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Cloaked Thunder - Student  |
Well, lemme first off say that the JA's JK3 server is the worst server for random hits and weird damage. A setting that brings back the JK2 aspect on dueling. Here is the quote by DS. "A new setting that brings certain JK2 behaviors back to JKA. This setting does the following: Auto block is back!! If you stand with your saber in a ready position it will block incoming attacks and the other guys saber will bounce off). Burn rate baby!!! Yes thats right.. if you hit someone it will burn.. if you walk up to them and stick your saber tip in them it will burn 1 hp per second... oh ya!! Finally... last but not least.. no more damage variance.. thats right.. blue hits yellow hits... red hits... dual hits.. staff hits will ALWAYS do the same amount of damage... no matter where you hit... " d_saberGhoul2Collision "0" (default: 1) This setting disables Ghoul2. (it was disabled by default in JK2). When Ghoul2 is disabled, JKA players have better saber control and reaction time, which is most noticeable with single saber. This setting also gives single saber a better fighting chance in the weaker stances (blue and yellow) against the dual sabers or staff. Hit detection seems more accurate (less sabers passing through your enemy without doing damage). d_saberSPStyleDamage "0" (default: 1) This setting disables the JKA Single Player Style Damage settings. This changes reverts JKA saber/damage behavior back to that of JK2. Autoblock (when in ready position) is once again enabled. Burn rate i.e. walking up to someone and putting a saber in them does 1hp damage per second. Damage is once again consistant, the amount of damage done by a hit is specific to the style/stance and move you use. *note* Beware, this setting greatly increases Backstab and Roll Stab damage.. If someone rolls at you keep out of reach and counter any stabs to discourge abuse posted http://www.bladeworks.net/articles.php?id=2 And that is the truth guys i've experienced this first hand and it does work and it's awesome. I'm not sure if the JAC's wanna change this setting because i've heard that some ppl want it as close as retail as they can get. IMHO the retail settings BLOW!!!!!!!  I've had a one swipe from staff kill me numerous times when I use single saber on the JA jk3 server. omfgh4x! that sucks. If ya wanna see the setting first hand then go to any server in your server list that has an @BWN after the name. example: jediservers.com @ BWN. They are all duel servers though. What do you guys think?_______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom  | woot! This post was edited by Cloaked Thunder on Oct 06 2003 08:55pm. |
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For the masses of the JA, Vote please! Let every1 know how ya feel!
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Carve - Student 
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I fully agree with JACen's post. It's a matter of adjustment. Note how a huge majority of the players who could be considered 'excellent' in JK3 were also that way in JK2.. the reason isn't because their style carried over, but because their adaptability did. I also agree with the thought that the servers should be kept as close to the latest patched retail version as possible. Surely we all remember the purpose of this Academy (beyond the camaraderie of course), and that is to be able to apply the knowledge we have gained here to the servers abroad. Yes, we have all been victims of 100-damage staff hits, but so have the staffers been victim of 300-damage red hits. 0:-) And let us not forget the 100+ damage downhack from jk2. Another observation I've made is that most of the people who dislike the new jk3 saber system appear to spend very little time getting used to it (i.e. not spending much time on the servers). It -does- take getting used to. But have faith... the Force is with us all. Good luck. :-) Edit: Since my voting option wasn't mentioned above... consider my vote to be "I am satisfied with the current game settings." _______________ © This comment was edited by Carve on Dec 10 2003 12:48am. |
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Chainer - Ex-Student 
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o and if u need some good dueling for a while come to jk2 i get very lonely =) (gettin jk3 for chrtistmas) |
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Chainer - Ex-Student 
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i think or so ive herd that the saber dmg is way to high do the servers run it low as possible to try to correct this problem till they get a patch? but ghoul2 was always hated on even though it made the fights more "like the movies" it was just weird i htink ghoul should be put to a vote |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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gawd ppl, I'm talking about making it *like* the stability of jk2 and the solidity of the hits and damage. I'm not saying make it *exactly like* jk2.  _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Wolfwood - Student 
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And make the game like jk2? why do you think they call it jk3? _______________ ~ Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead ~ |
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CuZzA - Student 
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BRING BACK THE SETTINGS FROM JK2! _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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demiurgi - Student 
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i think is pointless trying to make this game like jk2.. these type of "improvements" on rare servers will only make it more difficult to master the sabering art in jk ja. these type of adjustments will never come universal... play the game like it was ment to be played.. of course any suggestions and ideas are more than welcome in www.ravengames.com since they listen their fans and try to improve the game the best way they can... _______________ no pain, no gain. |
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JAcen LW Solo - Retired 
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Humm, yeah I do think the default settings blow. But, I also think that we are too attached to the JK2 fighting system. I look at th eposts under and I see exactly the same speech that I saw when th elast JK2 patch came out and the ppl that depended on the 1.03 fighting system went nuts. I have the game since monday and I've basicly been pounded since them by peeps spaming the same moves on double and dual saber over and over again. I also think that the saber movement lost it's realism and 1 hit killes done wiht random moves blow. But remember , this is a school. Whats the point on training ppl on one system and then they go out in a public server and get royaly wooped ? We will end up having aa closed comunity full of JK2 adicts. Just like the present JK2 1.3 patch comunity. Ever visited one of their servers ? Full of oldtimers pull backstabing eachother. Now we have solutions to this: 1- Raven patches these problems 2- The JK comunity refuses these settings and starts using alternatives like CT suggested. If these are used by the majority of the community then we can use them by default. 3- We set up a server with the alternative settings and teach both styles Now, although I suck I'm getting better and I'm not giving up on the new style just yet. I've seen ppl successeefuly fighting dual and double saber spamers with single saber and winning on a regular base. Hey carve was wooping butt on home server yesterday, using oldstyle only. I've also learned a couple of ways to counter the new moves. For those that weren'te around when JK2 came out. A duel consisted on dfa, lunge and BS spaming. Duels lasted 30 seconds and half of them were 1 or 2 hits kills. Why ? Because ppl didn't know how to counter, fighting techniques were not developed, etc. And most important it needed patching. Ppl would hit you with a simple dfa and you wouldn't move because you were too n00b to take a simple sidestep and lunge. Same applys for the new Katas and spamed moves.We just need to learn how to counter them. Summary. The present fighting system defenitly needs patching but the biggest problem is that ppl are in denial. Pppl refuse to face the fact that although they were good at JK2 they are n00bs at JK3. Anyway thats my opinion. Doesn't necessary have to be the truth. _______________ "Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death, I shall fear no evil .For I am the baddest mofo in the valley" |
