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Sared - Retired  |
Does anyone else think that this 'unofficial padawans' thing is getting out of hand? This is supposed to be a community, where anyone can learn from anyone, not bind themselves to a Master. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This post was edited by Sared on Oct 22 2003 02:25pm. |
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n00b - Student 
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Maybe with the surge of new people in the academy due to JK3, more Knights and Trainers could be created to fill the need. That is, if the lag problem ever gets fixed  _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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I agree, bro, BS/BB galore ! but well, what is the upper managements view about unofficial paddies with [JAP] tag ? _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Sared - Retired 
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I completely agree that the BB/BS program could cover this area. I can argue FOR paddys and such from the Roleplaying view, yet from the same viewpoint I can argue that 'real' Jedi Masters that took on padawans earned the right to call themselves Jedi Knights and to take resposibility for a Padawan. Again, BB/BS would be an awesome program to have.  _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Khalek[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Khalek[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=50&f_image=4155.jpg&f_odd=1)
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Fair enough - I see where you're coming from now  Okey dokey  _______________ Brother to HW and Kyp Durron, padawan of the almiiiighty NFF. Traitor to the family and keeper of the LOLlipops (poisoned and otherwise). Jello's unwanted second cousin. Vladarion's moral lesser http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty... This one's for Jacen... http://www.bash.org/?7838
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Buzz - Student 
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The BB/BS program could do a lot of that Khalek. But it still lacks that Jedi Role Playing element of calling someone master or padawan. So get it going and it will be great but don't expect it to eliminate unofficial masters and padawans _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I reckon its a good idea, like DJ said not everyoone can make classes, and one on one teaching and learning is better than in groups, especially if you get to know the person as well. I'll take this moment to advertise as well I'm looking for a new JKII padawan, possibly a little JK:JA (not enough is known about it yet to fully teach all the odds and ends) _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Khalek[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Khalek[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=50&f_image=4155.jpg)
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True true....but the BB\BS program could do all of that _______________ Brother to HW and Kyp Durron, padawan of the almiiiighty NFF. Traitor to the family and keeper of the LOLlipops (poisoned and otherwise). Jello's unwanted second cousin. Vladarion's moral lesser http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty... This one's for Jacen... http://www.bash.org/?7838
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Some people don't benefit from class learning. Some folks need one on one and we only have so many JAK/T/C's laying about. So we have unofficial masters. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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well, u're right bubu. I got him wrong.. hehe erm guys, the "trial" Sared was talking about is the JAK trial lol..... and thats official enough for me well as I see it, theres nothing wrong with some training, or unofficial paddyness. just if its not official, just keep it secret as well _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Cloaked Thunder - Student 
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Well i think that having unofficial paddys is cool. I had an unofficial master for awhile and he taught me lots. He had his own personal tag and called it a trainning partner tag. If anyone remembers, it was the [MOP] tag. He didn't boast his paddys, but rather taught them all he knew and went on to others that wanted to learn. Simple as that. I like the role of unofficial master/ unofficial paddy. It brings a star war aspect into the trainning that IMO is pretty special and makes things enjoyable. To note, I also think it makes for great friendships. I took on a paddy a few months back, i didn't tell lots of people but only those that asked, we trained, we became friends, still are to this day. whaaa la! I personally don't like listing all paddys and such in sigs, it kinda makes ya seem boastful when someone does this. But is not that big of a deal. peace, beans and chicken grease! _______________ Padawan of ShadowSith | Close JA Family: Darth Mobility, Katan, Jedi Prodigy, Virtue,D@rth M@ul, Virtue, Flash, Bandit, Yin Yang, JK-XIII, Faded, Silk Monkey, Skyler, `Orion, Aratan, SmilyKrazy, Faded Angel, and your mom | woot!
