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Dante Valmont - Retired  |
It took me a while to write this, because i kept on trying for someway to make the truth fade but i can't deny it. If you knew me, if you sort of new me, if you heard my name or never heard of me, read this and hopefully you will learn from my mistakes. How do you define what is real and what isn’t real? Where do you draw the line? When you first look at this question, it seems so easy to answer. Then when you try to sit and answer it, the question suddenly beings to change. Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast and Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy; both just games? Of course when I first played I knew one and just played around as if it were a basketball game for playstation. As I became a little better, and grasped more concepts, more of my personality slowly forged itself into the game. I met more people, made friends and numerous enemies. I was determined, determined to be the best and known as such throughout the entire community. I wanted this goal so bad I made sacrifices in character, hours wasted as well sitting there, striving to be better. As my talent grew, so did my ego and my want for power. I joined my first clan, CW, hoping to make it to the top of the server. I needed something to define myself be, so I became THE lamer hunter and tried to get attention for it. Eventually I was ridiculed by my clan for it and thus ended the lamer hunter days of Dante Valmont. In between that time, I worked on dueling, using a red single swing and winning most of my matches, claming to be the best, to be unbeatable. Then I met a woman who changed my life. Her name was Pink. She had been away when I joined the clan, and several weeks after that. In the beginning, we dueled and went 2-2 duel wise. Then, I hit a roadblock. I couldn’t beat her. I obsessed about it, made excuses until they ran out, and went crazy. It was the worst feeling in the world losing to her 20s some times in a row, a huge blow to my ego and pride, my first real feeling of pain from the Jedi outcast GAME. I wish I could have that time and pain back now. I went into a huge slump, losing left and right, depressed I had been humiliated and my skill wasted. I met a man called Ifritdave in my clan and he began to teach me the basics of the yellow style. I limited myself to it for a week, originally intending to use it as an excuse when I lost. However, time passed and I found myself progressing, becoming much better and extended my training indefinitely. I moved up the ranks in CW fairly quickly, doing anything to gain power and prestige. I manipulated people, finding out my ability to make things happen the way I wanted them. I learned I could make someone win or lose a duel with a few words spoken before. That’s when I learned the first of the three virtues of the game, mindset or the mind. My ego had blown out of proportion at this point, so many people getting sick of me. The clan split three ways and I got all 3 sides angry with me. I met the blue stars and became a blue star hunter, hoping to get one for myself to show everyone I was good. But the more I beat them and bragged, the more I realized my chances of joining them slipped away. I had become near unbeatable to the people in the server, except for one. A man named Markism, who would still prove a great challenge when I reached my near peak in jk2, destroyed me every time. After losing at least70 duels to him in the span of my time there, I finally beat him. Never did I brag so much in my life but it was the first time victory of a gal tasted sour. An event and pattern that would reoccur many times for me. He congratulated me on my improvement and skill, yet I let my pride get in the way and shoved it down his face. I didn’t understand this lingering emotion, nor did I try to. A few more weeks passed and in order for our clan to stick together, we split into three teams so we could fight each other. Three captains were chosen: Markism, Pink and Fancy Pants. One day, in the server, I met a person with a weird name, fought and lost. I figured it was a fluke, fought twice more, won once and then lost once. The person gave me advice, saying I needed to be more patient. I ridiculed them for giving me advice but I decided to try it out secretly. Next duel I crushed them. We fought more and as I used the advice, I won quicker and quicker. The person told me I learnt faster than anyone they had ever met and offered me more advice. They told me my only weakness is my ego and it would be the only reason I’d lose when my skill became greater. I knew this person was in disguise, so I begged them for their name. I was shocked when the named switched to Pink. The last thing she said was I’ll be watching you and then she left. I couldn’t believe it, the women who had made me feel my first real pain, had taught me the second virtue of the game, patience. Over the next week, she popped in as different names, teaching me lessons I still uphold today. I was her padawan. Over that time, my entire attitude changed and I fought against my ego, which would prove to be a long, never ending struggle. When the time to pick the 2 teams, I was pink’s second pick, unheard of since their were many more higher ranked than myself. When I asked her why she was training me, she told me she saw that I