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NPC spawning on the servers
Feb 20 2004 02:41am

 
 - Student
Look guys, I don't mean to be grouchy or whatever, but can you chill with spawning NPC's on the servers? I mean, the NPC room, sure, that's cool, but i'm talking the JAK+ spawning Tauntauns, Wampas, Rancors, Dark Jedi, and everything in between, in large numbers, on the servers. Why?

A) It causes lag.
B) It causes server crashes.
C) They attack EVERYONE - even those who don't want to mess around with NPC's.
D) We have a perfectly good NPC room on the map, and a vehicle room when Beta 3 is released.

So yeah... please, chill with the npc spawning! :(

Poll
Should there be less NPC use on the servers?

vote results
Yes! Yes! [5 votes] [19%]
No! No! [3 votes] [11%]
They should be banned completely! They should be banned completely! [1 vote] [4%]
They should only be used occassionally! They should only be used occassionally! [18 votes] [67%]

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Feb 22 2004 03:42am

CoRRUPTioN
 - Ex-Student
 CoRRUPTioN

I think once the final version of the map is released all the npc stuff downstairs will have auto respawn so there should be no need for npc spawning less its demonstrative purposes only, also when u spawn sumit it lags every for a second or so till it renders it is teh pain in the butt. Just my opinion of cause cos j00 asked 4 it :P
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Feb 22 2004 01:46am

WindOfDeath
 - Student
 WindOfDeath

I think this was a great topic to bring up. When JAT's spawn NPC's it causes everyone to go nuts. Not only the studetns but even JAK's+. If you spawn a taun taun on the server of course more people are gonna want one cause they're fun to ride but then the JAT is going to have to spawn one for everyone causing lag. I just suggest that there shouldnt be any npc spawning in the Home servers. Whats the point you have a swoop track and you have npcs to kill in the npc room why do we need to spawn other things. I got into trouble once when JAT's started spawning npc's. I got into a disagreement with on of the JAT's and i got dropped from my paddy position from my master. Use me as an exmaple and please cut down the spawning of npc's.
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Feb 22 2004 01:17am

Monteeeeeee
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 Monteeeeeee

the novelty of spawning has worn off most JAT's so u wont see much anymore :) i only spawn when people either ask me too, or im bored, and i wanna prove i can kill a rancor by myself :D
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Feb 22 2004 01:13am

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

Agrees with arons most recent comment,

Surely if using guns outside the normal gun area requires everyone to agree then spawning vehicles outside the vehicle area should require everyone to agree also.

And since there is not a rancor area then you always have to ask to spawn a rancor,

I still remember a very annoying time while having a bryar duel in fort when a mutant rancor is spawned there and im told to not use guns ...

That just seems wrong for so many reasons i wont begin to explain em unless someone asks,

While I don't see a noticable change in lag while there are a few npcs on server, there is a definate spike just as the creature is spawned, I know some have to experiance this frequently but having everything freez for about a half-second in the middle of a duel is very problematic. It is even worse than a long lagout as your opponent often doesnt realise you lagged and has no reason to stop attacking even if he is conciderate.

One of those big messages in the middle of the screen(dont know proper name). just before spawning would solve this.
though these can also be annoying :(

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This comment was edited by Squibit on Feb 22 2004 01:17am.

Feb 20 2004 01:49pm

Menaxia
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 Menaxia

Well as JJ said, on the next map there will be designated areas for npc's and that sort of thing. Everything in moderation is good for ppl:D
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Feb 20 2004 01:18pm

Jacen Aratan
 - Student

I agree with JJ, as well as Acey. When the JAT+ says 'no', then respect it. :)

Feb 20 2004 01:12pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Spawning should probably only be done when very few people are on, and everyone agrees with it. It's a fun thing when the few people that are on are bored as hell ;)

This comment was edited by Aron on Feb 20 2004 01:13pm.

Feb 20 2004 11:37am

CuZzA
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 CuZzA

i agree wid fizz
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Feb 20 2004 11:36am

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

yeah, I see your point. I also find it rather useless on a crowded server. if there are 2-3 peeps on, and its all dull & boring, spawn a few, but else... tsk....

and yeah its JAT+ that have NPC access, by the way.

Maybe we should only allow NPC access on classes ?
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Feb 20 2004 11:30am

Kueller
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 Kueller

UHm, since when have JAK's acces to spawning???? Thought that was only the JAT's.
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Feb 20 2004 11:14am

Aron
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 Aron

lol acey, but we STILL had fun yesterday! ;)

I agree somewhat though. NPCs shouldnt be spawned all the time, but sometimes a server just goes too quiet, and everyone gets bored... ;)
Just go easy on them, especially if you don't have the ability to restart the server..


Feb 20 2004 06:49am

Acey Spadey
 - Student
 Acey Spadey

thanks Java..

*turns off pron download while on servers*'

yah I've seen this.. also.. it's not just the JAK's. most of the time it's at the Students request that the jak or higher is spawning creatures and stuff.. and it's always..

hey can you spawn this.. I wanna show you something *person crashes craft* no wait.. lemme try again..

*next person*
hey can I have a tiefighter.. oohh comon.. gimmie gimmie. hurry up

*next group*
hey comon whens our turn.. gives us more..
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Feb 20 2004 04:51am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

To be sure, every NPC consumes server resources, but I have serious doubts as to whether a JAK spawning a tauntaun and riding around on it causes a measurable lag. I'm sure there's a point where the NPCs lag the server, but one tauntaun is not it, nor, I suspect are two. Tauntauns are also great fun to det launch across the courtyard!

I've said this before, but I'll say it again: Every time I've seen someone on the server complaining about how "the server" is lagging because of NPCs, I hit tab to show everyone's ping and invariably see that the person making the complaint is lagging while, somehow, other people are not. If the server lags, everybody lags, not just one person or two. I've been on the server when we had four TIE bombers in the fort, and I experienced no lag at all.

Can NPCs lag the server? Sure! But don't assume that's what's happening just because you experience lag. It could just be your porn download.


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Feb 20 2004 04:10am

Lian Del Rey
 - Student
 Lian Del Rey

I only spawn on private servers, but yeah, every time a JAK+ enters (well, almost every time) they have to spawn a tauntaun and ride on it.
Then they spawn a rancor and a big@$$ load of a certain group of enemy people.
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