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DJ Sith - Jedi Council  |
You all know our server situation. Mine will be gone soon, and I'd like to get a dedicated CTF server to hold CTF class on. The problem is these servers and their bandwidth all cost money. I've sent a request to the jkii.net staff to post news asking for help with this.
If nothing comes through I'd like your ideas on this: opening a JA store. Theres a company called Cafepress (http://www.cafepress.com) that can put a JPEG logo on anything from T-shirts to mousepads to lunchboxes to boxers to steins to even thongs and sell it online for you. There's no cost to open one of these stores, and they handle all the shipping. 100% of the proceeds from this would go toward the cost of maintaining servers. If we get servers donated to us then we would use the money toward buying tournament prizes (yeah real honest to goodness prizes  ).
Here's my reservations: 1) Would people avctually buy this stuff? Alot of you guys are kids w/o the means. 2) Would it be enough to pay for servers? I have a friend here in Dallas who works for a colocation company. They give big big discounts for hosting for non profit orgs like us iun exchange for their logo on our site somewhere (preferably next to gamecity's) What are your thoughts on the idea? Theres no risk in opening the store since theres no capital required to do it. It can only serve to make some money, I just want to know if it's all worth it or not to go through with all this. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. This post was edited by DJ Sith on Jan 22 2003 12:34am. |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Arcuss - Student 
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This is why I love you DJ, you give and give without any thought of return.
Ok. I'm glad you posted this because I've been thinking about it ever since you brought it up on irc. The store is a cool idea,and I'd be good for a rodentpad and a T for the kido. However, I think the novelty would wear off too quickly to sustain a monthly revenue. The base prices are high enough, and to make profit for server fees you'd have to tack a couple of extra bucks on top of that. The real winners here would be cafepress. I know you don't like the idea of donations, but just hear me out on this. We have a roster of 1500+, maybe half of which is active. So if members were to donated 1$ a month it would make for a very large server fund. Even if only half of the active members donated we still have more than enough for several servers. Why stop at a CTF server wouldn't it be cool to have a dueling only server as well? HELL YEAH!!! Any money that is collected above the monthly server fees can be put into a slush fund for tourney prizes and the like. Just imagine the prizes you could afford if all active members donated just 1$. Can any one say AlienWare.
I honestly don't think 12$ a year is asking too much. I mean it is the least I can do in return for all the time and effort that others put into keeping this place running. For people like me that don't have any helpful skills to contribute, this is a great way for us to show appreciation, and help insure the longevity of this truly special community. Is any one else feeling me on this? Am I the only crazy fool who would gladly lay down a measly 12$ a year to help the Academy out? For some reason I think the answer to my second question is no. I only have one more question then I'll close. Where do I send the check? :arcuss: This comment was edited by Arcuss on Jan 22 2003 04:23pm. |
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Sniya - Student 
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O.K. dj avoid lunch boxes thier only cool if your eight,the tea mugs(oh i love tea but thats another story)and t-shirt are a good idea BUT get a cool academy logo,it will sell much better if you can actully see yourself walking out in public with it on and even better if its cool to wear.
Remember the golden rule to marketing reward the consumer.
And as for sponser ship as long as we dont have to fill the page with a wall paper sised ad i dont mind.I read an article about associate programes,my non-techie friend found success with amazon associates.It works by you say the amazon things you want to sell in your litttle amazon shop and when someone buys summit through your link on your site they give u 8%,10% for books.Its totaly idiot proof i could make money from it _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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JAcen LW Solo - Retired 
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w00t! I bet those T-shirst saying "JA students do it better" will sell like crazy.
- Jace _______________ "Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I shall fear no evil .For I am the baddest mofo in the valley" |
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Mune - Student 
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I this store is an excellent idea. I would indeed by everything I see that interests me... Good idea.
Wheee!!! _______________ Captain Barkeep. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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My game server is also my LAN file, web, print, mail, etc server. I can't easily part with that. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Sared - Retired 
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And Dammit! I want some JA boxers!  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Sared - Retired 
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Once you think about it, its not that much. I mean, if EVERYBODY gave a dollar or so toward a 'server fund' then we would be covered for the better part of a year. You said your friend could get the colocation but you have to supply the box? Why don't you just give him yours since your server is going to be going down anyways? _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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that's a cool idea... although i don't think it would be enough. see, servers are barefaced expensive (well some... 60 POUNDS a month!).