had the potential to be the best in the game ever or the absolute worst in the game ever, a real light or dark side type of deal. She wanted to see me prosper, so she chose me. Eventually, I grew into a near unstoppable force, rarely getting beaten. One of the most proud days of my time there was when pink, my master, declared I had surpassed her. It was a great honor, a very great honor to surpass her. CW was diminishing; a man I hated took to power and caused the near downfall of the clan. That is when pink and I left, never to see each other ever again. I roamed servers for a week, destroying and getting a bit of my ego back. I went to a server called Jedi lounge 24/7. There, I bragged going 20-1 and then caught myself. I let my old ego creep up on me and totally lost it. After correcting myself, I met a man named Futygre and dueled him alone on the pad of the matrix map. He lost almost everytime; over thirty duels yet kept going at it and even beat me a few times. He offered me clanship but I refused at the time. Little did I know his sister was watching us at his request, later to become the love of my life and an influence in every decision I made from there on. I could go on forever about Renee and I, but I won’t. Just know my ego was practically no more the first time I met her. While considering to join Jedi, I met DLG- Sovereign and DLG-Blah, whom after dueling me, invited me into their “elite” clan. Most of the guys in the clan (which was about 12 due to how hard it was to get in) were cocky and unhonorable. They were just like I used to be, and It killed me to watch them knowing I was like that before. Then they spoke of a place where one of our members, Inuyasha, trained. Sov told me they hated us and banned our clan because they didn’t like to lose. Later I learned it was because of DLG’s attitude. As fate would have it, I took it upon myself to defeat this entire JA, this Jedi academy, and I went into one of Luke’s classes with Inuy one day. We talked about a lot of things, Luke and I, and then dueled. He would be the best dueler I would ever face, become as close as anyone could to becoming a brother and showed me this place for what it truly was. I also learned the third and final key to the game; everything is timing. DLG finally disbanded and I joined Jedi, which I would follow through the end of jk2 and the beginning of jk3. When I say the end of jk2, I mean myself putting the memories and skill I had behind me to start anew. I remember everyone’s’ hype for jk3, yet I grew more depressed. When the leaked version came out, I played and hated it the first time. So I deleted it and waited till release. Alas, the final tournament of jk2 had come and Luke was in the opposite side of the bracket, so naturally it was assumed Luke and I would fight..Maybe. However, I had the toughest road to the finals that tournament. That was, the last time I would ever give my full-fledged effort to jk2 or jk3. I beat Saitou, then IDS Lupin, then Jedi Dreamless. I was expecting to face Luke but he somehow lost to Motoko, whom I beat in the finals. I went undefeated the whole tournament and after each match, I had my guy cross my arms and stare off the Bespin pad. AT that time, I was thinking of everything I had accomplished and how far I had come. If I hadn’t felt crushed before, this was the time that killed me. And with their day, so ended my jk2 career. Jk3 was finally out and of course I bought it. My god was I horrible and I enjoyed losing, but hated the game. To go from a place with such honor, such passion and understand to what I see now, I was mentally unprepared for it. No one cared about honor; everyone immediately dropped the single saber and went to the new. Everyone changed who they were to me, and I felt alone, fighting a war by myself. The war I am referring to is the revival of jk2 mentality in jk3. That first week I talked to Luke, and we made a pact because he felt as I did. We would bring the jk2 mentality and honor back and revive what was now lost. It was agreed he would work with the academy in getting people back on track and I would travel from server to server, spreading the truth of honor and invoking emotion in others, showing them what this game really is. I traveled and with each new server I visited, I found myself losing hope and my sanity. Never did I like jk3 nor will I ever. I have never had fun playing it, yet I still do. It is hard to explain why I play it, but we’ll get to that soon. There was a decision in clan Jedi I couldn’t bear so I took my leave and continued to preach from server to server. In that short amount of time, I surpassed what I was in jk3 and had become practically unbeatable in all honest. To keep myself from losing sanity as I kept my promise, I started not trying and learned how to partition my skill. God it sounds so ridiculously cocky..But it isn’t to me because it’s the truth. It’s a way for me to bear the unbearable. If I never wanted to lose, I could honestly not lose. Although I still think Luke would be able to beat me, but that would be about it. I met many people in the JA at this time, teaching them and passing on my teachings. I refused to take a padawan again however, due to my failures with my first two. The first one was back in jk2 when I was in CW, his name was Twinkie. I taught him skill, no discipline or morals and in short, he turned