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JA vs. JK2
Dec 17 2003 12:02am

Lian Del Rey
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Lian Del Rey
I just thought I'd try to see if I'm the first to do BBCode :P
So I've heard people say that JA is better than JK2, and at the same time, JK2 better than JA. Now, let's see your opinions. :D
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Which, in your opinion, is better? (And if JK2 is better to you, WHYTF AREN'T YOU PLAYING ON THE JK2 SERVERS?!)

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Jan 05 2004 06:57am

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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 (Jedi)Obi-JK

Sup,

SP - JK2 like 90% of the way.

The story was better, imho JK3 had little story, its like um ok im this dude and I shouldnt even be hear cause im way to old to train, well ill go with it. Um I never learn anything about myself, nor any of the other characters, I really dont grow I just tag along with my master, we split up and I happen to always go the more exciting way.

There were only 2 parts of JK3 SP, that I thought were improved upon. One core force powers, this is almost neccasary for the developers, otherwise every level would have to have like 12 possible paths based on the force powers you could have given yourslef. Two upgradingthe force powers YOU want after each mission.

What I really didnt care for was how they totally ripped you off, on the whole light side / dark side path. No no no no no! Your choice should have effected the game like 1/3 of the way into it not 9/10. I would have been more than happy to pay more money fr the game if the story branched earlier.

Oh before I forget yes siege does rock, hardcore!

The two new sabers, ugh I would never wield them that way, the moves are so absurd. With two sabers I would be attacking high/low at the same time, from the left and right at the same time. With a staff I would be blocking attacks with one side and leading my counter attacks with other blade. If they didnt have the ability to make these sabers right, then tough just make us wait.

Oh yeah one other thing I liked starting in JK3 with a saber that was a better idea.

As for MP I guess its personal preference if the dueling got better. I dont think so, maybe JK2 will just always own this part of the JK: series imho. For now I am very happy wth siege, its add a great new dynamic to MP, I just really cant wait for more siege maps.
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Dec 31 2003 11:55am

_cmad_
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 _cmad_

Well, I think that generally they're both really good:

JK2: really cool MP and much more stable and stuff so I think JK2 MP generally rocks. However, for me, the SP doesn't cuz main character is Kyle who I really detest ;) However the main storyline for the SP is quite good I dare say

JK:JA: really really cool MP but still unstable yet (the damage and things), and as soon as a good patch comes out (and a nice mod, I don't got our mod yet, feh @ me) I think JK:JA will be the best MP game SW ever had. As for SP, it roxors cuz see you choose you saber, you choose your path etc. etc. Though there isn't a constant story-line with a good flow like JK2.

So... what should I vote for now... :confused:

JK2 MP ~ JKA MP but I think JK2 MP is quite < JKA MP (if a good patch comes out for it)

JK2 SP ~ JKA SP...

so... I'll just vote JKA even though I think that generally both are equally roxoring :D :P
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Dec 30 2003 04:51pm

CarthOnasii
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JEdi Academy!
I know there are some bugs and fixs to be needed, but when a better patch comes out, im sure i will own!:P
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Dec 30 2003 04:57am

Xavier
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 Xavier

got to say JK2 is better, for the time being, cus there is just to much laming n jk3 servers i have heard ( PS: hope to be getting it soon)
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Dec 29 2003 11:37pm

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

JK2 is much more balanced, as of now. The damage model in JK3 is WAY different, it can be turned to jk2 style, but who'd want this ? ;)

Yeah, the game has its issues, and I utterly hope they'll be fixed, well, Im playing jk2 often, too, but its gonna take me some time until I am on par in JK3 ;)
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Dec 29 2003 10:06pm

Jawa Rikard Falk
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 Jawa Rikard Falk

ja for the mp and jk2 for sp but the jk2 mp maps was better but u can download them to ja and mp is more fun when sp every jk and df game have some thin good but my vote goes to ja:D
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Dec 29 2003 08:23pm

Jedi Deity
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 Jedi Deity

I'm still unsure which one is better but i think the dueling in JK2 is much more classic has a film vibe to it other than that i think there almost even.

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Dec 28 2003 02:27pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

same as Vaxxla:)
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Dec 20 2003 11:24pm

VaXxla Belouve
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 VaXxla Belouve

At the moment I still prefer JK2, basically beacuse the duels are more preditable. I.E I know if I hit with something it will score damage.

I am still waiting on the next patch, to see if it changes JA in any great way, I hope so, I really do.

BTW I am still on JK2 servers every night.

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Dec 20 2003 08:55pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

As for the SP part, I definitely think JA is better. As for MP, I'm kinda up in the air. I really like all the additions made to JA(staff & dual sabres, etc.), but I think JK2's duelling overall is a little better.

Both games are among my favorites though.

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Dec 20 2003 04:03am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

I was just on the JK2 server for half an hour. No one showed, but I'll try again later tonight.

JK2 is not dead.

