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Jan 17 2004 04:31am

JavaGuy
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JavaGuy
Is there such a thing?

Every time I Own somebody, he screams "Aimbot!" I've been told that the existence of such things is an urban legend, but Quake-engine Land is filled with True Believers who swear there are such things.

I've Googled the topic to death and found many sites claiming that such things exist, but nowhere they can be downloaded.

Now if I wanted to know if MySql really exists or not, I'd Google it and within two minutes be downloading it--because it does exist. If I wanted to know if Gimp or OpenOffice really exists, sure enough I'd Google it and be downloading it within two minutes. This is not possible with aimbots. You can find sites that claim it exists, but like Bigfoot the evidence mysteriously disappears when a skeptic asks to see it.

Now if such a thing did exist, it would most likely be a Trojan horse, and only a real 'tard would use it. But do they exist at all?

I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility, but I have yet to see any credible evidence of it beyond the usual I-got-owned-therefore-everybody-but-me-cheats argument. What do you guys think?


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Jan 22 2004 03:00am

JAcen LW Solo
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 JAcen LW Solo

Don't know about JK2 or JK3, but I've seen too much crap on CS not to belive it. I've never seen a aimbot in action live on CS, but you wouldn't belive the amount of carp ppl come up with on CS if the server is not properly protected. The most simple ones are wall hakcs. Imagine that you you are hidding behind a wall, you want to see if someone is crawling on you on the other side , you press a key and voila. The wall becomes transparent.

The 3d enviroment is build on your computer, these hacks are done by screwing with the dlls and drivers (opengl I think). So if you can interfer with how your graphic card renders the 3d enviroment and the 2d display of your hud you can do it in order to benefit your playing.

If it exists, presently ? I dont think so, I belive they existed before games evolved and got patched. CS is a very good example of it.

And even the Q3 engine games have too much diferences for 1 hack to work on all. Directx keeps evolving, etc. I think it is technically possible and there are ppl with the knowladge to build them but I'll have to agree with the Urban Legend theory though.

But, it is a known fact that the best cheaters will only do it as a last resourt and wont talk about it. That might explain the lack of info on google. The knowladge of such hacks are mostly transmited within clans, etc :)




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This comment was edited by JAcen LW Solo on Jan 22 2004 03:03am.

Jan 21 2004 11:29pm

Chainer
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 Chainer

how would a jk aimbot help in dueling hwich is the onyl reason to play the game

Jan 21 2004 10:15pm

Mreoton
 - Student

on Darkforces it was soooo easy to hack. If ya typed in console /imp_thermal_g 1 (i think) It will make the whole server be covered in thermal grenades :S. Its good technology is better now ;)

Jan 21 2004 10:13pm

aph3x
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 aph3x

there is no aimbot omg

Jan 21 2004 03:11pm

D@RtHM@UL
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 D@RtHM@UL

I got a binded Aimbot ;)

Jan 21 2004 02:46pm

Rampage
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 Rampage

prolly exists sum aimbot for jk2/3

Jan 21 2004 02:23pm

_cmad_
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 _cmad_

I dunno if aimbots exist for JK2/JKA, but if they do they must be absolutely lame
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Jan 21 2004 12:20pm

Orion
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 Orion

oh screw that im too lazy to do research, but i dont think there is punkbuster for jk2/jk3 so cheats are deff possible :)
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Jan 21 2004 12:19pm

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

there are TONS of aimbots for CS and HL games. this is common knowledge.
but we're talking jk2/3 here :D
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Jan 21 2004 12:15pm

Orion
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 Orion

JavaGuy want some source code?

here ya go this is from 4/25/2003

http://panti3.japsclan.com/pafiledb3/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=85

this is for counter-strike and hl mod games
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Jan 21 2004 12:14pm

Rampage
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 Rampage

well, i've played counterstrike on a lan with a aimbot once... it was all vs the aimbot user...

Jan 21 2004 11:47am

Steinin
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 Steinin

Did you try searching with file sharing progrmas, yet, Javaguy?

And the main reason people don't post any source code here is because they don't use such a program. Wheter it exists or not.
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This comment was edited by Steinin on Jan 21 2004 11:48am.

Jan 21 2004 01:22am

Lancer007
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 Lancer007

Well Java Guy I dunno if a Aim bot exists but if someone really insists in cheating then it would proubly exist i dunno

Jan 21 2004 01:11am

JavaGuy
 - Student
 JavaGuy

LOL!!! People are still insisting that aimbots are real...and still no evidence.

