WINDOWS 2000/NT SOURCE LEAKED | |
Aron - Retired ![]() |
Wether it is a hoax is unsure yet, but there are source code files of a couple of hundreds of MB's on the internet. I saw a few comments by developers already, and they say it looks pretty real. All related sites seem to be under extremely heavy load, and unreachable. The article: http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=17509&category=main If this is a true, expect hell to break out. Dozens of virusses, and a drastic change in MS. This post was edited by Aron on Feb 13 2004 09:54am. |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
OMG that s*cks!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Fizz of Belouve - Student ![]() |
I heard the Linux sources are leaked every day ! ![]() _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
Jacen Aratan - Student |
Ph33r! ![]() |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
What did you expect? Jacen DID have a computer back then right? ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Sared - Retired ![]() |
Craaaap. When Win 3.1 got leaked then there was hell to pay. Thankfully they released 95/98 soon after, but the internet was a scary place to be in at that time. ![]() _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
kinda off topic but: For the win98 users out there; to crash your PC open the "run dialog" (Start -> Run) and write: con\con ![]() ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Fizz of Belouve - Student ![]() |
Full disclosure has the scoop. apparently u can crash windows wit hsome wird bitmap files roflmao ![]() clicky phunky, isnt It ? _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
Orion - Retired ![]() |
lmao great analogy! linux is a sexeh woman ![]() _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
JavaGuy - Student ![]() |
I had another thought: Linux is open-source while Windows is hidden for the same reason that beautiful girls sometimes pose nude while ugly ones keep hidden. ![]() _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
Well said Java guy. Especially about the virus stuff. That's what I was about to say but you said it first ![]() And about the OpenSource; WAAAAY too many ppl work on it, so it's more secure. If they find a bug they change it at that moment. But I suppose we can't do that with windows can we ![]() M$ releases SPs for that, but the problem with SPs is that even though the fix something, they scr*w something else ![]() ![]() Last, it's not 100% if that "M$ code leaked" is true. We just have to wait and see _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
JavaGuy - Student ![]() |
Open source prevents security problems by making the security mechanism transparent. Look at the various open source cryptosystems, for example. Over the years a few security holes have been found and fixed because every cryptophile in the world can look at the source code. Software people have huge egos and love the recognition they get from the open source community when they find a big "gotcha" that everyone else overlooked. When a company devises a proprietary cryptosystem, on the other hand, you have to trust that the company's in-house people are able to find every imaginable security flaw by themselves and that all the other software engineers in the world are incapable of finding anything that little team of people may have overlooked. Sound plausible? Not to me. I've worked at a company where a vendor tried to push a proprietary cryptosystem on us. They wouldn't show us the source, and when I asked technical questions about key management they changed the subject and just assured us that nobody could crack it because their engineers were very clever. So we were supposed to trust, without having seen the source code, that nobody in the world could find any problem that they might have overlooked. They did not get the contract. What's more, there's really no such thing as "closed source" software. If you've got Winblows, then you can reverse-engineer it. The difference is that it's a real pain to do so. The only people with the money and motivation to do so are people a with less than pure reasons for doing it. Open source software is constantly poured over by people simply looking to modify/enhance it for their own personal use, for business or just for fun, and that's how most security flaws get found and fixed. If I'm tinkering with open source and find a security flaw, I can write up a little report on the flaw and publish it for the world to see. Again, software people have huge egos and love this kind of thing. On the other hand, if someone is reverse engineering the Winblows code and finds a security flaw, what can he do? Report to the world that he was illegally hacking proprietary software? Bad idea. Discreetly contact Microsoft and expect them to be oh-so-grateful? Heh heh. Keep quiet? Again, the ego thing. Use it to write a virus and stick it to Microsoft for putting out such crappy software? I think we have a winner. At least that's been the choice most hackers seem to have gone with thus far. With open source, finding and reporting a security flaw gets you the ego boost and you don't risk prison time. Plus it looks great on a resume (much better than prison time, unless you're applying for a job with the Mafia). I don't think the leaked Microsoft code makes much difference except in terms of public relations. Middle-management types think that Winblows security is based on the code being a big secret. Software engineers know that very nearly the opposite is actually true. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. This comment was edited by JavaGuy on Feb 15 2004 06:25pm. |
Jello` - Student ![]() |
