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_cmad_ - ex-Student  |
Okay about time I edited this thread after 1/2 year of life. Can you imagine SW if there was only the Dark or the Light side??? It would *definitely* _STINK_! However, which is more powerful? I think it's the Dark Side: => More Jedi fall to the d/s than Sith/Dark Jedi go to the l/s (MANY more) => Look at the duels (in the movies). You see the Sith being calm (prolly fighting more than one Jedi) and the Jedi being ready to shit on themselves  => The d/s force powers are offensive (used to kill  ) whereas the l/s force powers are defensive. And we all know the best defense is offense  => NORMALLY, when some Jedi fights a Sith the Sith has the Force Power advantage. Not many Jedi can absorb D/S Force Powers. They must be really trained, and that's unusual. OK Yoda is the force beast (I mean he handles the force like no-one else can, hmm, maybe like Palpatine, just maybe, but prolly a bit more) so he was really cool defending against Dooku's force powers. But, see, Dooku was less trained than Yoda in the Force and still he could attack him alright without losing (lightsaber fight is something else, not concerning the Force Sides). So as you can see less trained D/Sers can beat the hell outta a Jedi using the force alone  (don't include Yoda eh)=> And well, after seeing the movies, haven't you noticed how much cooler the Sith are than the Jedi?  ******BTW: Who wants to see a Yoda VS Palpatine fight on ep3!!!???****** _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. This post was edited by _cmad_ on Jan 10 2004 09:49am. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Sounds very good Gunrow |
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Gunrow - Ex-Student 
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Also, one must consider the whole idea of 'bringing balance to the force'. When there was an abundance of light users, as in epI-III, the few dark side users were able to overcome the light (They HAD to to restore balance). When the balance shifted to the dark, as in the Empire's heyday, the light overcame (Vader/Skywalker destroyed the Emperor not in Sith-like hate, but in defense of one he loved. THAT makes him a light user in those last moments. Which means he balanced the Force TWICE). It's all about the balance, Gents. Also, look at the dynamics of the Jedi/Sith relationships. There can be THOUSANDS of Jedi. Doctrine holds that Sith exist in pairs: A master and an apprentice. The apprentice challenges the master, and if he overcomes his master, becomes the master and seeks an apprentice of his own. If he fails and dies, the master takes a new apprentice. Or in Vader and Sidious' case, they grow content with one another until Sidious detects an apprentice-candidate with more potential than his current apprentice and pits them against one another. In any case, there are TWO dark side users with thousands of potential light users. Spread the light side thin over thousands and sure a couple dark siders will hack through them like a weed wacker through grass. Hell, that could be why Obi-Wan Kenobi allowed himself to be killed in Ep4 - He knew the light side needed a champion armed with as much force as possible. Or why Yoda faded right before the final confrontation on the second death star. That could also explain why Obi-wan was able to pull out a victory against Darth Maul once Qui-Gon Jinn went down. It makes sense. The Sith may realize this more than the Jedi do and incorporate it into their hierarchy. Or they just want the most power possible for themselves. However I think the Jedi, not being power hungry, feel that more good can be done with more users out there. They don't care if the power is divided among them. Shoot, they think too much power is a bad thing altogether. That's why they organize into a council and not a master/apprentice relationship. Think on that and let me know how you feel. Go Light side  _______________ "Let The Hunt Begin" |Brother to EAF_Fencer|Son of Skywalker| |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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fighting is not the solution to every problem. Yoda is great because of his wisdom and intelligence, not because he pwns _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Messiah - Ex-Student 
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the sith are much more powerful, better trained etc. The Dark Side of the force is indeed stronger, much more focust at fighting. _______________ Council member of ={TAO}=, site: http://www.tao-clan.tk/ |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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He is one hell of a Sith, i think... But that damn stupid look he had when he saw ObiWan jump over him really pisses me off!!! He could easily have reacted and killed ObiWan in no-time... _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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I dont like u no more cM@D_x u talk bad about Mauly |
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Kueller - Student 
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BTW. There is a horizon between them. Just read the last few books from EU. Jacen finds that path. I'm not going to tell what happens there, you should read it for yourself. But Light and Dark are 2 sides of a coin. And you can control the coin instead of one side if you have some talent. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Refering to Flamori 5.1 Beta: Always??? Do you remember: epI: Maul beats QuiGon (1-0) epI: ObiWan beats Maul (1-1) epII: Douku beats ObiWan (2-1) epII: Douku beats Anakin (3-1) epII: Yoda VS Douku: no-one, but let's say Yoda (3-2) epIII: ??????? epIV: Vader beats ObiWan (4-2) epV: Vader beats Luke (5-2) epVI: Luke beats Vader (BUT WITH HIS DARK RAGE), so (6-3, both get a point). I should have also counted Palpatine VS Luke but Vader interrupted them So what do you say?????? _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
It's actually not that off topic, Kueller opened the door and I jumped in the room... |
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Flamori Athena - Student 
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The Light Side is stronger! Or haven't you noticed the Jedi have always beaten the Sith? _______________ «±» 21st on the Midbie Council, Profile ID: 2027 «±» True wisdom is the knowledge that you know nothing. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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I see until today the "equallity" prevails between the Dark and the Light Side. I can live with that. But the first choice (d/s) would make me even happier! And no, I don't think that the Siths do fight "calmer" because of arrogance. They don't think the Jedis have no power; they think the Jedis have less (maybe a little) power. Look at Maul VS QuiGon : Maul was an apprentice and QuiGon a Jedi more experienced than Maul. But he was beaten. Though the lack of IQ ( ) in Maul made him lose by ObiWan (he was surprised). Anyway, that was just an example  _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Marq - Ex-Student 
