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Trekked - Student  |
For God so loved the world that he Gave his only Begotten son,that whoever belives in him shalt not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 _______________ he's a Real nowhere man,Sitting in his Nowhere land.making all his Nowhere plans for nobody |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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snif _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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FaDed - Student 
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i meant Ulic Belouve, but it suppose it works for the both of you.  |
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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Correction Ulic, you're just a NERD who likes LotR  |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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*waves* nerd=pro _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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hey, no sadness, nerd is a term we all should embrace, since we're all nerds! _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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Nerd? Monstrousities? I'm just a guy who likes LotR...snif _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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ioshee - Student 
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We're just quoting favorite or special-to-us Bible verses. Some people are sharing a little bit about why they chose a particular verse too. I hope that is what Trekked had in mind when he started this. It is right Trekked? _______________ One of the Belouve boys This comment was edited by ioshee on Jun 09 2003 12:52am. |
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FaDed - Student
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i was going to go back and read all of the previous posts, but then i saw Ulic's monstrousities and gave up. so anyone want to fill me in on what's going on here? |
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doobie - Jedi Council
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Haha leave it to computer nerds to quote Tolkien in a bible verses thread  _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Ulic |retired| - Student
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SIL: Akallabeth 102 Hear now all peoples who bow not to the Shadow in the East, by the gift of the Lord of Mundburg we will come to dwell in the land that he names Calenardhon, and therefore i wow in my own name and on behalf of the Eotheod of the North that between us and the great people of the West there shall be friendship for ever: their enemies shall be our enemies, their need shall be our need, and whatsoever evil, or threat, or assault may come upon them we will aid them to the utmost end of our strength. This wow shall descend to my heirs, all such as may come after me in our new land, and let them keep it in faith unbroken, lest the Shadow fall upon them and they become accursed. Vanda sina termaruva Ellena nórea alcar enyalien ar Elendil Vorondo Voronwë. Nai tiruvantes i hárar mahalmassen mi Númen ar i Eru i or ilyë mahalmar eä tennoio. This oath shall stand in memory of the glory of the Land of the Star, and of the faith of Elendil the Faithful, in the keeping of those who sit upon the thrones of the West and of the One who is above all thrones forever. _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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Doppelgänger - Student 
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Well said Jake! I don't think it was preaching I think it's was a valid outlook on things. _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Thats one thing I do argue in favour for the religion thing, about god not stopping bad things happen. For a second (just for comparrison) lets call god the force, so right now God = Force. Ok, death is a part of life, life is created by the force, therefore death is part of the force, therefore it has to happen. IT HAS TO. Asking "why did these people die ? does the force not care ?" well, people have to die, its just their destiny. I beleive that everything is pre-ordaned and everything that happens, happens for a reason. Theres no true choice, only the fact that we don't know what our destiny is, therefore we can still make choices which are already ordaned in time. Ignorance is bliss  <just realised now I'm the one thats preaching  >So in conclusion, people die not becuase your god hates them or thinks them bad (unless you think that all sinners must die, what happened to forgive and forget ?)they die because, well.....they have to. Its just their time...... _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Hector Thrawn - Ex-Student 
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interesting point doppel. of course one needs to be able to draw the line between beautiful and awe-inspiring. i find that storms are one of the few types of weather patterns that do both (of course this also depends on the nature of the storm). this brings me to my next point; the bible is full of really cool things, regardless of whether you believe it or not (its like shakespear sometimes) you could compare God to a storm, it can be dangerous yes, but at the same time it inspires both awe and is extremely beautiful, moreover: its an essential part of nature. the comparison therefore is actually an extremely appropriate one given the attributes that God is supposed to have. |
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Bandit - Student 
