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The OFFICIAL LotR MOD thread :D
Dec 23 2003 10:57pm

..PJ..
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..PJ..
Yup thats right folks, its over, and we had barely begun.

It's really hurts me to see this thing end so soon, but I knew it was coming. So I guess we will have to wait until we can get a LotR TC :'(

Later guys! I'm out.

-PJ
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This post was edited by ..PJ.. on Feb 01 2004 10:18pm.

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What do you think?

vote results
w000t!! Go Team! w000t!! Go Team! [28 votes] [65%]
Good Idea! Good Idea! [9 votes] [21%]
I can help!! I can help!! [1 vote] [2%]
Hmm....seems a bit too hard. Hmm....seems a bit too hard. [3 votes] [7%]
uhh....no. It'll never work. uhh....no. It'll never work. [2 votes] [5%]

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Dec 28 2003 11:49am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

okay, nice;)

I propose we also recruit Sednox
for the computer-animated cutscenes
(like where your ship takes off)

things like that, Sednox is great at such things:)
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Dec 28 2003 04:53am

tarpman
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 tarpman

Looking through the posts on this thread so far, it looks like I'm partially qualified for just about everything here :P as follows:

- Mapping: I've played around with Radiant a bit, don't really have it mastered yet, but can (and plan to regardless) improve.

- WWW: I have a bunch of experience with HTML and some of its companions such as JavaScript, CSS, and ASP and would be able to help with the site, although I'd rather have my main focus on something else.

- Modeling and Skinning: The one thing I really haven't tried yet. Don't ask me for more than ideas and/or concept art until I've at least installed 3D Studio.

- Texturing: I suck at art. Don't ask me to do original textures. I can, however, easily modify things found on Google :P

- Programming: I learned most of C and C++ a while ago. I haven't really used it for anything yet, but I've been reading through the JK3 source code and haven't found anything really indecipherable yet. Modding is something I really want to get into.

- Logistics and Internal Workings: Sure, the mapping, texturing, and skinning is all you see on the outside, but you need to have a strong core too. Balance, variety, and creativity are all important parts of a good game, and I can help with all of them. This includes typing out code for NPCs, weapons, ICARUS scripts, etc.

If any of that sounds appealing, post on my profile or e-mail me and let me know when to start! :D

EDIT: I forgot to mention:

- Tolkien Knowledge: I have a strong knowledge of all of the events of both The Hobbit and LotR (including the appendices! ;)), so you won't need to explain to me exactly what the Ring does or anything like that. And yes, I have seen the movies.

- Others: You mentioned animations on your link. I'll get started on those as soon as I can figure out 3D Studio.
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Dec 28 2003 04:56am.

Dec 28 2003 12:01am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

anyways
The Hobbit has lots of cool battle scenes
and like Ulic said
it ends with a huge war...
It's a cool book;)
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Dec 27 2003 11:55am

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

indeed Ulic
it would give us some more freedom
so I would say let's start with 'The Hobbit' and if that goes well, we'll probably have a bigger crew, and then we could do LotR

What do you say, Jonnie?:P

EDIT:
and anyway
you seem to be wanting to see results quick:)
The Hobbit is a shorter story...
it can be easier...
And after the people see what great work we've done, they'll more likely join us
so probably we'll have a bigger crew too...
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 27 2003 07:15pm.

Dec 27 2003 09:30am

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

Doing those LotR scenes will be very difficult, especially because people expect it to be like the battles in the films. The hobbit has fights in it, with spiders, orcs, orcs, wargs, orcs and one big end battle, the battle of the five armies.
That should be interesting to create as it is fought by several different dwarf people, orcs, wargriders, eagles, elves, a wizard and a hobbit.
The fact that this battle hasn't been filmed yet gives us a certain amount of freedom.
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Dec 26 2003 11:48pm

..PJ..
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 ..PJ..

BTW:
Yes, it's a TC. Therefore it is BOTH SP and MP :)
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Dec 26 2003 11:45pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

OK, here we go.
The Hobbit, I hear, has little or no battles which involve things like Orcs and Elves and stuff. If we follow the movies, then we can get a better idea of what to make it look like. It would be good to get important events and kick-a$$ scenes such as Moria, and Amon Hen. We have to keep it reasonably small, otherwise it will take long to create.

As my Siggy says, I'm a skinner :D

D@rthy: Yes! It's LotR! LOL :D
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Dec 26 2003 09:35pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

about the link that is given in the beginning
read good:
you'll see it's a multiplayer mod
wouldn't ours be a SP mod? (and/or MP?)
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Dec 26 2003 09:10pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

LotR !!! :D

Dec 26 2003 09:04pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

well, the story will probably be lotr
though I think it's wiser to start with the hobbit
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Dec 26 2003 08:52pm

Ulic |retired|
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 Ulic |retired|

Could you please tell us or me at least more about the story, for that is the most important part of the mod.
Then we'll know what characters to use, what skins, what weapons, those are very difficult, since they were made with very much detail in the movies.
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Dec 26 2003 12:41pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

