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People leaving because of ragnos map
Oct 29 2003 12:12am

sharwyn
 - ex-Student
Some one I know it leaving because of the ragnos map

its not the fact that there is a *rude room* on the map, the person said that its the fact that people are going there when they are playing and are rubbing it in that persons face.

If u r on the map and are going to the room don't u can go to them room on a solo game SO STOP IT !!!!!!!!!!!!

And there should be some warning about the content within the map

People of the age of 10 play this game, I don’t think its right that they can see thing like that on a game like this, and I am angry that “The JA” hasn’t done any thing to try and fix the situation. Such as stop running the map until the problem is fixxed

GET THE MAP SORTED OUT SOON JA K/T/C please !


This post was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:45pm.

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Oct 29 2003 12:12am

Silent Whisper
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 Silent Whisper

I think everyone has made their opinions clear and before anymore hostility emerges I'm going to close the thread. The map clearly violates the rules of the JA and must be removed. Most of us don't have a problem with it but someone will, trust me. Let's all shake hands and walk our seperate ways.
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Oct 28 2003 11:19pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

well i've done what i needed too the map is being removed

TY good points from all

Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

Khalek[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Khalek[JAP]

Everyone stop a moment. Please.

If not, someone will post something they will regret.

I'm not even gonna post my opinion on this, it would inflame things...All I'm gonna do is provide info.

The person who has a problem with the map is being talked to on their profile right now, by thos ewho were there. Anni, we both know who we're talking about...I understand and appreciate that you are sticking up for an interpretation of the rules and the person involved, and that is fine...and good...but let's find out what he/she ;) says about that first. OK?

Please, I can't take anyone's right to speak away (nor would I want to...I could be wrong as usual) but I would ask everyone to think for one moment before posting more. Regardless of which side you take, everyone appreciates that this is a sensitive issue. To add to this could push things a little further. I know that the people here that have no problem with the map are not sick, twisted individuals (except Jacen...j/k;)), nor are the others being oversensitive...just different sides, k?

If you still feel bad about the map after the person involved has spoken, then talk to the JACs. That's your individual choice.

But this could turn nasty easily, and that ain't what the JA is about.

:)
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Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

errm how am i doing that
just saying i can't change ur views

Oct 28 2003 11:17pm

JAcen LW Solo
 - Retired
 JAcen LW Solo

Aight. That map being on JA servers is entirely my fault. Why?

1st - We don't have an official teaching map for the Academy yet. That was the best one that I know off to teach classes because it has a big room very similar to a class room and several small rooms that can be used for private teaching.

2nd - I did not know about that room until recently.

3rd - It is not porn. Yes I agree having a small room 4 pictures with half naked women it's not a good thing. But please don't call it porn or ppl will think there are pictures of explicit sex there.

Now that map is in Wireplay and in the Classes server for classes purposes. The room is hidden and plp do not respawn there or fall there by accident. They only go there because they want to.

Like I said that map is the best one for classes that I know off but if you find me a better one I'll remove it.

If someone is speaking in a maner that insults you please report that person as it is done on the other servers, thats not that samll room's fault.
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Oct 28 2003 11:16pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

So when the arguments fail we turn to personal attacks...nice
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Oct 28 2003 11:14pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

if that’s what u all think that’s what u all think

nothing i can do to change the up bringing of Prejudice within families

ok so the person who has a problem with this HAS A PROBLEM they just want attention

how... how not even goign to say what i'm thinking


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Oct 28 2003 11:09pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Im with Kyp on this. This all seems so pointless. Seriosly...if i didn't know better i would say that this thread was just made for the sake of complaining on something...anything at all really...

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Loosing respect because of a diffrence of opinion it pretty shallow...i must say...
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Oct 28 2003 11:08pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

i see no one sees where i'm coming from,
i really didn't think this would happen

i have lost respect for most of you

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Oct 28 2003 11:01pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

what freedom PRAY TELL

the freedom to look at wemon when playing a game?

This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 11:06pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:59pm

Achilles
 - Student
 Achilles

But like I said, get a magazine! I mean, if your that desperate for half nude women (yum yum :P :P)
get a Victorians Secret magazine, hahaha!
and plus the stuff in that magazine is not within 10x as disgusting as the Ragnos map
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Oct 28 2003 10:59pm

Dark Knight Kyp
 - Ex-Student
 Dark Knight Kyp

Thank you acheilles, but if shadow is that botherd by the room dont go into it, it's as simple as that, if we ban this map, we ban a part of are freedoms.