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"Don't get too riled up over this stuff. If I wanted to convert you, I'm much more direct. I've been doing it for years, and you would know." I don't get riled up over it at all anymore. I used to ... but when you are an atheist living in the bible belt, and have a father who is a preacher, a uncle who is a preacher, a grandfather who used to be a preacher, a sister in seminary and a host of others that desperately want you to convert....you become jaded to the efforts and learn how to politely ignore it. "And don't think you can surprise me. I've got many fun filled stories to tell you about a one-armed atheist who is simply very, very amusing with his arguments. So nothing against one-armed people or atheists, but if you think you can get my eyebrows raised to the roof, you'll have to outdo this guy. Man, I'm basically rolling on the floor laughing over some of his arguments. Atheists make good arguments, but not this guy." I don't think I could surprise you, nor would I want to convert you to my way of thinking. I believe I am right, but I also know there is no way to prove that there is or is not a God. It ultimately comes down to faith. Now, before I become too much of a hypocrite and derail this thread with my predilection for debate, I will cease and desist. Although, if you enjoy debate, I know the perfect site to visit and can send you the link if you so desire. Cheers! _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) |
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Doppelgänger - Student
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Call me crazy but for some reason when I pictured that scene on the ship and the storm I always thought it was beautiful. I think people get so wrapped up in worrying that they can't see something natural as being beautiful. I might have been the only person other than Jesus not freaking out had I been on the ship. Sounds crazy but I've never been scared in a tornado but on the same note I've never been in a trailer with a tornado above either so I suppose it's just as well. _______________ "Look not back in anger, nor forward in fear But around you in awareness." Ross Hersey |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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"Pray for all people, asking God for what they need and being thankful to him." I Timothy 2:1 I thought about this one, since most people talk about the bad things that happen in the world, as proof that God must not exist or care. I personally wonder if it is a blessing or a curse to have a mind that never rests. But I would rather be a cynic than a hypocrite, so you continue to think about, and many of you also think: about starving children about those who are taken from us for no reason about Christians in cancer wards (I mean, they're Christians, thy go to church, why do they suffer?) Tough questions. Throw-in-the-towel questions. Questions the disciples must have asked in the storm. All they could see were black skies as they bounced in the battered boat. Then a figure came to them walking on the water. It wasn’t what they expected. They almost missed seeing the answer to their questions. And unless we look and listen closely, we risk making the same mistake. God’s lights in our dark nights are as numerous as the stars, if only we’ll look for them. So really, I've had tough times too. I just think he's around all the time. Sometimes he just plays the old Jedi-mind-trick on you, and you have to look for him. Hint: Force seeing might work on him. So hey, when ya think the uber-Jedi Master known as God isn't around, kick on the Force seeing. Maybe he's stuck under one of the JA elevators. Hehe. note: OK, OK. It might seem like sermon, might seem like commentary. I'm not meaning to condemn anyone or preach. Just giving a Jedi twist to things, like you see above. Not a sermon, really. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jun 06 2003 01:58am. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student 
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Well, OK. I must clarify my side. As a leader of two Christian organizations, I've run into many people who, at the mere mention of "Church", "Christ", or "Bible", simply start to accuse you of preaching to them. And, since I did JUST start to actually add some commentary to the verses, and not just spewing verses like a vomiting preist, I thought that maybe someone was a bit quick-to-the-blow with calling someone a "preacher". So, yeah, I've gotten weird responses in my experiences. I'm like "can't get smmashed tonight, I have to go to church tomorrow morning." And they go "Well la de da, choir boy. We didn't ask to be preached to. Now you'll tell US how awful we are, how we're damned to burn in hell, huh?" So, yeah, I get odd stuff sometimes. I just got done tossing back a few beers, so I'm far from holy myself. Anyways, my point is two-fold: Don't get too riled up over this stuff. If I wanted to convert you, I'm much more direct. I've been doing it for years, and you would know. And don't think you can surprise me. I've got many fun filled stories to tell you about a one-armed atheist who is simply very, very amusing with his arguments. So nothing against one-armed people or atheists, but if you think you can get my eyebrows raised to the roof, you'll have to outdo this guy. Man, I'm basically rolling on the floor laughing over some of his arguments. Atheists make good arguments, but not this guy. But I'll leave it drop, and make another post shortly. Hey, I'll be gone for a month, have to get my commentary in, right? _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. This comment was edited by Ulic Belouve on Jun 06 2003 01:46am. |
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Bandit - Student
