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What Cities' Children Have YOU Raped
Jan 03 2004 04:20am

Ex-Rauc
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Alright, that is probably the most inappropriate title to ever hit these forums, but it isn't such a bad topic. Recently, in the New York Post, an article was made saying "People, this is insane. This is 10,000 times worse than the worst thing anybody thinks Michael Jackson ever did to a little boy ".

Michael Jackson is currently on trial for 7 charges of child molestation and 2 counts of drugging the minor to accomplish the aforementioned task. According to this article, every time you've turned on GTA: Vice City, you've done the equivelant of 70,000 charges of child molestation and 20,000 charges of drugging minors.

So, to conclude this statement, I'd like to take a poll: With how much you've played GTA: Vice City, you've done the equivelant of drugging and raping how many children?

[PS, I already took Los Angeles, California, USA]

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Jan 05 2004 05:34pm

3th
 - Retired
 3th

i think he screws up his own argument by mentioning john lee malvo (the beltway sniper, or whatever they call him) he NEVER played violent video games and went off his rocker and killed a bunch of people. damn, i guess there are just plain crazy people in this world that do crazy stuff just because they are damn crazy.

biology is not a perfect electrician, sometimes people just get wired all wrong.

(nice story btw ranja :))
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Jan 05 2004 08:45am

Dammerung
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I've played GTA3 and GTA: Vice city. completed both, in fact. But I dont feel a need to go out and brutally murder innocent people in cold blood... granted, there are some i think deserve such a fate but thats beside the point:P

Think for a moment what it would be like if there was no violence in media, games, news, movies or music. Seems pretty peaceful, right?
Time goes on and people begin to feel annoyed and sickened by this utopianistic life style. Then, it snaps. Random acts of brutal violence erupts in the streets.

It sounds kind of preposterous, but the world is actually a better place with these sorts of outlets for anger and rage. Life for many can be frustrating, and even a simulation of destroying something is a way to make the mind feel like its getting rid of those problems. They often say when you're angry to punch a pillow. How is killing a handful of polygons on the computer much different?

Still, nothing should be taken to extremes, and some minds are weaker than others. The case with the two boys shooting cars is none other than an act of sheer stupidity.

Keep violence in games and off the streets.
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Jan 05 2004 07:59am

Rainer
 - Student

Apparently this guy is a strong believer in behaviorism-a flawed doctrine in my opinion. Though the actions of others, your upbringing, what you watch and find acceptable have significance in the way you act there is still the aspect of free will.

But I suppose when you surcome to saying that we are a bunch of animals that only act on instinct-and that we merely label our instincts with words like love and hate-there is practically no where to turn but behaviorism. However here is the problem with this situation. Accordingly going by that doctrine nothing can say that one set of ethics are any better than anyone else’s. You could go by the way of saying that the definition of ethics is whatever is best for the common man, but even then there is a very fine line to what is ethical.

Behaviorism and Socialism seems to be a tool to induce a feeling of victimization in younger people. We are told that society, what people do to us, what we watch, dictates what we will do. If this is true then what responsibility do we have? We are only doing what is natural ergo we are the victim in every situation.

Let me say that I don't think that I would like Grand Theft Auto myself-I say that from just what I've heard of it-but the idea that we automatically will do everything we see on television and do in a game is preposterous.

Quote:

In Tennessee last summer a motorist was killed and his passenger wounded when two boys - aged 14 and 16 - played "Grand Theft Auto" and then decided to go out and take sniper shots at cars, just like in the game.


Ok, so let me get this straight. Two boys sat down in their living room, played GTA, thought to themselves, "This is cool on the game and we don't get in trouble! If we do this in real life we won't get in trouble either!" And then preceded to grab sniper rifles, which I would like to know how they obtained sniper rifles in the first place, and ran out to go shoot at some cars. I doubt this is what happened.

I think I'll write a report about myself-
"There is no wonder why this boy did what he did! We checked his computer and the things we found were horrendous. He had played a text based game for over three years wherein he would kill mass amounts of creatures and people. There are a few graphic moments in this which were surely appealing to the boy. He also owned swords. Now we won't condemn him for having a sword collection, but his parents explained that he would swing them around outside very aggressively. Once he even brutally chopped up a tree with one of his Katanas! If all this wasn't enough he played a star wars game that, though bad enough on its own, he had turned on a "dismemberment mode" that made the limbs of his victims fall off when he killed them. He would spend hours a day online just killing people for fun. He had even downloaded a special modification for the game that allowed him to see blood spew from his victims, and use knives, swords and other life like weapons. The blood and dismemberments were obviously appealing to him because of the increasing realism. That realism apparently wasn't enough because after playing Jedi Knight:Jedi Academy he did absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing illegal or murderous, can you believe it?"

