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Rules: No giving out the password
Nov 15 2003 01:39am

Squibit
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Squibit
Ok then , a little tale and question and stuff,

Today I was alone in JA home server then someone joined, cant remember exact name somthing like Liolth.

We played several duels and i got pwned :(

Then they said, "how do you get training at the academy"

So i explained about classes and what have you,
and mentioned about setting time zones in my profile.

"Oh, ok so do you sign up on the site aswell?"

Now this puzzled me at first.

"So you havn't joined the academy ?"
"nope,"
"How did you get the password?"
"Brute hack"
"Woah !"
"Is that so wrong ???"

Now technicaly i can't see anywhere in the Rules saying not to hack the server passwords, LOL

And this person was a generaly nice person , did nothing wrong/Rude, etc.

Therefor i see no reason why they shouldn't be allowed to join, but just wondering what comments you have about this ,

I found it rather funny actually, you should have seen my face when he said "Brute hack"
lol

mtfbwy, Squibit Belouve

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Nov 16 2003 02:01am

JAcen LW Solo
 - Retired
 JAcen LW Solo

Although the IP changes there i a little thing called Hotmask.

For example. Lets say "Lamming Bob" has a dynamic IP and his present IP is 69.69.69.69.
His hot mask could be a69-69-69-69.lammingbobnetwork.com.

Now if he ip changed to something like 69.69.233.87 or whatevah. His hotmask would still be very similar. Like a69-69-233-87.lammingbobnetwork.com .

That means we start memorising these hotmasks. Thats how we know when ashley logs in, or spawn, or loaf or whoever starts trouble around.

So although it's a bit more dificult we still can track them down. :)
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Nov 16 2003 01:45am

Garos
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 Garos

Yeah, my dad said that we have an IP address that always changes. Wouldn't that mean that it's impossible to be banned from any site?

Nov 15 2003 10:40pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

Some people have dynamic IP's, my IP changes aswell :)

Nov 15 2003 10:14pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Question: Is it even possible to change the IP? I thought that was impossible?
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Nov 15 2003 09:52pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Well, if you change the server password, none can get in, no matter how many times they change there IP :)

Nov 15 2003 09:48pm

SaberWeildinKow
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 SaberWeildinKow

Ashley can get in as long as her IP changes (right?).

It's too bad there's people that do this. Oh well...one IP at a time :)

Nov 15 2003 09:25pm

BigBabyJesus
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 BigBabyJesus

Never mind, I logged out for the first time ever and tried it and non-members cannot see the passwords. :alliance:
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Nov 15 2003 09:23pm

BigBabyJesus
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 BigBabyJesus

I always thought the passwords were there for everyone to see, not just members. I could've sworn I saw them before my application was even accepted, and I don't have and "brute hack" or any hack for that matter. maybe I'm wrong and I didnt see them.:alliance:
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Nov 15 2003 09:07pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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Yeah, I totally agree with that
Maybe the passwords should be changed everytime someone is banned?:)

My god...
The passwords would be changed every five minutes?:)
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Nov 15 2003 09:05pm

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

The rules are clear and just: only members in the servers.
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Nov 15 2003 08:40pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

yaaaaaaay, hope I never see her again
she was annoying :)
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Nov 15 2003 03:47pm

Jacen Aratan
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She already is, I think. I think Solo did it yesterday evening.

Nov 15 2003 02:38pm

xAnAtOs
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Why not just ban Ashley from nl. As its a jk2 server, even a jat can ban him/her cos there's JAmod there :)
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Nov 15 2003 12:35pm

SS/ph00d
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 SS/ph00d

People have to sign up and get the passes once they login in to the site. Your not allowed to give out the password to anyone, Just tell them you hate to be rude by they have to check the site for themselves. If they hack the password then they will probably be banned.

NEVER GIVE OUT ANY PASSWORDS.

You'll probably see posts about this on the news in the future because some one out there will do this kind of a silly thing.
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Nov 15 2003 12:34pm

YinYang
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 YinYang

NL's pass hasnt been changed
so of course she/he(don know) knows it so
she/he has access to NL server it ONLY NL tho no other server so I'm guessin we need to change NL's pass b4 she/he starts to do even more stupid stuff like in the past ie bringing more with him/her
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Nov 15 2003 12:15pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Okay
Yesterday I was on Gamecity.NL. server
and I encountered a lamer...
It appeared to be our very own banned Ashley...
How the ... did she get in?
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Nov 15 2003 11:31am

YinYang
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 YinYang

In the Acdemy mainly JK3 due to NO MOD -_-
people think no mod = its ok to lame
ALOT of us experienced this trash and its getin annoying just cause theres no mod DOESNT meen people can break all the rules they want the academy is a place with respect not just sum normal public server where everyoen lames each other...Im sure I speak for EVERYONE when I say grow up dont break the rules show sum maturity in the rules atleast RESPECT them
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Nov 15 2003 10:03am

Daidalus[JAP] Fisto
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 Daidalus[JAP] Fisto

I dont like the idea of open servers. Most ppl outside dont know how to act in the academy, they would act like on open servers and thats not realy nice in the academy ;-)

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Nov 15 2003 09:02am

Rei D'Kana
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Well I think the reason for non open servers is basically that you always have a server to play on. Members in the JA are (mostly all) Respected and non Laming people. So they can play on those servers. But if we start opening them, they will nodoubtly be full almost every day since they are good causing us to not be able to join anymore.

Nov 15 2003 08:56am

Jacen Aratan
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I'd say it's more than normal logic, but perhaps we actually need to put a line or two about this in the rules? Like "no giving out server passwords for non-JA members"?

Nov 15 2003 08:23am

 
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I think he's talking out of his arse... chances are, he's got a friend in the JA who gave them the password. Personally, I don't have a problem with these kind of folks as long as they've signed up already, and behave. Everyone makes mistakes... he maybe thought the passwords were allowed to be given out. The guy he got the passwords from, assuming that's how he got them, on the other hand, should be punished BY DEATH!

err...

Nov 15 2003 02:59am

Buzz
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 Buzz

I think that once we get a mod up and running and a longer ban list we ban his IP, It won't matter how good of a password hack he has if the server won't allow his IP to join.
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Nov 15 2003 02:55am

Vladarion
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 Vladarion

Im sure that DJ and the staff will look into this matter and any like them in the future. Anyone who hacks a server for fun or otherwise needs to be held responsible for their actions. Starting a relationship off with "Oh I just broke into your house to talk to you" is not a way to impress anyone... nor can it be justified by any means. :alliance:
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Nov 15 2003 02:33am

Acey Spadey
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 Acey Spadey

hmm
perhaps DJ should speak with him concerning that hack before he joins. cause I doubt DJ_Sith would want anyone hacking the website or servers.
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Nov 15 2003 02:25am

Achilles
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 Achilles

Wow, brute hack? lol, jeez what has this world come to? lol, but if he hacked the server just to get in, but he was nice, I don't know... He should have signed up first instead of hacking it :P signing up would be a heck of alot easier, ya know? lol
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