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Dec 19 2003 07:34pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

yeah
I know that one day the'll be able to create a game which has a perfect duelling system
like in the movies

that would be awesome:)

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Dec 19 2003 06:29pm

Mikel Rider
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 Mikel Rider

I like JA better myself, more variety all around, it is more like what I thought JK2 was goin to be, it has some issues but nothing too bad, and I am sure eventualy they will get better.
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Dec 19 2003 06:29pm

SilkMonkey
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 SilkMonkey

I'm JK2 right now, but eventually someone'll have to teach me JK3...
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Dec 19 2003 03:32am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

I love Siege! And I love scripts in MP maps and vehicles in MP maps and how there are shaders visible only when using Force Sense, and...well a lot of the technical enhancements in JK3.

But for just hanging out at the Academy socializing and dueling, I like JK2 much better.

What's kind of sad to me--and this was inevitable--is that it kind of splits the Academy in two. This may sound wierd, but the Academy map was a very real place to me, a place to go hang out and socialize after hours exactly the same way that I used to hang out and socialize in bars. Now I go there and the place is deserted. Going back and forth between the JK2 server and the JK3 server is not like going back and forth between the spike room and the matrix room. They are in different universes, and when I'm in one, the people who chose the other aren't there. :(

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Dec 18 2003 02:11pm

Cyb
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 Cyb

Well I like JK3 just because its a new game and I have played JK2 for so long already. But JK2 is definately better, yes.
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Dec 18 2003 01:00pm

Roan Belouve
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 Roan Belouve

Went to new JK3 home map yesterday it was great. Started playing JK3 SP but not finished it. MP JK2 is still a great game and the saber duelling seems more refined JK3 still seems quite Frantic loads of flashy moves.

Horses for Courses I will play both.

BTW Viue & Faded JK3 map PWNs
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Dec 17 2003 05:21pm

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Lianiotte....i love jk2 way more then jk3 jk3 is great and all but there neevr going to get better then that,oh and take a look at this LinK

EDIT: i was on the jk2 servers last week and this week and amny times


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This comment was edited by Plo Koon on Dec 17 2003 05:23pm.

Dec 17 2003 03:06pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

Kenyon:
That's another bad point of JA
Kyle is sitting there telling jokes like 'And then Jan punches the weequay right in the...'
That was funny
but apparently not to Jaden, since he just sits there
he doesn't even laugh
Jaden is way too serious
Like in the beginning scene, in the transport
when he first meets Rosh
Sjeez
How he is sitting there...
brrr

He was an icecold character...

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Dec 17 2003 02:56pm

SilkMonkey
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JK2
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Dec 17 2003 02:44pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

JKII all the way, and i'm not on the servers, cause I don't feel being there alone, if someone else is on, i'll be there aswell :)

Dec 17 2003 01:40pm

Carda Jowol
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 Carda Jowol

JK3 ALWAYS!!!
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Dec 17 2003 01:26pm

Wolfwood
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 Wolfwood

I love Jedi Academy basically because it has kickass moves and graphics. But nontheless I play both :) and im also addicted to jk2 :)
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Dec 17 2003 12:41pm

Mookie
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 Mookie

No, I did prefer Outcast's story to Jedi Academy. In Jedi Academy, they try to let you customise the main character, which is a good thing... but it doesn't give him ANY sort of personality in the single player. His only motivation for completing the game is saving the galaxy so he can advance in the Academy, basically.

It's a weak plot, the voice acting is sufficient but not excellent. Outcast had better moments, with Kyle's defeat when trying to save Jan (Desann rules!) and his revenge at whats-her-name when choke-holding her above a cliff. Wickedness.

Of course, nothing can compete with Jedi Knight. Full motion videos, great special effects but above all: an epic storyline and characters we cared about.

Dec 17 2003 12:02pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

THE FOLLOWING CONTAINS SPOILERS REGARDING JEDI ACADEMY
I voted Jedi Academy for some reasons here

first of all, of course, the graphics. They have improved but at some cases they have gotten worse... I mean like the ydfa... It disorientates you completely by turning your back to possible oponents... So it's not ALL good, believe me....

Second of all, I like it more for the choices they give you... Light or Dark. And the cutscenes are better put together, and better voice-acted. I mean like, come on, when Jaden turns evil and just arrives at Korriban....
Listen to his voice
that's a real Sith Voice man ;)
So that's a plus point
The story ain't bad, but could use some improvement

Third of all, Jedi Academy has better maps
They are huge and better detailed...
which is cool;)

Fourth: I like the swoop bikes:) They're cool

Fifth: It's less hard than Jedi Outcast, which made me finish the game (on highest difficulty setting) in two days, so that's a minus point...

Anyway, there are lots of differences
and I could spend all day writing them down here
but I think that if you add everything up,
they would both be alike
So I can't really choose

And oh yeah, to answer the question 'if you like JK2, then why don't you play at the JK2 servers'
Well, Lianotte, I do play on those servers, you'll find me more on the JK2 servers than on the JK3 servers...
;)
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