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The Ancient Jedi
Jan 05 2004 02:22am

Dammerung
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Those of you who have played through JK3 have probably found that there was a time when Jedi did not have lightsabers. Rather they had swords and were much like the knights of the Dark Ages. It comes up at the very end when Tavion, posessed by Darth Ragnos, uses a large sword infused with the dark side of the force. I'm just wondering if anyone could enlighten us on that.
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Jan 25 2004 05:20pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Cool Kenyon, hadn't thought of it that way yet :)

Jan 25 2004 11:03am

Mookie
 - Ex-Student
 Mookie

I don't. I've been training with both swords and martial arts, and although training with weights is a fantastic technique in martial arts, swords require a form of coordination and balance that is so exact, a sudden change of weight will require you to definitely retrain. That's why all forms of swords have different disciplines.

Of course, it may be different in the SW universe... Just putting in my own word. :)

Jan 21 2004 10:06pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I like to side with Buzz on this one:cool:
I think he's right
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Jan 21 2004 03:39am

Darth Samounoske
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 Darth Samounoske

if you have read tales of the jedi which most of you prob havent cause im a nerd and u have a life. BUT it talks about how sith swords were more powerful than regular lightsabers. this is also before vibroblades were created. its because the sith forged the blade with alchemy blah blah blah. naga sadow used a sword instead of a lightsaber because his blade had poison in it so that it would kill faster. and he did all this other stuff which made it a crazy cool sword that kills lightsabers so ya thats basically that if u have more question email me at akuma_3160@hotmail.com
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Jan 20 2004 09:03pm

Lord Jaws
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 Lord Jaws

Well Maul and KHAN, there are some differents, like with a normal sword you cannot reflect weaponsfire, but the Jedi probably could wield a sword as good as they wield a lightsaber.
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Jan 20 2004 06:19pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Uhm....Vibro Swords exist Mikel :P

Jan 20 2004 02:33am

Mikel Rider
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 Mikel Rider

Humm, vibro sword, rofl, sounds good to me.
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Jan 20 2004 01:24am

Kyle Sieran
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 Kyle Sieran

I remember reading somewhere in the rp books that back then, they had "archaic lightsabers". It was like a regular sword with a mechanized hilt generating a beam around the metal blade of the sword, used to keep the blade sharp and strong, like a vibroblade or something.
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Jan 19 2004 04:38pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

No KHAN....a sword and a saber are the same, the only different things is that a saber is way more powerful then a sword, cause the beam is made from pure energy instead of just iron ;)

Jan 19 2004 02:37pm

SedNox
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 SedNox

dude a sword and a saber are 2 totaly deferent things, if your used to swords, and you gonno take a saber you have to get used to it.
its like a SMART and a FORD PANDA. altough there 2 cars, but drive deferent.

UNDERSTAND!!! :P
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Jan 19 2004 12:08am

Buzz
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 Buzz

Actually training with weights is a good method. That's why you can get weights to attach to your arms and legs. If you can run fast with weights on you'll be able to run faster and longer without them on since your body is conditioned to the movement with a heavier load. Same with a lightsaber. Your body would be conditioned to handling a heavier weapon thus you'd be stronger and all you'd have to overcome is the balance change.
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Jan 18 2004 09:41pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Read better Bail, if you master fighting with a sword, then fighting with a saber is even better.
And you don't hit your own arms, cause else you wouldn't master swordfighting eh Bail ;)

Jan 18 2004 09:12pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

that's not true...
Let's say you do a flourish (X in KOTOR)
if you do that with a sword, and you happen to hit your own arm
that's okay
cuz it would've been with the flat side

but if you do it with a lightsaber...
ouch...

:)


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Jan 18 2004 08:48pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

But Sed, if you can master fighting with a sword, then you'd pwn even more with a saber ;)

Jan 18 2004 10:36am

SedNox
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 SedNox

the blade of a sword has weight, the beam off a lightsaber dont have weight, so it would be stupid to learn with a sword for a lightsaber...:D
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Jan 17 2004 07:31pm

 
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Do you think maybe the swords were used to train Jedi as they were learning to use the lightsaber? Just a thought...

Jan 17 2004 03:16pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Well you have to remember, this sword was also his scepter. It was capable of absorbing force energy so this was no simple sword. There's also a chance of it being laced with cortosis ore, about the only material capable of stopping a lightsaber. And that's probably why the went to lighsabers. Few materials could stop them and cortosis's only useful property is deflecting lightsabers its useless the rest of the time.
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Jan 17 2004 02:50pm

Aiden
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 Aiden

But why didn't Ragnos' sword broke when you hit it? If it has the same effects as an lightsaber why the hell did the Jedis start to use lightsabers?! :confused:

Jan 09 2004 12:55am

dose
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 dose

Yeah they were sith weapons that the Jedi mimiced. Then they invented sabers.
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Jan 08 2004 08:57pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

Back, way before the Republic was born, Ancient Sith Lords used powerfull swords instead of Lightsabers indeed.

In KotOR you visit The Valley of the Dark Lords, the burrial place of the 4 of the most powerfull Sith Lords of the Old Days: Naga Sadow, Marka Ragnos, Tulak Hord and Ajunta Pall. In the tomb of Ajunta Pall you can find his sword, which holds incredible power. In the tomb of Naga Sadow, the leader of the 4 Sith that were burried there you can find his Poison Blade Sword, which poisons everyone that touches the blade.

I like it :D

This comment was edited by D@RtHM@UL on Jan 08 2004 08:57pm.

Jan 08 2004 05:45am

tarpman
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 tarpman

swords are awesome, and jedi are awesome. what could be a better combination?

lightsabers just add to the dismemberment factor :D
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Jan 08 2004 04:46am

Vasper Ba'xian
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 Vasper Ba'xian

All Jedi ROCK, no matter what time period. Could You imagine when the Jedi first came to be? Like just realizing that there was a force and they could use it. That would make an awsome fan film.

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Jan 07 2004 09:08pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

it's like in KOTOR
there are also swords in primitive worlds...
:)
it's pretty cool:)
though I still like Lightsabers far more:)
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Jan 07 2004 12:40am

Zertz
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 Zertz

Yeah, I know that hyperspace had to come first so the race's can compare notes on the force and start trying to apply it.
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Jan 06 2004 11:34pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

here's the part of the timeline dealing with the beginning of their galaxy up to about 5,000 years before ANH. In other words Hyperspace, Jedi, That should give you some insight to when stuff occurs. Lightsabers seem to come into existence about 10,000 years before the Galactic Civil War. No clue when blasters started.
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This comment was edited by Buzz on Jan 06 2004 11:38pm.

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