why not try to get a sponsor or more commercials? see, if you'd go to a small company or something, you could ell them about 1700 members and they all want to look at their company's logo... for only some money each month. why not over to change the levelshot? everyone would watch their logo everytime he connects! count you server hits and tell them... they cant say no _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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CoRRUPTioN - Ex-Student 
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Meh dont like emails talk in person better ill find dj when hes on, its not a n00b server hosten on some 56k its from a proper server provider in uk _______________ - CoRRUPTioN |
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doobie - Jedi Council 
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corruption, email fixtheja@hotmail.com with your server info... uk servers are great _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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Johnnyrico - Student 
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good idea but its better if we get the donated server. i'll try to ask someone for a server. grr i had t1 or somtin _______________ ...... |
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[*LOW*]J-Wolf - Ex-Student ![[*LOW*]J-Wolf](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=57&f_height=70&f_image=j-wolf.jpg&f_odd=1)
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Dj the Shop is a great idea but unfortuatly i won't be able to buy anything  but i still say go ahead cos u can't lose on it
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Torwi Nibos - Ex-Student 
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I have actually built a cafepress store or two in the pass, and made some money from them - it is a great idea - I would support it to keep the JA experience alive. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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yeah, as with notcpa.org, they have 2 companies that ship their stuff....
_______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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CoRRUPTioN - Ex-Student
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How about a sponsor? What could the JA give a sponsor if they provided us with a server. Can a JAC post back soon as i might have a solution, will be a UK server tho. _______________ - CoRRUPTioN |
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CoRRUPTioN - Ex-Student 
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Good ideas Donataions are kewl but with the the admin abuse n such forth, if ppl are all paying for a bit of server n some ****er comes on and starts laming one of those paying customers, well imagin ide be pritty ****ed _______________ - CoRRUPTioN |
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Lord Exar Kun - Student 
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well, it doesnt hurt to try right? Though I don't think you'll make much money out of it, at least not enough to maintain the servers.
PS, if there'e gonna be a nice logo, can I design it? NC does a lot with logos as well, maybe we could work together....just a thought. _______________ -Retired april the 19th 2004 This comment was edited by Lord Exar Kun on Jan 22 2003 09:48am. |
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doobie - Jedi Council
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fyi, international shipping through cafepress is "only" $7 for the first item and $4 for each additional item... i don't know much about international shipping, but that doesn't sound too shabby _______________ -Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament -I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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ooooo...I have tons of ideas for this. I will talk to you and the rest of the Council about it.. _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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weeeeeeee i want the mug!!
sounds great i would probably buy every single item in the store... hehe and hide it somewhere in the depths of my closet but still..
and donations... sure i'll donate, the academy is well worth it. but i have no clue about prices or servers or anything like that so i'll shut up now and let you do the work...  _______________ make install -not war |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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The only problem I see is localised distribution.
worldwide shipping is expensive. PPl like us over here in good'ol Europe pay a lot, and if you don't have couple of JAS next door the shipping fees cost about the same amount as the goods you're actually buying. But there are several companies like this, maybe you could team them up to achieve optimal global coverage
edit: And, yes, I'd actually buy some stuff hee hee _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" This comment was edited by Fizz of Belouve on Jan 22 2003 03:48am. |
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Kit Fisto [JAP] - Ex-Student ![Kit Fisto [JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=69&f_height=70&f_image=lord_ocp.jpg&f_odd=1)
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Wooow. I think it's a great idea !! I would order a mug and a t-shirt and ....
Really Dj...it sounds cool to me !! I'm also prepared to donate, np !!! Kit  |
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Acey Spadey - Student 
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Wow, sick as, i would by a T-shirt or Mug. and i dunno if you want ideas for the Tournament prizes, but i guess you could make up persanlised lightsabers for the winners, all you really need is a metal worker to make something up. no major pricing there, and i'm sure hobby shots would have what you needed for them _______________ .Lag Bro to Xanatos. Adopted Twin to Bubu. Big-Brother to SmilyKrazy ---- JATSRAD Guru, JASE Member, JA SP Mod Staff ---- The Order of the Stick -- Big thanks to Mango for my avatar -- Quote: Sometimes you've got to specifically go out of your way to get into trouble. It's called fun.
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ioshee - Student 
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Get something for our money? What do you call the every thing we get at the Academy? No I like the fact that the Academy it free.
Ok how bout this: You get everything else in line and get me a coffe mug and then you can charge me rent on the coffee mug for $20 a month. _______________ One of the Belouve boys This comment was edited by ioshee on Jan 22 2003 01:51am. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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I need to follow up with my friend but I may be able to get colocation for < $20/month.. of course I have to provide the server for that and don't have the spare parts to build one. I've seen prices for game servers flaoting around like $60/month.
edit: I also don't like the idea of donations. I feel you should get something for your money. That and I want a JA coffee mug. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. This comment was edited by DJ Sith on Jan 22 2003 12:47am. |
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