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The OFFICIAL LotR MOD thread :D
Dec 23 2003 10:57pm

..PJ..
 - Student
..PJ..
Yup thats right folks, its over, and we had barely begun.

It's really hurts me to see this thing end so soon, but I knew it was coming. So I guess we will have to wait until we can get a LotR TC :'(

Later guys! I'm out.

-PJ
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This post was edited by ..PJ.. on Feb 01 2004 10:18pm.

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What do you think?

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w000t!! Go Team! w000t!! Go Team! [28 votes] [65%]
Good Idea! Good Idea! [9 votes] [21%]
I can help!! I can help!! [1 vote] [2%]
Hmm....seems a bit too hard. Hmm....seems a bit too hard. [3 votes] [7%]
uhh....no. It'll never work. uhh....no. It'll never work. [2 votes] [5%]

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Jan 02 2004 05:12am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

Sorry about my rapid departure from IRC this morning - my dad turned off the network hub which our Internet runs through because we had to leave for a New Year's Day picnic, without knowing I was using the 'Net.

In other news, I may not be able to take as large a part in this project as I had hoped. The topic of physics came up in conversation today, my parents asked what I was doing the engine for, and I told them about the Academy. Unfortunately, neither of my parents are very happy with the idea of my consorting with who knows what sort of perverted, drug-addicted axe-murderers there are out on the WWW. :(

I'm working on that, anyway. I'll still have access to the forums from public computers, and I'll try to do modding and stuff anyway. More on that in the coming days. And Bail, this means I might not be able to teach you modding after all, at least for the time being. I'll talk to you about that next time I see you on MSN or IRC.

PJ: Can you please ask your sword-modelling guy (who, btw, is quite talented) to get started on Sting ASAP so that I can start working on a short-sword fighting style.
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Jan 01 2004 08:16pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

LOL :D
BTW I got a guy outside the academy to make the swords. Check out the site again :) (click the link at the opening commetn of thread - top of this page :D)
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Jan 01 2004 03:55am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

ah yes... physics.



*dies*



physics is next semester... :(
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Jan 01 2004 03:55am.

Jan 01 2004 01:43am

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

It would appear that Cmad cannot help us :( But hey, we're gonna be looking for a LOT of mappers anyways :D And programmers etc.
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Jan 01 2004 01:35am

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

As for the animation side of things, I'm an archer, so can help to make sure that you dont go screwing up the animation :D

I'll have to apologize in advance for the fact that I will accept no less than a damn near-perfect Bow animation, and physics. I want these arrows to fall to the ground :)

EDIT: I can skin, but not as well as I would like :D I'm going to see if I can get modelers and skinners from outside the Academy also. Anyone who can help us out here would be greatly appreciated :D
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This comment was edited by ..PJ.. on Jan 01 2004 01:40am.

Dec 31 2003 07:48pm

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

Programming will be mainly involve cleaning up existing bugs, adding animations, and adding AIs, and yes, that will be fairly intensive C/C++ with a side helping of assembly. Since archery is a fairly important part of any medieval universe, one of our first goals needs to be a working archer NPC with proper animations and AI. We'll also have to make up several new sword styles from scratch, especially since (assuming we're doing The Hobbit) Sting is "only a knife for a troll, but as good as a short sword for the hobbit". The existing saber styles were designed for longswords, meaning that only Gandalf and Thorin will be able to use them. New styles will have to be created for short-sword fighting. Another thing for the programming part: removing ALL of the existing weapons, and setting it up so that the player can carry multiple sword-type weapons, i.e. sabers, at once. And let's have a Gandalf NPC that uses his staff and Glamdring in the dual-sabers style (RotK, anyone?). :D:D:D

Both types of programming (modding and game-scripting) will be needed, cmad. Also: anyone who wants to work on this crew needs to download the SDK, and preferably also unzip all the game pk3s (assets0 through assets3) to a convenient folder.

What we really need now is a skilled modeler/skinner.

