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Eris - ex-Student |
Can I still take classes? I don't think there are any Mac patches, so, will I be able to? I'm kind of worried I won't be able to play with anyone because I have the mac version of JKII.
Can someone help me out? Can I still take classes? |
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Dicemaster - Student 
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ask me about macs 4 weeks ago i would have told you I dispise them.
Then my advanced comptuters 1 class for school started, i found out it was on mac and i was like ahhhh crap. then after a few days, i realized that when your not playing a game they are pretty much the same...control c for copy on windows, apple c for copy on mac's and so on. Now if i wanted to do all kinds of gameing i would defianntly get windows. If i want a computer that wouldn't confuse the hell outa my parents....defiantnyl windows, but if i wanted to do a lot of photo/video editing or anything like that i would without a doubt get a mac. thats what i have to say -Dice _______________ Dicemaster |
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Pepsi - Ex-Student |
Just a note on the OS vs OS thing here. Both windows and MacOS are built on unices. They borrow their hardware control from it, and the use it's hierarchy for filesystems. The problem with Windows and MacOS (any version) is that the added usability can only come at the cost of stability. This is because "usability" (ie. features, wanted or not) require additional programming.
Additional code is bound to lead to additional errors. Some are major, and most are small, but both types can (and will) go past quality control (beta testing), and the more code you put in, the more errors you get. The more errors you get, the more likely is it for one or more to slip by beta stage. Ofcourse... the early (and still today) problems with unices was (is) that you can't be a complete idiot and operate it properly. In fact, you have to be somewhat of a guru to operate it at its maximum. This is because its lack of "easy" set up utilities and stuff like that that MS and Apple hardcode in to the system kernel ('base'program, sort of, from which the rest of everything is loaded). I think I lost most of you halfway through there, hehe. Sorry about that. Anyways... unices are stable and hard to operate at a satisfying level, and very difficult to use at maximum. Windows and MacOS are both unstable and impossible to operate at maximum, but it's easy to get it up and running (well... at least until you install the first program, where the machine usually goes into hardcoded neverending loop). Go with a u*x if you run a bank, use something easier if you just wanna have fun, and never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Why Linux of course.  _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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DJ ur pic is brok... ah too late. anyway.
yo I said Mac versus Windows as it makes no sense to compare unices, at least not to my mind. besides, which OS do run on the older Macs (iE PPC601) apart from MacOS..? _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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oy.. quit the needless arguing. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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Heh...I'm sorry to hear you have such trouble with your windows...What OS are you running? Oh an who put that OS on there? If it was any major company that did that, that is your primary reason for blue screens...you need to fdisk it and start from your own installation. Then, you will have zero problems, unless of course, you use an OS like "Windows ME": That OS is just the worse 
Fizz: Install MacManager 2.2.2(latest version and says it supports 8.x) on your OS 8.5 and watch all your icons turn generic 
Also, Unix/Linux is definitly better than windows. I never said it wasn't _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. This comment was edited by cHoSeN oNe on Feb 13 2003 02:25pm. |
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Eris - Ex-Student |
So ChosenOne, you're slamming the mac because you don't know what some of the system stuff means? What kind of con is that?
Let me see, if I were using Window right now, it would have crashed at least 5 times. I'm not kidding. I remember using windows and remember counting at least 30 illegal operations a day. Along with about 10 BSODs, that is really insane. I think I'll keep my OS X and KDE thank you very much. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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I'd rather say Mac vc Windows since I'm tired of my *IX is better than your *IX discussions.
1) I have worked on OS 8.5 and X and X crashed once, 8.5 never. (but always due to windows emulation, maybe it is too good) 2) WIN87EM.DLL whatever it does
3) Net even a single G4 in sound processing. I've tried it. P4 2.5GHZ went home crying
4) More buttons are handy, but not necessary. 5) hey, I love my *IX
6) yeah, but rebootin every 2secs is ?
7) thats a blow. iTunes go awawy. 8) I fairly get new stuff for my linux, its stable as hell 9) Have heard it is possible to run a Linux on ur Mac and run OS X inside that linux... w00t more benefits cant happen
I oly got my windows for gaming and some apps that I need for my studies. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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Torwi Nibos - Ex-Student 
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You should have no problem - I run JK2 on my mac and have been on the servers for quite some time. never once a crash or disconnect.
