually cooled off till now. Now I have seen the light: it doesn't pay off to do that, you will get nothing but frustrations and in the end (as well as in the moment) you'll enjoy helping without having a goal much more.

I apologies to the JAK's, JAT's and JAC's especially for trying to decieve them, but also to my fellow student, especially those who I have helped for my own sake, for my inproper behaviour.

Also, I wish to warn those who are doing this or thinking of doing this: it does NOT pay off, I haven't recieved anything but anger by this sherade and I hope you won't follow my "example".



This might not seem very important to many of you but it's a matter of honor to me. I hate to say it, but I have turned away from the dark side. I hope you won't lose any respect for me because of this (assuming you had some before... ;)).

I know you'll express your feelings.

Sincerly

Jacen Aratan
Humble student of the Academy.

*bows*

This post was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 29 2003 08:24pm.

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May 31 2003 09:52am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

There, there Jake... *pats Jake on the shoulder* Everything is gonna be all right.... ;)

May 30 2003 10:10pm

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

*weeps* I am no good at these kind of discussions........
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May 30 2003 08:08pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Well Billy, that's the least I can do.... :P

Ulic.... you know I'm too stupid to do that. *looks around* Yes, too stupid, eh.... *runs away* j/k ;)

Bandit, you were one of the people I had in mind when I wrote this and I really apreciate you saying that. It means alot to me mate. I'm glad to know that you got something out of it. :)

And thank you to all the others who has replied here, damnit, I'm going all sentimental now, one big family (in a non-gang way).... :)

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 31 2003 09:51am.

May 30 2003 08:06pm

Sniya
 - Student
 Sniya

Well done....keep this up and youll be nominated in no time:D
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May 30 2003 08:03pm

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

You're still cool in my book Jacen! Eventhough you killed me a couple of times in Word Story!
:)

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May 30 2003 07:33pm

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

Well done Jacen, but do you really think they'll nominate you for making this post?

no kidding ;)
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May 30 2003 06:03pm

Bandit
 - Student
 Bandit

Jacen, as one of people who benefitted from your help, let me just say "thanks". As the most likely oldest member of the academy (I'm talking age here...not length of membership) let me just say that I've learned a few things in my life. One of them is that people often do things for a variety of reasons and not just one. The fact that you hoped your actions would get you nominated does not in any way diminish the fact that you did help others because you also derived some satisfaction from it or simply out of benevolence. Nobody does anything for solely altrusistic reasons. Someone who gives time or money to charity shouldn't belittle themselves because they feel good about their actions. It is still a noble gesture... and those that receive the help greatly appreciate it. The same is true of your actions. I appreciate your help and I am a better player today because of it.
In fact, without you and Flash, I might well have quit coming to the Academy. No one else would teach me... Eventually, JaMeS and Jake Kainite agreed to teach me. I am indebted to both for agreeing to help me improve when they have time. But I'm only around now because you showed interest and a willingness to help me when no one else would. :)
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May 30 2003 10:45am

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Yeah m8 your right. I had the same thing but i overcame it because i like teaching and helping others above being a JAK. The feeling of making a difference is reward enough. I have 2 unofficial padawan's at the moment and it feels good to hear they learned something from me. So I hope u will keep helping people m8 and remember i always had my respect and you always will my friend u are great **bows**

May 30 2003 10:28am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Yeah, it does Jake. :)

But I'm glad it's in this community I can say something, other places have the tendency to flame people who have tried to decieve the ranked. :(

May 30 2003 10:16am

Jake Kainite
 - Student
 Jake Kainite

Feels good to bring it out in the open huh ? When you realise you're no longer expecting to get a reward for helping people thats when you do. Just a simple "thankyou. you've helped me loads" is enough to make it all worthwhile. You know what they say, if you can reach just one person.......

I'm proud of you Jacen, and thats saying soemthing.



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May 30 2003 09:00am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Thanks Kueller. That's what friends are for, getting wacked with a saber. :)

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on May 30 2003 10:27am.

May 30 2003 08:20am

Kueller
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 Kueller

Jace, LOL, I know this thingy so well. Many of us went through it I think. It's part of our learning process. Because if you stop it you have learned a lot of things. Humbleness, patience, a better view of the academy and better relations with other people. At least it was what I learned from all of it. Don't you think that quiting the trying feels wonderfull. The ability to only do the things you really enjoy. And let me tell you something I think. The JAT's have a li'll list with people on it. But I think they don't need many JAK's now, so nobody is nominated. You'll see when you're nominated. And until that time I see you have tought yourself just to have a great time. BEcause you're a very good friend. (And one heck of a student to let me vent my RL anger on ya:D)
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May 30 2003 07:38am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Exactly Smily.

And thanks to Helen for reminding me of her ownership of me and to Ioshee for that spooky comment..... ;)

May 30 2003 03:42am

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

I've always respected you Jacen Aratan...

now I love you.
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May 29 2003 11:48pm

Smilykrazy
 - Retired
 Smilykrazy

HI. Im glad you are happy now. This game is meant to be fun. The people here are great. I am willing to help anyone who asks because I like doing it and I would want the same from other people who are more experienced then me. If one day i am meant to be a knight then great...if not then im happy just having fun with the game. I love all the people here and the Academy is great. Take care.:)
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May 29 2003 09:04pm

Hèlèñ¢å†hè®îñè
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 Hèlèñ¢å†hè®îñè

awww not make any difference to me what ya done or didn't do.....u still my pet an i'll look after ya :D lol
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May 29 2003 08:51pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

Thank you Monthy, that's so deep....... ;)

May 29 2003 08:30pm

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

well said jacen :) ur a clever person altho it took u long enough to work it out :D hehe, nah seriously just help each other out its a much better reward, being JAK is HIGH STRESS!!!! :D believe me
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May 29 2003 08:29pm

Jacen Aratan
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Wow, this is the longest serious post I've ever made I think..... :)

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