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..PJ.. - Student  |
Yup thats right folks, its over, and we had barely begun. It's really hurts me to see this thing end so soon, but I knew it was coming. So I guess we will have to wait until we can get a LotR TC :'( Later guys! I'm out. -PJ _______________ JK2 pwnz0rs JK3. This post was edited by ..PJ.. on Feb 01 2004 10:18pm. |
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Johnnyrico - Student 
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ok eventhough i should talk to the team first, i need the names  , but heres my idea.We make 2 mods. first one is a MP mod, it will come out first (sp is harder to make) In this mod we can make few maps. FFA, duel and of course siege. Those maps are gonna be places from the movies, for example: siege can be like helms deep, Orcs vs Humans fighting with swords orcs need to take over and kill all, humans need to defend ect. Duel and ffa can be another places from the movie. We gonna need to make new models and weapons for that. Now the SP is the big project. What i want to do is to recreate the movie well parts of it, using the jka engine. For that we need to edit almost everything. Also you can choose who u want to play, Frodo, aragon, Gandalf ect. or all of them together. Now it will be based on the movie. Alot of coding for new moves, new weapons, skins, scripts, maps and alot of other stuff will be need it. Should look cool at the end. _______________ ...... |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Tarp we need to talk about mapping too! You're making a demo together with Achilles, right? Can I participate in that somehow, as a LotR mod mapper? (I don't think that my making a demo by myself and you by yourselves is a good idea; we're a team) About the SDK, yeah I suppose we could try asking. But I never said doing the SDK ourselves. BTW: Cool JR!!! Join the team!!! _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Textures, great! Music, great! Site, already covered. Modding, read through the already-released source code and see if you understand it. It can't hurt to ask, can it? Even if they refuse to send us and only us the code, we might be able to persuade them that there *is* a community out there who really wants an SDK for SP. Which would you rather do: try to twist the MP code into an SP form, or write a brand new game from scratch? Believe me, it is possible; I do agree that we need to talk about it though. We desperately need modellers and skinners now; if you know anyone (even outside the JA) who can do either and likes LotR, PLEASE ask them if they'd be interested. It could also be an opportunity to get a few more people to join...  _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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Johnnyrico - Student 
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i can help in mapping, textures, music, site and maybe modding. not sure about modding yet. _______________ ...... |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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Yeah we could do that, but if there are no plans to releasing an SDK for JKA SP, I don't think Raven will do us such a favor. I still have my doubts about the JKA SP SDK-clone idea of yours Tarp :| It's harder than you can imagine to guess how a program works; imagine the possibilities for a game... I can tell you more about this point of mine on MSN. I'll try to catch you some time... _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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OK. First things first: cmad, next time we're both on MSN or IRC at the same time, we're going to write a very nice letter politely asking the JKA team to either have plans for releasing an SDK, or just to quietly send us the source code and not tell anyone else about it. Quote: Tarp, we don't know exactly how the JKA SP works so I don't think we've got a chance to find out just by trying out logical things, do we? SP and MP are exactly the same thing as far as stuff like weapons, movement, NPCs, AI, etc are concerned. Of course we don't have any hope of coming close to duplicating the original, but we can definitely duplicate its end-user appearance. It would just be easier to not have to. Johnny-Rico: yay! another helper! Please scroll down this thread to whenever the last Team Status post was, look at the positions available, and let us know which one(s) you feel qualified for, and do your best to attend our meeting on #lotrmod this coming Sunday at 8 PM GMT. Everyone else: If you were working on anything pertaining to this mod, don't slow down. The absence of an SDK isn't a major issue, and it WILL be worked around or solved sooner or later. _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. This comment was edited by tarpman on Jan 13 2004 02:06am. |
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Johnnyrico - Student
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i can help _______________ ...... |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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Well, start experimenting and exploring the possibilities, and report on the next meeting _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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IN FACT, I think we should've thought of making this MOD for MP first... MP lasts longer than SP, don't you think? Plus, there's the SDK advantage. Plz post your ideas fellow staff members _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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works for me _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Well, here's the idea We can make the maps and models and skins and eveything, and keep the mod code for the end. If we see that trully a JKA SP SDK isn't coming out, we'll make it MP... What do you say? _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Ulic |retired| - Student
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Tarp, can it be done or would it be better and easier to do something else? _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Tarp, we don't know exactly how the JKA SP works so I don't think we've got a chance to find out just by trying out logical things, do we?  Well, I think I will try to get some more info about it :| that "I think" is still a chance _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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CuZzA - Student
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dammit _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger
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well, that slows us down a bit. must... resist... stabbing... urge... ok, i'm under control. cmad, how about trying to extrapolate the SP code from the MP code they supplied? all of it's there, npcs and everything; it's just been wrapped in netcode. then all we need to do is tweak the project settings a little, and voilà! jagamex86.dll! in other news, PadawanJonny, those archer-anim pics you promised me would be really handy right about next weekend... _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. This comment was edited by tarpman on Jan 12 2004 06:13pm. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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OMFG!!!! I would really like to let out some really big fat bad words right now!!! I just contacted Raven Software about the JKA SP SDK, and they replied: "Truth be told, I don't think there are any plans to release a SinglePlayer SDK for the game"  What are we gonna do now?  JK2? Just MP? _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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CuZzA - Student 
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still here _______________ - Even if Carlsberg made "w*nkers", Christiano Ronaldo would still be the biggest "w*nker" in the world |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student
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Okay, I have made a text file containing the most important info from the 1st meeting You can find it here. If you want to have a look at the log of the conversation, look here _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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SS/ph00d - Student 
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LOTR pwns _______________ -ShadowSith: CTF/gunner specialist. |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger
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oh. best wishes to you and your family _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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..PJ.. - Student 
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Sorry for recent inactivity, my uncle died on Saturday from a heart attack. There is a good chance the inactivity may continue for a short time. Sorry TY for the Log BTW Cmad _______________ JK2 pwnz0rs JK3. |
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SirBizNatch - Student 
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meh? LOL I just started mapping, so im prolly gonna be on that for some time, but if i get angry at it, I could try skinning. I made my own skin once, and saber, they werent that bad either. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger
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are you interested in making any of those skins? _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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SirBizNatch - Student
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I read the meeting convo, and this sounds like a cool idea. One thing you'll need is a list of levels and skins your gonna need. I'm just going to make one off the top of my head, people can add on to it. Skins: Gandalf + staff (+ sword?) Bilbo Hobbits (maybe) The Dwarves Trolls Orcs The Orc King guy Gollum Elves Spiders Horses Wargs Eagles Beorn People of Dain Smaug so...seems to be more animals than people Stages: Hobbiton/Shire ----- Rivendell ----- Misty Mountains ----- Beorn's Place ----- Wood Elf Place ----- Dark Forest ----- Dain ----- Lonely Mountain/Halls Im missing lots of things probably, so fill anything I forgot. _______________ Personal body guard to teh 1337 Jacen Aratan! Midbie Council Memeber||Member of the Almighty FiZZsters |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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Not to worry, the meeting was very effective anyway, we've scheduled a meeting for next Sunday 20:00GMT, by then we'll have some answers (see the log) _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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