BTW - Mac got rid of the hockey puck mouse about 2 years ago, it's now the best mouse I have ever used - the apple pro mouse simply rocks. |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired
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lol @ Fizz
1) Win 2000 Pro, very stable, not like OS 9.2.2 (eats way too much memory and Type 2 error appears all the time) 2) carbonLib <---- WTF is that anyways, lol 3) Umm...My machine will smoke a duel G4 1.2 Ghz machine...oh yeah, except for photoshop
4) More than one button on a mouse is used quickness. i.e. the intellimouse explorer has buttons you can easiyly browse forward/backwards with a click of button, instead of clicking arrows. Also, can bind more buttons for gaming
5) OS X darwin is just a little taste of what BSD can do. 6) Upgrading an OS every 2 days isnt fun, get it right the first time. 7) iTunes 2.0 erased harddrive partitions (yes, it was in release version) 8) Final cut pro is definitly better than premiere (Mac gets 1 point) 9) Pro Tools is also the best, if you have hardware too(Mac gets another point) 10) Wanna upgrade a MAC, throw your old on away and buy a new one. 11) First release of eMac's, the screen blew out of them. 12) G4 cube (yeah, that lasted when they started to melt from overheating) 13) Steve Jobs is a loon, apple is a cult!! (hello...the hippy iMac) Hee-hee...These Mac vs. PC wars are fun...Fizz, I'll be awaiting your rebuttle _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. This comment was edited by cHoSeN oNe on Feb 13 2003 12:54pm. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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Hey its cool you got it working. I'm accepting donations to the "DJ gets a 12" TiBook" charity. 
C1: The hockey puck mouse blows, but is way out of production. Get one of the new mice they make. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Aron - Retired 
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nm This comment was edited by Aron on Feb 13 2003 12:25pm. |
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Eris - Ex-Student |
Ah well, it seems that it works now! It's wonderful.
You know, all I had to do was turn on Auto-Download. However, right now I'm programming a feature called Auto-Respect, so look for that soon. Yes, a Macintosh is not exactly built with games in mind. Truthfully, it is built with creating movies and images in mind. I mean, you practically get the mac version of that Adobe movie program(the name escapes me at the moment) when the buy the darn thing. Then of course, you can get the Final Cut Pro thing, but that is.. hmm.. rather expensive. The only thing I hate about Macintosh(as a company) is that they are REALLY strict about customization. They really don't want you to mess with their computers at all. That's why they really don't let you change themes on your desktop, and why upgrading is such a pain. At least they haven't gone the way of.. Well. IBM is sitting pretty, but Microsoft is not. So let me just say that Apple has not gone the way of the Dodo bird and I appreciate that.  |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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I've been working on Macs for years....
1)You may be getting more out of the buck with the PC, but only when you disregard stability (at least in win) 2) Ever built a transparent stylish green case on your own ? 3) Games: agreed. 4) are u kidding? everyhing in photoshop is 50%-400% faster. Letalone that, ever tried to cut a movie...? 5) Why would u need more than one or two buttons. I remember the times when all mice had three buttons, MS decided not to use the 3rd, and MS decided tu use it again, as well as the wheel. pure marketing 6) Oh yes, but those blue-screens u get when u eject it in windoze are nice ?
7) as os X is a unix, wine should be able to run, and trillian works perfectly under wine, as well as all the other non-DirectX apps. _I_ could go on like this forever, but I just dont feel like it ;p _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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cHoSeN oNe - Retired 
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Although I have extensive knowledge of both platforms, PC's are definitly the better of the two.
1) You can get more for your buck with a PC 2) You can build you own and this includes case
3) There are more and better games on PC 4) Mac's can only load photoshop 2.1 seconds faster...man, time is of the essense. 5) The Mac's have "hocky-puck" mice with only one button for use. 6) Hmm..I have to throw the CD in the trash in order to open the CD-Rom drive. 7) iChat can't do half the things that trillian can do
I can go all day, but those are the things that first popped in my head. _______________ Get busy living, or get busy dying. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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gosh TiBooks rock
I am graving for a dual eMac or iMac ? whatever. kinda kill my CPU everytime I wanna turn on more than 40 VST effects.... ;/ _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council
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One of these days when I fall into a pot of money and find someone to buy my PC (at the same time) I'll have a 12" TiBook. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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ioshee what are u up to, lately ?
I sense a disturbance in the force... _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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ioshee - Student 
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I always said fizz was a genius. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student
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yes, indeed.
as soon as I got the money, I'll get on of these. especially useful for sound-processing _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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phogen - Ex-Student 
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Mac is like God, and pc's are like people going around swapping their crap, and pretending he didn't make them what they are, and that he doesn't exist. poor, poor, pc's. |
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Narsil - Student 
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Often times Mac versions have a lower number than PC, but are still compatible. For instance... Mac version 1.3 might work with PC version 1.4.
Of course, this is all a hypothesis, I haven't done any research into it at all. So I could have just given you a load of crap. Sorry if I did. Good luck though, I hope to see you on the servers someday _______________ "...and the sword of Elendil filled Orcs and Men with fear, for it shone with the light of the sun and of the moon, and it was named Narsil." Former Padawan of NoFrikinFun and Lightning Rod |
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The Canadian Jedi - Ex-Student 
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3 words!
Mac...should...burn! j/k -- I'm not really a Mac-lover though as you can see . |
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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first reaction to this thread's title:
i'm deeply sorry bro... didn't know it was that bad... 
BLEH! _______________ make install -not war |
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ioshee - Student
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Thanks Eris, You are now my new hero _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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