And again, a wallhack is not an aimbot--cheating, yes, aimbot, no. An aimbot is a program that, well, aims.

Do you believe in Bigfoot too? Have you been abducted by extraterrestrials? I know...you've seen Poloroids of them but can't show them to me.

Do you not understand that simply saying you think someone was using an aimbot 'cause you got owned is not evidence any more than saying you were abducted by aliens proves that you were? Why is this such a difficult concept for people? This thread has gone on long enough by now that if aimbots actually existed then somebody would have posted one by now. So it's overwhelmingly probable that they don't exist.


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Jan 21 2004 12:17am

Chainer
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 Chainer

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Love to see them!

A wallhack isn't an aimbot, btw, but very interested in that one too. Post them! I'd love to disassemble the executable (I won't be running it since I don't care for Trojan horses).

I'd really like to see if there's an aimbot for ET or Call of Duty. No friend-of-a-friend stories--I want a smoking gun.



if i ever see u in cod and u kill me u know what ill be yelling =p ther was aimbots for cs adn shit and i believe ther are wall hacks for call of duty i could get the wall hack if u want it

Jan 19 2004 10:55pm

Orion
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 Orion

Ill record a CS demo of someone with aim bot :P
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Jan 19 2004 10:35pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

Steinin, the reason he's asking about them is because he doesn't think they exist and he's so sick of hearing people complain everytime they die that someone is using an aimbot. So he wants proof whether they exist or don't exist so he can either tell them to shut up or be slightly suspicious at times.
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Jan 19 2004 09:50pm

Steinin
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 Steinin

Why are you so in to finding the source code of Hack programs?
Anyway. For this tread's sake I searched Kazaa and did after a couple of tries find lots of programs capable of taking away textures from walls, aiming stuff etc. If you're really want to find such a program you might want to try one of the many file-sharing programs out there. Don't let us catch you using such a program on the JA server though. :(
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Jan 18 2004 07:22pm

Jacen Aratan
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Java-> I use cfgs all the time, so yes, I know what they are... but JAbot whined about possible harmful code in one of the pics on the site I got it from earlier, so I was unsure.


But, alas, I tried it out: perhaps I used it wrong, or didn't notice the smaller details, but as I saw it, it was nothing but changed graphics. r_fastsky was set to 1, would probably make it easier to spot enemies, all graphic details and such were low, so I got 200 fps. Simple objects were on, etc.... but I couldn't see through walls. Perhaps I did it wrong, but of what I saw, it was a performance improver, not a wallhack as one would imagine it.

Jan 18 2004 05:47pm

Jello`
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 Jello`

They didn't have pure servers for medal of honor until the spearhead expansion came out if I remember. But, there were anti-cheat mods and you could check what skins they were using and kick them if it was anything suspicious. Thats why you went into the pk3 and changed the names of the skins to match skins that were already in game.
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Jan 18 2004 05:45pm

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

A glowing skin is pretty clever. Would a pure server catch it?

It's still not an aimbot, but it definitely ain't Cricket.

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Jan 18 2004 05:38pm

Jello`
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 Jello`

I know for sure wall hacks are real. I used one for Medal of Honor when I played it. It was a skin that gave troops a neon glow and you could see them through walls. If any proof is needed I'll check if I still have the .pk3.

Edit: I didnt find the wallhack skins pk3 but I did find a NoBush.pk3, a NoSunGlare.pk3, and a NoRecoil.mp3.

As for aimbots, hell if I know. I dont think they exist for jk2/3.

Double Edit: Aha, I found the neon wallhack skins. If you really want I can email them to you JavaGuy.
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This comment was edited by Jello` on Jan 18 2004 05:43pm.

Jan 18 2004 05:20pm

Lego[DEAD]
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 Lego[DEAD]

aratan uses one..:D lol jk..they dont exist!
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Jan 18 2004 04:52pm

_cmad_
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 _cmad_

Aimbots suck
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Jan 18 2004 04:49pm

Buzz
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 Buzz

The reason Javaguy wants to see a website offering a download of aimbots is because HE DOESN'T THINK THEY EXIST. If you know where they are just e-mail him the link that will keep your little secret safe and no one knowing where to get it. I think the majority of us here at the academy aren't going to use them anyways. I want to see proof of an aimbot too. If you can't search and find a download of them then they aren't real. Like java says, its a big foot. It like if I claim my friend owns a small polynesian island. You guys can't prove me right or wrong so its a stalemate. Java has brought the proof that they don't exist, you have yet to bring the proof that they do exist.
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