out like what I used to be…and never made any progress. My last padawan, Dacascos, I taught him skill but with the code of honor and discipline I follow. He followed what I told him, learned phenomenally well and was a model padawan, just what I wanted. I was going to pass down the Kami-Owari style as well as some hidden techniques..But I failed him to. To this day, I question myself if there was anyway I could have avoided what happened..And I always will regret it. So now we are up to present day, my pending..Well..Certain retirement at the end of this letter. I have chosen Jaiko D’kana as my successor to the Kami-Owari style. He knows what it truly means, it is now his style to work with and teach, he is the only other who knows the true meaning of what it is. I will, however, tell one other person and that is Renee, if she ever asks. Jaiko reminds me of what I wanted to be, and there isn’t anyone I’d rather give the style to than him. His potential is amazing; he will soon be the best you have ever faced. But I will make sure he doesn’t become what I was. Don’t let being the best consume you. I play this game because I am bond to it; it’s not even a game for me anymore, its sad. It’s routine to me, a part of my life..It’s integrated into me. I will honestly say, never once have I had fun playing jk3. I have given it my all and now, it is my time. I am laying down my saber, never to pick it up again for competitive duel. I will still hang around the servers when I get a chance occasionally, but no more dueling for me at all. A week or two ago, I told Luke and virtue I wanted my legacy to be remembered for eternity. It was not until I began writing this, that I realized my ego would still remain and still battle me, no matter how honorable or how hard I fight it. I find myself realizing whether those I’ve met remember who I am or not, they will never forget the lessons that I taught them, the help I have given them, the laughter I’ve shared with the. It is impossible to leave this community once you are in, nor would I have any desire to. I am retiring from what made me who I am before you today, a man of confusion, a man of passion, a man of foolish and unfoolish pride. I dedicate my remaining time to strictly teaching when I can, and hoping that someday, what once was the place I took for granted, the attitude I took for granted, become alive once more. I want to thank all of you who have ever met me or talked to me or dueled me, you have all made an impact on my life. A game, just a game….No…much more than a game. A reality beyond reality, a place of limitless possibility depending on your mind. A great scholar once wrote, “I think, therefore I am.” Nothing is truer than that statement. Think wisely, very wisely, because a mind is your most powerful weapon. I apologize for the teacher’s tone I have, it is something I will not be able to get rid of. I ask you all, remember why you are here and what kind of person you want to be here, and then do it. The best advice I can give anyone here for a problem, whether in game, dueling or in your real live. Two words, five letters. Fix it. With passion, with pride, with honor. ~Dante Valmont ~Eric “Passion Rules Reason” _______________ "A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary" |
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Dan - Student |
Dante, i read this quite a while back, and i didn't post then cos i knew i would say summat real daft. i wasn't gonna post this now, but after i met you again dante i feel that i must post this. Some ppl may say that it is only a game, but its not only a game in the sense that you complete it and thats it. think about the jedi academy. the jedi academy is used by many as...a social area a place to chill out, be with friends and enjoy yourself, i totally agree with nearly every pointthat you made in this post. i'll tell you all the truth, i'm totally obsessed with it, i always want to beat everyone but it is people like you, jaiko, luke, virtue, the list goes on, that makes that a real challenge, and i doubt i will ever succede. i consider this place to be more than just a game server, it is a place where i can meet people and enjoy playing against them, in which peoples personality can really show. i wish to tell you, that i admire what you have overcome and the person that you are now. just as i admire the person you have passed on you knowledge to, jaiko. you are both the people who i look up to in this place, and i really felt that i needed to say that, and let you know what great guys you are. -Aiden |
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Quote: Is anyone missing the fact that...... ummmmm.. this is only a game?? Sure Viper, this is a game, but these games are played by humans. And in multiplayer mode, you more or less compete with other humans. This will awaken your competitive spirit, to be the best you can. On the other side is the fact that you will communicate with those humans too. Both of them changes you, your attitude, your skills etc. And from that point on, I don't think its merely a video game anymore. For me Dante described himself, his changing self, his improving self. I appreciate it. That' my 2 cents. Cossyc _______________ When Chuck Norris is late, time better slows the **** down. If you want to make God laugh... just tell Him about your plans. |
