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(How) did Anakin bring the Force into balance?
Oct 17 2003 07:38pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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There has been a lot of discussion about this on the web and fansites, and stuff, so here:
How did you think Anakin brought the Force into balance?
Some people say it was because he killed the last two Sith alive.
Others say it was because he slaughtered the Jedi.
I say it was this:
He didn't only kill every Jedi, he also killed every Sith.
The universe would have to start all over again.
No Jedi... No Sith...
This would of course have a tremendous effect on the Jedi after this.
In the Old Republic, the Jedi were arrogant, because they thought they thought they were invincible.
Now they know they can very easy be destroyed
So that's why you have better Jedi, that are sure of themselves, but aren't overconfident.

And now an even bigger headbreaker:
Was Anakin supposed to go to the Dark Side? Was it meant to happen, or was it one of the possibilities that could happen?

I think he was supposed to go to the Dark Side, the Force had that in mind for him. Because, the way I look at it, the Jedi where arrogant and needed to be destroyed. They where to sure of themselves, according to Yoda. And they should be, because for over a thousand years, there were no enemies that could stand against a Jedi, so the Jedi became (in the eyes of the normal man) invincible. That's why when kids are trained to be a Jedi, they expect to be so powerful... Which brings arrogance, right?

So the Jedi that weren't arrogant (like Yoda, Echuu-Shen John) escape the slaughter miraculously :). But I'm still guessing why Obi-Wan was allowed to be alive. Was it because he had something to do in his life? Or maybe he had to set right a fault he once made?
And if you think he wasn't arrogant, then look at this: in Ep1 he said: "I am ready to face the trials". Arrogant, right?
In Ep1 he thought he was ready to take on a Padawan of his own. And he thought he could instruct him just as wel as master Yoda, very arrogant, right?

Anyway, post your comments on both these subjects :D
And feel free to give as lot of critiscism as you want :)
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This post was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Jun 24 2004 09:51pm.

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Jun 09 2004 02:44pm

KkF FREAKFISH
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k heres the bacon + sausages anikan didnt bring balance 2 da force becos luke survivedunless they call balance slayin NearlY every1...

Jun 09 2004 02:40pm

KkF FREAKFISH
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real soz bail deleted now :)

Jun 09 2004 11:54am

Caos
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Yer im goin wid he balanced by destroying the jedi and the sith because if thiers no one left then the whole thing would have to be satrted again and the next line of jedi would know that they can be defeated.:( ahhhh well it always happend that way CANT WEIGHT TIL Ep3
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Jun 07 2004 05:59pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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C3-PO, please keep all sexual talk and sexual references out of the forums please... it's just not appropriate
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Jun 06 2004 08:28am

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thing is he didnt eliminate both sith+jedi because luke lived:) even if he did C-3P0 would become a jedi muahahaha

This comment was edited by KkF FREAKFISH on Jun 06 2004 08:29am.

May 30 2004 12:55am

Rogue
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I would love to bro but I dont remember how i figured it out lol I spent a good hour doing it though lol
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May 29 2004 07:43pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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would you mind elaborating on that Rogue?:P
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May 29 2004 05:29pm

Rogue
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it was Luke
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May 29 2004 01:48am

lasarus
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Of course Anakin was the one to bring balance to the force. If he didn't, why would he be figuring in all six movies? He is the most imprtant peson in the Galaxy during his life. The same kind of reasoning leads to that Anakin turning to the dark side is of utmost imprtance (why else would there be three movies describing how it happened?).

But this was just a thought that came to me as I wrote. The reason i really posted was to say that I think that Obi-Wan might have been a bit arrogant, but with his padawan turning to the dark side and all, Old Ben Kenobi has leaned a lesson or two from Humbleton school of un-arrogance...

In fact you cant get much more a true jedi than the old Obi-Wan (once he stops hiding that is), except for maybe Qui-Gon Jinn.

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May 06 2004 09:19pm

Demo Strike
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He brang balance by having his child Luke.
This is what I have always believed.

May 05 2004 11:11pm

Padawan
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What gets me is that, although in E1 the Jedi weren't aware of a Sith presence, they thought that Anakin woudld bring balance to the force. It sounds stupid, but perhaps they expected him to become a Sith, which would, as they thought then, bring balance. After all, if there can only be 2 Sith at any one time, surely they would be no match for a council and more of Jedi? Meh, just a thought.