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Man...some people are a bit sensitive... I wan't accusing you of proselytizing. I simply stated that a bible verse thread was better than a thread that proselytizes. In fact, I thought it was great that you stated here is not the place to discuss such matters. I'm not sure why you feel this was a personal attack on you..it wasn't. Perhaps my choice of words was poor, but as one who is inundated and saturatd by religious influence (in the bible belt), I expreseed my opinion that the thread should not change course but stay on topic of bible verses. While not a Christian, or even religous, I found the bible verse thread interesting...much as I would a thread on favorite quotes in general. Not because of what the quote espouses, but because of what it reveals about the person who posted it. I'm not trying to obfuscate my views, rather I am trying to clarify my intent of what I posted. Hopefully, you don't feel this was an attack on you as it was not meant to be. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) This comment was edited by Bandit on Jun 05 2003 11:45pm. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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Hey, if you're gonna call this a proselytizing thread, then I'll proselytize. But merely stating that I do lead groups (to help out someone who migh have further inquiries), and then contributing to the Bible verse thread, with slight commentary, is not proselytizing. I'm welcome to say "my door is open" and I'm welcome to comment on a verse. But if you really want to see what proselytizing is, go ahead, and I'll show you. It is much more than what you have seen now. So watch what you call this. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Bandit - Student
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Eek! The bible verse thread was better than a proselytizing thread. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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Well, Monty, I'll place out a littel comment to everyone. This is the "Bible verses" thread. Not the "I want to debate with you and make you belive, damnit!" thread. And some make commentary on Bible verses, that's fine. But let's not debate whether someone has the right to think what they do. Monty can e-mail me if he wants. For the record, I run a Christian group, I am one of the leaders. I am also the National Representative for a Lutheran group. Really, if you have something to ask, I can put you in touch with anyone that might aid you. That being said, I'd love to reply to you here, as would others, but this is not the place. We debate, someone gets riled, and we all the the snot beat out of us. So Monty knocked it off track a bit. Keep it on track and don't debate here. And for a Bible verse, some discussion: "He was moved with compassion for them, and healed their sick." Matthew 14:14 NKJV Matthew writes that Jesus “healed their sick.” Not some of their sick. Not the righteous among the sick. Not the deserving among the sick. But “the sick.” Surely, among the many thousands, there were a few people unworthy of good health. The same divinity that gave Jesus the power to heal also gave him the power to perceive. . . I wonder if Jesus was tempted to say to the bigot, “Get out of here, buddy, and take your arrogance with you.” And he could see not only their past, he could see their future. Undoubtedly, there were those in the multitude who would use their newfound health to hurt others. Jesus released tongues that would someday curse. He gave sight to eyes that would lust. He healed hands that would kill. Each time Jesus healed, he had to overlook the future and the past. Something, by the way, that he still does. _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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Monteeeeeee - Nugget 
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no offense how can u believe in someone that does so little, if something good happens its GODS WILL and if something bad happens its... GOD MOVES IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS! << bullsh!t im afraid no god would take a brother away from u when u are 6 and ur brother is 13!! so im afriad i have lost all faith in this so called GOD! and im affriad nothin will change my mind! say wot u please but dont hate me for my beliefs! _______________ If you add me to MSN, tell me who you are
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Bandit - Student 
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Genesis 12:12 And God's voice filled the heavens saying, "ShadowSith, I command you to take Bandit as your padawan, before I smite Thee", and ShadowSith relented and made Bandit his Padawan. God looked on and saw that it was good. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) This comment was edited by Bandit on Jun 05 2003 05:23am. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Matthew 10:24-25 “A disciple is not greater than his teacher, nor a slave greater than his master. It is enough for the disciple to become like his teacher, and the slave like his master." _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Ulic Belouve - Student
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I'll add one of my favorites, just to keep this near the top of the forum: Job 4:3-6 "See, you have instructed many; you have strengthened weak hands. Your words have supported those who were stumbling, and you have made firm the feeble knees. But now trouble has come to you, and you are impatient; it touches you and you are dismayed. Is not your fear of God your confidence, and the integrity of your ways your hope?" Really, I hope this thread helps out with Bible verses. There's just some nifty stuff in there, even som funny versus if you take them out of context, like Isaiah 4:1a "Seven women shall take hold of one man in that day" Good stuff, eh? _______________ Jedi do not fight for peace. That's only a slogan, and is as misleading as slogans always are. Jedi fight for civilization, because only civilization creates peace. |
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