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hey just a query if there was a dark and light side couldnt there be a between like a horizon between sky and sea? _______________ For every pause i was nearly garenteed time to speak. It's always the selfish who say that life is way too short. I'm not looking to get old, but I bet it'll happen anyway. |
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Marq - Ex-Student 
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In the end both the dark side and the light side come from the unless the force itself favours one side then they are both equal. _______________ For every pause i was nearly garenteed time to speak. It's always the selfish who say that life is way too short. I'm not looking to get old, but I bet it'll happen anyway. This comment was edited by Marq on Jun 01 2003 10:11am. |
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Trekked - Student 
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i Prefer to use the D/S _______________ he's a Real nowhere man,Sitting in his Nowhere land.making all his Nowhere plans for nobody |
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Luke Skywalker - Student 
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Dude, you realise how off topic that is . _______________ Luke Skywalker
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
But I can't agree with the 'light eradicates dark' theory, that's not true all the time, look at black holes fx. |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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That is true Jacen, but when you think about it, a good lightsider wouldn't really need those offensive powers as long as his defense can counter anything the darksider has in store for him. Take Yoda in Ep2, how he absorbed Dooku's lightening and shot it back at him. As far as the blade goes, sure the lightsider fights very defensively, but that doesn't really mean he doesn't attack at all, having control over what he's doing can be advantageous when it comes to countering a dark opponents rage or method of attack. I guess you can say light and dark really oppose one another, but a Jedi strong with the force can DEFINATELY overcome any Sith. _______________ Luke Skywalker
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Demon - Student 
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Dark don't fall to the light in the films, only in the books. It was made possible by Anakin (read my earlier post). _______________ Quote: Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force will free me. -The Code of The Sith
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Marq - Ex-Student
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if there was dark and light couldnt there be a happy compremise? _______________ For every pause i was nearly garenteed time to speak. It's always the selfish who say that life is way too short. I'm not looking to get old, but I bet it'll happen anyway. |
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Marq - Ex-Student
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No in the movies the sith look more calm because they are arrogant about their strength in the dark side and is eventually their down fall _______________ For every pause i was nearly garenteed time to speak. It's always the selfish who say that life is way too short. I'm not looking to get old, but I bet it'll happen anyway. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
I don't believe the light side is stronger. Think of it; what offensive powers do they have? Where as dark siders can use different forms of offensive powers light siders can only use defensive powers and their saber. |
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Kueller - Student 
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The path to the Dark Side is much faster road to power. That's why Luke could beat Darth Vader when he went in rage. You can get stronger faster. And idd the Sith practise only on their power, for Jedi's there are other things besides that. But when someone of the Light side puts his whole life in total devotion to discover it's powers Light will conquer. The light side just like the real light can make shadows dispappear by shining very bright. The lightside powers are naturally anti-dark to. I haven't seen any dark-side power that could counter the light side. And another pro of the light-side: Lightsiders can work together to combine their powers! This is where you get the power to move a whole fleet of Star Destroyers systems away in a few seconds. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Perhaps Luke, but the dark side fills them with strength and thus they have more raw power than the Jedi (I think...). Well, in any case, they're more specialized in the way of fighting, as Silencio said, and that makes them damn cool to me.... |
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Silencio - Student 
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dark more powerful? I dunno, but they're a lot more ambitious. What you need to remember it that the jedi are a lot less specialized than the sith. The jedi act as negotiators, councelors, diplomats and many other things. They don't take sides, but they will protect the weak. The sith only want power. The jedi are in the way of that power, and so they train more specialized in saber fighting and such. Just my thoughts... _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Luke Skywalker - Student
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Well the part where you say the Sith's are calmer... I believe because of arrogance. I think they believe that the dark side is so much more powerful that they need not put their minds to the duel. It's like an experienced JK2 player going against a seemingly newbish player (not to correspond with light and dark) The experienced player would probably be like "Oh this is gonna be easy" and put less effort into it. Then the other player will suddenly whip out some good hits or a solid yDFA. The experienced player would have to be pissed there, so he would most likely come after him like crazy, unaware of what he's doing, like a rage. (Hey, you know what, that actually does correspond with light and dark) So basically, the dark side puts little mind into their duels while the Jedi do, thus giving Jedi great control over their emmotions and what they do. This of course, is my opinion. _______________ Luke Skywalker
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