Anyway, I reckon that Anakin brung balance to the force when he killed Palpatine. When you think about it, if say, you take the 'balance' as equal amounts of Jedi and Sith, all equally powerful, there would be eternal conflict, and, in my opinion, people being killed, manipulated and fighting, isn't a balance. Therefore, by killing Palpatine (after turning back to the Light side) balance was brung in a sense that only Jedi were left. Therefore no more conflict in the Force. However, if the Sith had wiped out the Jedi, there would still be conflict in the Force, as it surrounds us all (only Jedi/Sith are trained to use and feel it). Therefore, if people were still being slaughtered, etc, by the Sith, the force would be being disturbed.

EDIT: Ahh yes, and, reading another topic about Anakin's father, it would make sense that he was meant to turn Sith if his father was teh Force, as if the Force seeks to balance itself it would pump him full of hate to begin with, ensuring that he does eventually become Sith.

EDIT 2 (lol): But then again, it could have simply been a vague path that he would bring balance, and that therefore no-one knew how, and that the Coucil expected him to become powerful and remain on the Light side and kill the remaining Sith as a true Jedi. Dam, if I don't stop thinking I'll never get to sleep :/.

This comment was edited by Padawan on May 05 2004 11:29pm.

Apr 23 2004 01:24pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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no it was anakin some should bring balance to the force i know it i have heard it
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Apr 23 2004 10:50am

Narcost
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 Narcost

allright, you are right, you could ofcource then take all dark powers and still be light, then you have the good thoughts..
but you NEED those darksides becouse of the balance. you cant balance it by choosing dark forcepowers, you need the dark ones in order to balance the whole thing. otherwise light would remain the most powerfull, so no balance.
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This comment was edited by Narcost on Apr 23 2004 10:53am.

Apr 21 2004 12:48pm

DJK
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I'm with bail on this one:)
But to be honest i just think that luke was the one to bring balance hehe.:)

Apr 21 2004 12:40pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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w00tt
someone agrees with me!! :P
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Apr 21 2004 11:12am

Lord Jaws
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No NarCosT, couse the dark side is all evil, it's the moral and idea's of the Dark Side that are bad. Luke uses for example choke, to get to his rightfull means, and Vader used it to kill them for their errors, there is a difference, and so I agree with mr. Bail....Luke PWND VADER!
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Apr 20 2004 10:31pm

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well he used choke because they where evil pigs and jabba was one of the most evil
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Apr 20 2004 08:21pm

Narcost
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yes, i totaly agree with Daidalus. Luke was the one that brought the balance. the only thing that Ani did in balancing was making luke (he did have the best part:P). only after Luke combined the two sides of the force there was balance.
another thing then, in JK:JA luke keeps on pushing you to the light side.. everyone is.. and it is wrong if you turn dark.. if he is so into balance shouldnt he be glad you turn to the dark side because there are already so many lighty's?

greetz,

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Apr 20 2004 07:09pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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no, he used choke...
I agree with that actually.

Remember what Kyle Katarn said:

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Apr 20 2004 06:34pm

Plo Koon
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luke wont use choke!

he just waves the axes back and pushes them against the wall
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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Apr 20 2004 06:34pm.

Apr 19 2004 10:26pm

Lord Jaws
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Admid ure wrong, yahhhh come on!
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Apr 19 2004 06:37pm

Plo Koon
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i dont think its choke i think he ust pushes them back,there so fat and short it looks like there grabbing there throats but its really there chest
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Apr 19 2004 03:26pm

Jippie Phoenix
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Luke uses choke woah didn't know that but didhe bring balance and not his father:P
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Apr 19 2004 11:11am

Lord Jaws
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Plo, Luke uses choke in RotJ, on those pig-thingies, when they blocking his path.
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Apr 19 2004 02:52am

Daidalus[JAP] Fisto
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"he could be the one who brings balance to teh force!"
that includes that there is NO balance in the force before he showed up. but: didnt yoda himself said that there wasnst any dark-force activity since thousands of years? and dont mean balance that the dark side is as strong as the light side? well if that is true, it would mean, that all jedi are idiots. becouse they want balance in a univerce where they are the stronger enforcement. maybe my logic is still cprappy wrong, but it sounds good to me.... maybe he is not the chosen one, maybe luke is the one who brings balance after everything was taken over by the dark side....

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