And unfortunately, my computer died (yes, again!) yesterday. It's in the shop now, and that's actually where I'm posting this from, but expect a few days, or up to a week of me reinstalling Windows before I can get down to any serious work. :(

EDIT: Wow, back from the shop already. Turns out it was just the power supply, so reinstallations won't be necessary. I'm still here, and won't be needing those few days after all. Let's get started! :D
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Jan 01 2004 12:03am.

Dec 31 2003 02:58pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Well, cmad, i think it is just scripting and stuff. I'm not too sure what kind of programming we will require for this kind of heavy duty TC.

But hey, if you can map, please feel free to join us :)
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Dec 31 2003 12:07pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

cmad X, if you can map, you're welcome to join the mapping team, and you can be in more teams than one, so... :)
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Dec 31 2003 10:55am

joca_bt
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 joca_bt

Go Team! Sry but I can't do nothin of that stuffss, I'm dumb:P
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Dec 31 2003 09:49am

_cmad_
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 _cmad_

I can map and program, but what kinda programming you need? Or you mean scripting by that? Plz explain. (if it's programming, then I can do C, C++, Pascal and little bit of Java). If it's scripting (for the game) I can do nothing :( (I was about to say something else instead of nothing but well, the warnings still hot :D :P)
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Dec 31 2003 08:59am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

ok, just in case that happens, I officially claim the position of G.D. of level design/mapping and programming (since the two have to work so closely together, and not at all because they're the ones I know the most about :P).

Jonny, don't forget to add Ulic, Bail, and myself to the op list on the IRC channel.

I just got back from seeing RotK, and I'd like to say that I will personally defenestrate (look THAT up! :D) anyone who so much as alludes to the possibility of leaving out parts of whichever story we decide to do.

Happy New Years, everyone! :D:D
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Dec 30 2003 10:57pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

Just came up with an idea to keep things more organized

For each part of the proces (mapping, script writing, scripting and so on)
we'll have a General Director or something like that, who'll overlook all...
In case there is a staff meeting of some sort, and you can't be there, you can always give your work to the G.D. and he'll throw it in the group

if you get my point
I'd like to volunteer for the G.D. of script writing...

Oh yeah, it's probably the most practical if only the G.D.'s HAVE to be at staff meetings
since, if our crew will grow even more (which isn't bad) then we'll get a really crowed room, and it'll be harder to discuss
for those that didn't show up (from the regular crew) we can just post a newspost on the lotr mod site to inform the other ones...

what are your thoughts on this?
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Dec 30 2003 09:57pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

okay...:)
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Dec 30 2003 09:53pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Yeh :)

I'm eager to get this started but first, We will need to meet on IRC, as Bail said.

Go and Idle on #lotrmod :)
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Dec 30 2003 07:48pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

yeah, well, if you can help in any way, feel free to join us... :) we're in need for a bigger crew:)
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Dec 30 2003 07:45pm

Cloaked Thunder
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 Cloaked Thunder

This sounds cool. Can't wait too see some progress :D Woot!
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Dec 30 2003 07:29pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

yeah, okay, agreed

now, for the script writers (not the programming script) we have Ulic, me and Tarp? in this case we should meet on IRC, or on MSN or something like that to discuss the story, and leave out certain things:) and stuff like that

Anyways, for the other positions we still need people
perhaps you should ask a JAC for a news item on the news page...:)
And I'll try to see if I can find anyone to help:)

so we'll have to set a time to meet at a chatting program to discuss the story and stuff like that
anyways, please remember that I live in Belgium and my GMT is +1. So we'll have to think about eachothers GMT's too, when we set an hour and stuff like that...

Oh yeah
About the site
who ever is making the site, could you make sure that it has some kind of admin acces, and maybe you should make us admins, so we can put things on the news page, while visitors can't. If you get my point:)
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 30 2003 07:40pm.

Dec 30 2003 06:34pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

OK. The Hobbit it is :D
As for AK, well, we can have the whole site :D as it is MY site :) It's actually the Home Page of my Raven Shield clan :) My webspace :) But I dont want to use it for our Mod. We need sumthin better :)

.tk would be good.......lotrmod.jk3files.com would be better. Longer, but a link would be on the site under the "Hosted Sites" or whatever section :D
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Dec 30 2003 10:31am

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

Okay
already three people agreeing about the hobbit
great;)
What do you say to it, Jonnie?:)

And erm...
well, skinning, I don't know the least bit about it:)
Texturing, that kind of works, but still it's a little flaky with me:)

Edit: I suggest you change the name of this thread since 'Do you like LotR' doesn't have anything directly to do with the MOD:)
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 30 2003 12:15pm.