-Kyp Durron

Oct 28 2003 10:55pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

ok all those who think u can't get there, go to server (wireplay) i bet any one there can show u how to get there

OR THE ja CAN BAN the map funny who NONe of u came up with that

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Oct 28 2003 10:55pm

Achilles
 - Student
 Achilles

No, Mace is actually got it wrong, so are you Kyp, it is accesable if you break a peice of rock near the pit of the lava, there you can teleport into the room, now I would have no beef at all if it was only accessable with cheats on, but still I had my little brother (only 10 or 11) open up the PK3 file to look at the music or the textures, and he opened up these 4 textures and went 'What the hck?!' Just a few days ago on PCGamemods.com and saw a Nude Pack, (Yes Jan and Tavion were actually nude) on a site that anyone can access it. But let's face it guys, people are idiots, and there is nothing you can do about it, the only thing pCGamemods.com could do was delete it, is that gonna change that twisted perverts mind? NO! So, girls, you are just going to either get off the server when there are perverted men on the map, or deal with it.

Peace out!

The man (Yes I'm a man :P)
Stephen -Achilles-
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This comment was edited by Achilles on Oct 28 2003 10:56pm.

Oct 28 2003 10:47pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

No do u even know how to get there?

u can get there with without cheats on

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Oct 28 2003 10:47pm

Dark Knight Kyp
 - Ex-Student
 Dark Knight Kyp

Your right windum it's only accesiable when you have cheats on, dont you guys see how silly and time wasting all this is, we cant accese the room when the cheats are disabled.

- Kyp Durron

Oct 28 2003 10:42pm

Mace Windu
 - Retired
 Mace Windu

hmm, I don't see why it should be a problem. The only way to get to that room would be through having cheats on. Am I right?
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Oct 28 2003 10:34pm

Dark Knight Kyp
 - Ex-Student
 Dark Knight Kyp

I cant say that i am onloine-people person, my philosphy when it comes to the JA is just let my saber do all the talking for me, but i feel that i need to say something about this "subject".

I enjoy the ragnos map, to tell you the truth, i just recently noticed "the room", i can see where ppl might get offended, but you have to understand that there are images and themes all over the place, abd yuo can ban this map and call it a day, but the truth of the matter is, it's still there. I go into the jedi academy servers alot, i read conversations, and get to know all of you, and belive me when i say this, there is alot more worse things the students and teachers talk about then can ever come from that one room ( which i should remind you, shows no actuall nudity)

You guys are probably going to take the map off, which is a shame, the jvun and other default maps get old, but this will solve nothing, sexual themes, and nudity are all out there, students and teachers, everyone discusses it, heh, just go to the mirc chat chances are youll catch virtue hitting katarn with a ******

Thank you for your time

-Kyp Durron

Oct 28 2003 10:29pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Acctually....yes...

I don't see why i should get bent over a few pictures...go right ahead...post a whole room full of em....trust me..im not gonna loose any sleep over it...:D
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Oct 28 2003 10:25pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

oh so if there was a room like that on a differant map that had men in it. and the girls where going there and making comments u would just like "oh yeah thats ok,i will just no listen to them, and i will not go near the room"

YEAH RIGHT

Oct 28 2003 10:15pm

Achilles
 - Student
 Achilles

Yes, the room is disturbing, the mapper is some moron pervert that can't get anything in RealLife, and probably thinks it is funny to put a "Secret Room" in his map. But yes, I agree with my Master Katan, that is a stupid reason for leaving the Academy. But, Katan, there is no way to make this map suitable, I mean they can put something in the motd, but they cannot edit the acutal map itself, unless we can pry the file needed to edit it from the mappers cold perverted hands :P
Peace out, and perverts... get a damn magazine instead of brining it into a Star Wars Game!
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Oct 28 2003 10:14pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

its not the fact people can go there freely its the fact THERE IS a room like that on a map!!

Oct 28 2003 10:08pm

Rei D'Kana
 - Ex-Student

Hmm, this is a difficult matter indeed. I can understand that the room might be disturbing. But personally, I dont find it porn as it does not show any of the "parts" that are generally considered as porn. Its all covered up nicely. Also I have to agree with the fact that its a room that can be entered freely. No pressure there. But, I indeed agree that people should not make such a big deal about it and rub it in other peoples faces.

Oct 28 2003 10:00pm

sharwyn
 - Ex-Student

oh yeahi just talk to a knight and "HE" said its "not porn"........... oh THAT MAKES IT OK THEN DOESN'T???!!!

i'm am sickend

I think this is a kind of sexism

T quote from the rules rules
Watch your mouths. A small amount of swearing is ok, but if you take it over the top, you will get a warning. Racist/sexist/homophobic talk is extremely forbidden. This extends to the image you want on your profile. This is civilization people, you can do it, I promise.



This comment was edited by sharwyn on Oct 28 2003 10:05pm.

Oct 28 2003 09:59pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

I'm sorry, but I fail to see the wrongness in it. NOBODY will force you to go there.

Sorry, gotta shut down the comp now, if not, I'd give ya a nice half-long comment about why I see no problem in pron, even if some here are young. :)

Oct 28 2003 09:52pm

Katan
 - Student
 Katan

I cant say I disagree with you, that maybe the JA could edit teh map for all audiences.

But on the fact of leaving because people are in that room, doing whatever they may be doing is a stupid reason.

No one said you had to go in.

No one said you had to pay attention to what others say.
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