May I also suggest you make some more posts about this in General discussion?:P

Since people don't really expect to see such things in the Academy discussion:P

EDIT:
Went to your URL
And of course, I have some suggestions, as always

If you find a LOTR skin, always, ALWAYS mail the creator of that skin, and ask his/her permission:)
Since I know someone who made a huge mod, and used people's skins without asking first.
Now he has to contact about 100 people asking them permission...:)
So, just send the mail as soon as you find the skin, and you shouldn't have a problem;)

Second, about the swords...
We'll need lots of different swords, since in the LOTR movies, there were about three thousand different swords...:)
But let's not use too many swords, since swords are like skins, the more you upload them, the more the fps will drop...:)

The mapping
We'll need lots of new textures for this
and I've never created any
So I have no idea how to do that (yet)
but I'll look around

The programmers shouldn't be a problem

About the animations
I would leave that as the last subject.
First let's look at the mod making
(it will btw be a Total Conversion (TC) I presume?)
and if the mod is okay, then we can start to think about the animations...
Don't want too much in one turn:)

And erm... kind of a dumb question, but what are you good in?;)
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 26 2003 08:43pm.

Dec 26 2003 12:06pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I'm talking about:

Frodo:
I wish the Ring had never come to me
I wish none of this had happened

Gandalf:
So do all, who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide... All you have to decide, is what to do, with the time that is given to you


That kind of script;)
That's what I'm experienced with, but then a lot more professional then I've typed it here:)

Anyways:
I'd love to volunteer for a scriptwriter (the game script, not the programmer script:))
and to do maps...

EDIT: just thought of something
I know it sounds kind of dumb, but hey ...
Since LOTR is a huge story for just one mod
What about starting with the book 'The Hobbit' since it started the lotr:)
It's a smaller story, and it would be great to begin with...
get my point?
if we can do that
then I'm sure we could pull off LOTR too:)
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 26 2003 12:50pm.

Dec 25 2003 11:45pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

LOL I wasn't expecting you to do it on your own. :)

We will get as big a team as we can on this.
We will "officially" begin work on this once we have:

2-3 Script Writers
2-3 Level Designers/Map design-layout ppl
3 Mappers
3 skinners
2-3 Programmers

And...I'll think of more soon :)
Once we have these I will ask you all about how much time you have on your hands etc. and lay down an Agenda and set some deadlines :) We will be flexible so that the Deadlines aren't invading your private life :D

As long as we are organised, we should be able to do this in a controlled manner. :)

EDIT: And, what kind of script are you talking about? But yes plz, it's a gd idea :D
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This comment was edited by ..PJ.. on Dec 25 2003 11:47pm.

Dec 25 2003 08:28pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

ok
I'll map
but I can't do it alone:)
Since a map takes loads of work:)
I'll need at least three people for this;) (including me;))

Anyways
How about Ulic and I write a basic script, and run it past you people?
you can decide about some things
and edit some things;)

What's your thoughts on this?

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Dec 25 2003 07:43pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Hmmm.....Ulic, ty v much, if you would be happy to help with accuracy of the story, we would be happy to have you :)

Bail, if you can map and/or script, then you're in :)

and BTW, the idea was to base it upon the Movies, but if you would like inserts from the book, please, give us your input :)
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Dec 25 2003 12:03pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

LoTR freak here:)

I can map...
I can't skin
I can't mod

but hey
I'd love to help

Anyways:
My ideas:
We should start with Frodo leaving the Shire, in which he meets the Dark Riders
(We can use sounds of the movies
I have them all, so I can rip some sounds, if you like)
Second: we could make the second level something like Bree, where you meet Aragorn and set out for Weathertop, where you'll get attacked by the WitchKing of Angmar, and then a quick flight to the Ford.
Anyways

if you want, I can write a very basic script,
I always write scrips, and I'm very experienced in that matter;)

Anyways, I'm going to shut up now
Let me know what you think here
I'll check back later:)

EDIT: Will the mod be based on the movies or on the books?
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Dec 25 2003 03:42pm.

Dec 25 2003 11:45am

Ulic |retired|
 - Student
 Ulic |retired|

I know quite a lot about LotR, if you have questions, i can help you with good storylines, names, historic background and languages spoken.
I have absolutely no skill with modelling, skinning, mapping.
well a bit mapping actually
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Dec 23 2003 11:57pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Ok, minor setback :P

Oh well, carry on! lets continue this quest :P
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Dec 23 2003 11:31pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

not doing?
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Dec 23 2003 11:27pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

Ahh GODDAMN!

Check out DW's link. there is a link on that link that links to a link....i mean a site. They hav already started a thing like this. Damn.
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Dec 23 2003 11:15pm

Darkwood
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 Darkwood

http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=6316

:) good luck bro
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Dec 23 2003 11:08pm

CuZzA
 - Student
 CuZzA

lol, np's mate :D
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Dec 23 2003 11:06pm

..PJ..
 - Student
 ..PJ..

TY v much cuzza! :D

P.S REMEMBER TO VOTE PLZ ALL WHO READ THIS :D
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Dec 23 2003 10:59pm

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

i'll do the site for ya PJ mate
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