Dec 30 2003 12:20am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

For an SP game, The Hobbit would be a great starter, not only because it's shorter, but also because there's far less choices for player characters, which means less nearly-identical campaigns to create :P

I agree with the lotrmod.tk idea: Jonny, I don't know how much space AK is letting you have, but if we can get something going on there, we can set up lotrmod.tk or whatever (as long as it's .tk) for free to reference that site.

The .tk (www.dot.tk) service does not provide you with web space; it simply sets up a domain name ending in .tk to reference a page elsewhere. lotrmod.tk could be set up to mean athenasknights.com/lotrmod, geocities.com/~lotrmod, brinkster.com/lotrmod, or anywhere else.

Another possibility for the site is affiliate-hosting on a jk3 site: how would you like for us to be located at lotrmod.jk3files.com? For that to happen, though, we'd need waaay more publicity... which Jonny's suggestion of a permy thread (in the General forum? :P) covers nicely.

Ideas, ideas, ideas! Keep them coming!

Oh, and Bail: I don't know anything about skinning and texturing. The distraction is so that I can escape that part of it. :D
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Dec 30 2003 12:51am.

Dec 29 2003 10:00pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

Well, the demo, I totally agree, as I've stated before

But the site, I don't
I know a great site for site space, and it's free, and it gives you an address like:
www.lotrmod.tk
so, it's worth it:)
I just can't remember the site name now,
when I see one of my site gee-wizzes tomorrow, I'll let you know what the site is

so you don't have to spend your money on a site place:)

Oh yeah, btw, you haven't answered yet about the storyline
As Ulic and I stated before, starting with the Hobbit would be wiser in this case...
what do you think about this?
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 29 2003 10:23pm.

Dec 29 2003 09:48pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Gah! I'm so excited! :D:D LOL.
and BTW Tarp, thats not the site :D that was purely to show ppl that I have already begun working on the mod :D

I'll get in contact with Cuzza and tell him what I would like in the site, send him a template. we will use that site www.athenasknights.com/lotrmod.htm for now, until I can fund a new site. when I get the cash, we will have www.lotrmod.com or sumthin similar.

The demo is a good idea :)

I'm also going to ask DJ if we can get a forum right here on the academy site, when we get enough posts, support, and ppl to join us.
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Dec 29 2003 07:30pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

well, about the general script, you know the lines for the voice-actors to read, we have Ulic-Quell Droma and me, and then you, so that's covered:)

Level designing and mapping, you've got me, and there's you, so yeah, that's ok..

Skinning: I don't know the first thing about skinning:) so there's only you so far

2-3 programmers: Well, there's me, and then there's you...

Someone to create the site: we've got CuZza, I think, but he hasn't replied yet if he wants the task:)

So, when do we start?
good question;)

About the demo, I like that idea
But it's all up to Padawan Jonnie, since he came up with the idea:)
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Dec 29 2003 07:15pm

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

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2-3 script writers

Well, there's you, and then there's me...

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2-3 level designers/Map design-layout ppl

Right here.

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3 mappers

Again, I'm already here.

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3 skinners

Look over there! A distraction!

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2-3 programmers

Well, there's me, and then there's you... :P

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and not to forget
someone to create the site :)

Do I need to submit a portfolio or something?

So, when do we start?

EDIT: I personally think we should make a demo, including just a few skins and only one map, and submit it to jk3files and pcgamemods in order to attract talent to our cause.
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Dec 29 2003 07:20pm.

Dec 29 2003 12:24pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

yes, of course
the more the merryier I should say;)

and besides
if 3 programmers are going to have to do the work of many men at Raven's, then it's going to take long;)
anyways
the more men we have on this project, the faster it'll be done, I should say:)
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