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Mace Windu - Retired 
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Ok CT. _______________ -Mace Windu "When a fool says something foolish, do not answer the fool." -Windu To Vladarion, though I know you are in a better place - it makes me shake to think that you are not awake - when I think about you it makes me smile - i know you have gone into the clouds to head for heavens gates - you have changed my life - in an incredible way - and so I say thank you - may you rest in peace |
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aph3x - Retired 
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JASE huh? hmm. i've been trying to keep it real @ JA servers but like....i dunno how much more of this i can take. the majority of my time in-game is spent jumping around like a madman...partially cause the dueling sUX and partially cause i hate waiting for an open duel slot. =/ is there a passwd for the jase server? oh...hey aphex why dont you goto the website. good idea. k |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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Mace, the JASE jk3 server has them. _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Mace Windu - Retired 
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What servers have these type of settings so that I can try it? _______________ -Mace Windu "When a fool says something foolish, do not answer the fool." -Windu To Vladarion, though I know you are in a better place - it makes me shake to think that you are not awake - when I think about you it makes me smile - i know you have gone into the clouds to head for heavens gates - you have changed my life - in an incredible way - and so I say thank you - may you rest in peace |
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Bandit - Student 
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I haven't had a chance to test it yet, really. I kinda got a few duels in...it did seem *LOTS* better. I'll be testing it out more this weekend. From what little I did see though, it seemed to make a big difference. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student
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*bump* So have you guys tested it for yourselves? If so please leave feedback so everyone can see. I think it's great, makes things looootttssss better as of right now. _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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YinYang - Ex-Student 
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Hrmmm I gotta drop by the server and check this out cause I get SUPER angry when I get killed in 1 shot with 100/100 and then told oh yea ive been perfecting my technique..... SORRY not on normal attacks _______________ Sister to Smily,Axion,and CT Friend to ALL... SMILY, LUKE,MAGRA,AND KOYI RULE!!!!! . . : :There is ALWAYS 2 Yin and Yang , Good and Evil: : . . |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Ooooh this seems interesting, if it is as good as you truly say it is, it'll be interesting to see how the community takes to this as at least a temporary solution to a patch. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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How is the JASE server looking? If its going super spandex wonderful we may change our config. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student
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ok guys as of 6am GMT the JASE server has the aforementioned setting enabled. There is countering and blocking now along with a pretty good amount of damage issues resolved, well except for roll stab and back swing. But anyways, feel free to stop by and have a duel or 3 and see what ya think. bawk bawk chicken head! _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Bandit - Student
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I'm all for trying out the new settings... I hope yellow single has some sort of use again... Edited to add: CT Rocks! _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) This comment was edited by Bandit on Oct 07 2003 12:37am. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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New settings are loaded. Testing Time. If someone wants to help test and feedback, please use the JASE Forums. Thanks. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. This comment was edited by DaRtH-MoBiLiTy on Oct 08 2003 09:24pm. |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student
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We are going to put those settings mentioned above on the JASE jk3 server for those who would like to test it and see. Come join us. _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Buzz - Student 
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What I don't like is how a simple regular hit from staff can knock you down 50hp. But a rdfa doesn't even knock out full shields. Also the almost certain chance of death from the specials on staff and duals. Honestly the damage from staff and duals should be exactly the same as medium saber stance. The advantage in them should be the fact that you have TWO saber blades. Not that the hits do more damage, but that you have a better chance of causing more hits. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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JP - Academy Pimp 
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I've had the pleasure to play on the BWN servers with CT and i think ive been on the JA server once, since then, the retail blows and ruins the game, these quick settings makes the game much more enjoyable, good work CT! _______________ Come on now, every Generation X boy wanted to be Luke Skywalker. Is it because he was a whiney farm boy from some backwater hack planet? No, it's because he was a FREAKING JEDI. He could block lasers with his lightsaber. He could levitate droids & rocks & crap with his mind. Come on, he choked two pig dudes with just a simple gesture. He cut off Darth Vader's hand and kicked him down a flight of stairs. He got his @$$ zapped by lightning from the geezer Emperor, stood up and said "s'at all you got b!tc#??" |
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Jello` - Student 
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This is not going to happen. You know how long Jake has been complaining (well, asking ) The JACs to enable kill on the servers, and its just ONE simple cvar... I dont even want to know how long it will take them to change TWO!  _______________ Brady Brothers: Orion-Greg, Furi0us-Peter, Me-Bobby. Long lost cousin to Flash. Midbie Council #007. Ex-JAK. This comment was edited by Jello` on Oct 06 2003 10:18pm. |
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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After today, I'm all for this. I'm sick of one-hit kills. |
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