Heh. 'Nough said.

P.S. - Oh, and since I've never played GTA, I take Neptune.
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This comment was edited by Rainer on Jan 05 2004 08:22am.

Jan 05 2004 03:40am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

i've taken AT LEAST whatever hasn't already been claimed :P
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Jan 05 2004 01:52am

Fonz
 - Student
 Fonz

This guy needs to get some perspective, seriously, WTF??!?!
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Jan 04 2004 12:05am

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

Enialis K'tarr hey i called Asia and the Majority of Russia is in Asia! so its mine back off :D
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Jan 03 2004 11:57pm

graves
 - Student
 graves

Uhh... didn't Rockstar develop the game? Take-two is just the publisher...:confused:
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Jan 03 2004 11:21pm

Enialis K'tarr
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 Enialis K'tarr

I think i've taken most of russia, and most of europe:)
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Jan 03 2004 10:44pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

Bad people will do bad things, whether they play video games or not!

This dude should stick to reporting on stocks and stay out of the "morality" arena.
:mad:

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Jan 03 2004 09:18pm

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

yeah coz 10000 is not out of proportion at all.
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Jan 03 2004 07:05pm

Ex-Rauc
 - Student

10,000 not one million...... Stop blowing things out of proportion, Mr Nixon.

Jan 03 2004 06:18pm

Tallepyon
 - Student
 Tallepyon

The article said GTA was worse than anything Michael Jackson ever did by 1 million. So they multiplied all his accused crimes by that.

Jan 03 2004 05:56pm

Marcel Mandarijn
 - Student
 Marcel Mandarijn

errrm, sry, must be me but i don't get the connection between the raping and starting up GTA VC :/

EDIT: sry again, should ave read the article, but i don't agree. When i play a game i get my agressions out on the game, and i don't feel like raping a kid BECAUSE i've just played gta...

PS. i don't hav gta* ;)

This comment was edited by Marcel Mandarijn on Jan 03 2004 05:59pm.

Jan 03 2004 05:51pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

hey onion, it's my turf too :)
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Jan 03 2004 02:31pm

Axion
 - Student
 Axion

Puerto Rico! lol.. ive only played vice city and that was once.. its all rite.. fun part is shooting ppl or slicing them up with a sword :D
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Jan 03 2004 02:27pm

Garos
 - Student
 Garos

I loved playing GTA3 for the driving. Just the simple driving around the cities... on the footpaths a fair bit eehehehehe
lol
But seriously, the driving is awesome fun

Jan 03 2004 09:35am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

omg i've probably taken the entire world :eek:
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Jan 03 2004 09:07am

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

GTA is cool :D

Jan 03 2004 08:59am

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

If you count the other GTA games too, then Africa should fit.

If you mean GTA:VC, however, it's more like Germany.

This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Jan 03 2004 09:11am.

Jan 03 2004 06:34am

Tallepyon
 - Student
 Tallepyon

Man i take up Oceania. Btw DB that was lame :D

This comment was edited by Tallepyon on Jan 03 2004 06:35am.

Jan 03 2004 06:28am

Jello`
 - Student
 Jello`

I must say, I thought I experienced max bullsh*t when I had to write this 3 page paper for a weight lifting class, but this article has exceeded that by a lot. This is so bs. Nobody is forcing you to play this game. The way I view it, video games dont screw anyone up, except for the people who are already screwed up... and they shouldent be let near video games anyway.

I say, we all email this guy. cbyron@nypost.com is his address... get a-mailing :D

PS. I take Australia and New Zealand
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Jan 03 2004 06:21am

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

Ohh i figured it out..its about the size of asia, so I clam all of asia
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Jan 03 2004 05:50am

Flamori Athena
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 Flamori Athena

I never played GTA. so I guess I'm innocent!
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Jan 03 2004 04:32am

(SKX) Dark Blade
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 (SKX) Dark Blade

well, I have done Uranus.
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Jan 03 2004 04:32am

Orion
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 Orion

you took DJ's turf Doobie!
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