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Buzz - Student
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Really I don't see a problem with students having eachother for masters or padawans and I don't really think there should be a test for it either. They're unofficial padawans in the eyes of the academy. You give them a test and it becomes some type of an official aspect. The master and padawan I think comes more out of the star wars role playing influence. People are going to want to use these because it brings them into a role more like the Jedi the game is based off of. Think of it like a high school. If you are the smartest student in the class and you help out some of your friends in learning, that doesn't make you a teacher, or even an official tutor in the eyes of the school. But to the people you're helping you are a teacher or a tutor. You didn't need any special certification for that. I've never been one for liking them listing who's their unofficial padawan or master in their profile or signatures, but hey you can't have everything your way. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. This comment was edited by Buzz on Oct 22 2003 09:27pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I've thought long and hard about it (for about five minutes )and I think it should be like this There should be a new tag, for people that have passed the trials to take on unoffical padawans Don't know what, but it should be something And the test should be organized by other students (under the disguise of newbies )to test the teacher and how he explains their succeeding (or not succeeding) depends greatly on what the "newbies" have to say about him. And I would have at least ONE Knight/Trainer/Jedi Master/Council member attending the class, to make it a bit more official I don't know about you, but I want to be one of the newbies:d I'll write the evaluations, if you like (not that anyone is going to let me ) _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Sared - Retired
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Kalhek and Bail have pretty much hit the nail on the head. Corran has as well, if someone if going to start taking Padawans, then they need to pass a test of sorts. (I think they call that a 'Trial' around here. ) edit:// Jonny got it too, Training Partners would be a great way to go. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. This comment was edited by Sared on Oct 22 2003 07:24pm. |
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..PJ.. - Student 
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I think the sort of "training partners" thing was quite good. It wasn't an "official" thing, but it was sorta around.......... _______________ JK2 pwnz0rs JK3. |
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Khalek[JAP] - Ex-Student
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I think it would be better if all the unofficial masters went into the BB\BS program, once it starts.... It's pretty much the same thing, but with the implied idea (what Sared is perhaps getting at, correct me if wrong) that the participant is neither a master nor the fount of all truth. *cashes in his 2 gold dubloons* _______________ Brother to HW and Kyp Durron, padawan of the almiiiighty NFF. Traitor to the family and keeper of the LOLlipops (poisoned and otherwise). Jello's unwanted second cousin. Vladarion's moral lesser http://www.crazyfray.co.uk/home.htm - major update coming soon, yeah right.... £3.00 to be pledged so far to the JA fund... Just type PLEDGE ME UP KHALEK in any interesting post, and if it passes the funkolology test, 50p goes in the kitty... This one's for Jacen... http://www.bash.org/?7838
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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fizz i think you misunderstood him. i think sared is opposed to the idea of unofficial padawanship. but anyway, sared, there is nothing wrong with it i think. it's just giving a name to something that is going on anyway. _______________ make install -not war |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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yes, Corran Horn, I agree with you _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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TK-9143 - Ex-Student 
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i think that students should be able to take official padawans. they would have to take a test before hand though... _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try." - Master Yoda Master to two young padawan learners, '[SL]Ragnous' and 'The Guardian' |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I agree, it is a very good way to learn new stuff and tactics I agree, I really do but, if you take a padawan, while you're still a student, then you're not a master, so don't act like one... Well... Kind of hard to explain what I mean I think I can best say it like this: it's not that you have a padawan (while being a student) that you immediatly have all the answers or something like that, or that you're suddenly the Master of the Muppets Ok, I'm going to shut up This is just how I feel though.... Feel free to disagree with me _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Roan Belouve - Retired 
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No body gets hurt so I see no problem. I think it's a nice way to form a connection with other students especially when you can't find an offical Master. If someone has felt they where excluded from an unofficial group whilst on the servers then that might raise an issue.  _______________ *Bro to Vaxxla,Padawan of FiZZandOdan-Wei Part of the mighty Belouve Dynasty-Knight of Nippledom.Twin of Selphestal!**Proud Master to Kaelis and Acura Friend to anyone who would call me the same . Pic by the amazing Majno (merry)
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D@RtHM@UL - Student 
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Good words Master FiZZ j/k |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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erm I fail to see the point for this post, bro learning by training with other guys is great, and being someone's padawan is an honor, but no neccessity. U can teach guys w/o being their "master" of course its cool if the all call u "master" but if u only do it for that, u're serioulsy wrong here. if u wanna improve, just chat up some other new students, or browse thru the profiles, to find someone in ur timezone or with similiar interests, that might help. The ideal Master is a RealLife (TM) friend/mate, too. Keep that in mind. - FiZZ of Belouve _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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I'd say this: the teaching eachother idea, is great That really helps, learned a lot from that But Padawans acting as Knights or Masters... It's just something I can't stand really, I can't _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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