Bah I heard it was only 5% of NT sp1 and 2000 both of which they are going to drop support for, so I dont think much is going to happen Quote: Security officials said the compressed files amounted to a CD-Rom's worth of data and represented less than five percent of Windows code. However, they warned it may relate critical security functions. From Yahoo.com's coverage _______________ Brady Brothers: Orion-Greg, Furi0us-Peter, Me-Bobby. Long lost cousin to Flash. Midbie Council #007. Ex-JAK. This comment was edited by Jello` on Feb 15 2004 04:46pm. |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
Yeah that's for sure ![]() ![]() ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
DJ Sith - Jedi Council ![]() |
I'm sorry for them. They'll have to rewrite a large part of their OS now. That's gonna suck for them. ![]() _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
Steinin - Student ![]() |
Can't say I'm sorry for Microsoft. ![]() _______________ 362 Ohi on! |
Orion - Retired ![]() |
virus writers in teh sence that they only write code to do malicious activity, people who write code to find broken things in the operating system and notify m$ or write some sort of patch i have repsect for, even though m$ sucks, the operating system must be secure. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
Ashyr - Student ![]() |
My comp caught Virus once. It coughed on me, then I had to stay home for 3 days throwing-up _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
Quote: and if u were to write a virus, i will no longer have any respect for you, i have zero respect for virus writers. Well writing a virus is the evil way to show M$ they got a leak in their OS. The normal way would be to just tell them. M$ doesn't treat us the best way possible does it? ![]() And btw, why do you have zero respect for virus writters? They are skillful programmers ![]() But since I can't write a virus, gain your respect back ![]() ![]() Oh and JKA runs fine on linux as long as you don't have all those problems I got with Redhat *kicks redhat* What other distro would ya suggest? _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Ashyr - Student ![]() |
I'm not really worried about the whole MicroSoft industry crashing, but I'm AM worried about the effects of it. Millions of buisnesses around the world run on Windows comps. If hackers were able to crack through their systems, it could be devistating. Banks, Car companies, Huge Corperations, and even little buisnesses could be hacked through. That WOULD have a huge impact on the economy. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
Orion - Retired ![]() |
Cmad microsoft has had a source code licence agreement with many companies for years. Its not their fault its the company Mainsoft's fault for letting the source code sit on a insecure server, and if u were to write a virus, i will no longer have any respect for you, i have zero respect for virus writers. and yes JA runs great on linux _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u This comment was edited by Orion on Feb 14 2004 04:52pm. |
Steinin - Student ![]() |
Does JA run well on Linux? _______________ 362 Ohi on! |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
Yeah I guess the world economy would be scr*wd :/ And all this cuz they all depend on M$ ![]() Quote: And Virus's usually are made to attack windows probably because of open source hacker kiddies. "ooooooo, I found a security leak in windows I'll exploit it and cause that evil company problems." Buzz if I had the ability (i.e. found the security hole) to create a virus for Windows I sure would. M$ is evil and therefore must die ![]() About the fact that winsock code was leaked. Yeah that's bad I guess. Security is going to be really weak now. Maybe a quick service pack can fix that? That'll teach M$ a lesson, giving away their valuable OS code (why didn't they just give out Win95 code?). Maybe now more ppl will turn to Linux, who knows. But till then yeah as you said and I agreed, the economy is going doooown. And that's bad. Well it's M$'s fault again. They give out OS source code, didn't they foresee this result? ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Orion - Retired ![]() |
cmad: some of the source taht was released contains the winsock code and ie code which can lead to some bad problems, and microsoft is probably using winsock in longhorn, which means they might have to rewrite some of those. yes microsoft is 'evil' but a lot of people still depend on them. _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
Buzz - Student ![]() |
well cmad if you read the article link I posted you'll notice how the source likely got spread. Microsoft has been releasing bits of it to software developers, governments, and universities. The reason for saying its bad for the economy is simple. A lot of companies run windows based computers. When virus's are spread to them it clogs their e-mail, computer use. They have to spend the time checking filtering erasing fixing all the problems the virus caused. The Blaster Worm cost millions of dollars in down time. And Virus's usually are made to attack windows probably because of open source hacker kiddies. "ooooooo, I found a security leak in windows I'll exploit it and cause that evil company problems." You know damn well that if you were in Bill Gates shoes you probably would have done everything exactly the same as he had done with microsoft. Yeah its a big evil company right. But they aren't trying to ruin the productivity of the world. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
Who cares about M$'s economy? As a matter of fact, who cares about M$? ![]() ![]() And open source doesn't necessarily mean virus parade ![]() ![]() ![]() BTW: There's no reason to care about when LongHorn is going to be released orion ![]() _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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