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Jaiko D'Kana - Student 
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JJ, as i understand (and i dont want to talk for him) But dante never really cared how people percieved him. He never messured himself against other people, only himself. "The message taught is more important than the teacher" If Dantes reputation is at stake, it doesnt matter to him, all he cares about is teaching and he will do anything to try to help. For those of you that didnt know Dante, he is a nice guy and he knows what he is talking about. But one thing he doesnt do is hand you everything on a silver platter, to reap the benifits you must stretch yourself and dig deep to find meaning and this can take time, on occasion it has littereally taken me months to work out the meaning behind one of dantes teachings.........But in the end, I got out of it more than the effort i put in. plz dont take offence to anything i have said, i am mearly giving my insite. Take care everbody -JaikoD'Kana- _______________ The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind. William James (1842 - 1910) |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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You got a good point here Viper.  Anyway, I'm not going to choose any side, but I just think Dante wanted 2 things: to give some hints about the Kami Owari (and you're free to accept or deny that) and also to make people react. JJ, don't you think Dante knew what kind of reactions his thread will generate ? I'm not defending the way he did that, but I'm defending Dante's intelligence. Probably all people who met him can say he's a nice, caring and clever guy. So why people assume now that he's just a prick because he spoke his mind in order to deliver a message- nothing more -to us? . Although Dante is a friend for me, such long posts in all JA forums make me try to read between the lines, to uncover what's hidden behind the words. Most people just take into account their first reading and keep that interpretation as the right and only one. Now I do not really agree on how Dante did all this, but I understand why he did it this way. Erm, well, I'm done, sorry if I interrupted  _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan  - [DJ is my beloved wife!  - JA Family: Brothers:
Virtue, Furi0us, Vladarion, Hardwired, Janus, Axion, D@RtHM@UL, Motrec, Mike , xAnAtOs , Luke Skywalker; Little bro to SilkMonkey ; Special kind of brother to Kenyon ; Sisters in-law: Rosered, Ain-Soph Aur] Photoshop works: click here |
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VIPER or BlaCk - Student |
Is anyone missing the fact that...... ummmmm.. this is only a game?? Even though I did not know you, goodluck with everything and hope you play again. _______________ Some say VIPER is just a LEGEND............but my friend........he is a REALITY |
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Dante, the reason people replied making light of your ego, is simply that you gave us a great big "I'm better than you!" in that post. Whether it was intended as it was or not, the fact is, no matter who you are, everybody, as a person, is equal. It occured to me that, after reading through all of this, it just seems like a ploy to gain some attention. People "put you down" in an effort to make you realise that, even if you're the best or not, at the end of the day, you're equal to everybody here. All you are, is a person who plays a video game. You just happen to be pretty good at that video game. That doesn't make you a better person than anybody here. So you weren't having fun, so you "retire". That's all fine and well, but there's no need to treat people like you did with this post. Whether it meant you were trying to display an elitist attitude, or whether you wanted to have a little experiment, I couldn't care less. I just think this thread has went WAY off course, topic-wise. You're retiring, which is a shame. However, do you want people to remember you as Dante Valmont, the egotistical prick, or Dante Valmont, a really nice guy? If you care about your reputation, you wouldn't have done this... at least, that's what I think. You've lost a bit of respect from me, for what it's worth. Though, I still respect that you're a genuinely caring guy. Goodluck in life, Eric.. just don't pull this crap again. |
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Well, Dante, i'm sad to see u leave. Everything u posted here is absolutely true for me also. Not with JK2/3 (ask any student ) but with Vietcong. I got waaay too cocky with scores like 45 kills and 2 deaths. I got so cocky that whenever sum1 killed me ONCE, i became obsessed. I had only one goal - to kill that person at least 15 times for every 1 kill they gave me. i was obsessed. I observed this player from a distance through my sniper scope. I followed their patterns. I put away my sniper rifle. I unsheathed my knife. I hid in a bush, obsessive, waiting for my one goal. I would stay motionless and waiting. I would wait for the right moment to jump from the bush and stab him. I kill him with a single head shot. I wouldn't let him fire a single shot nor even see me. It's at these times, that i become TRULY obsessive, and to be honest, it scares me! I have begun to overcome it tho. Anyway, gd luck in life etc etc lol. Sad to see u go Dante. _______________ JK2 pwnz0rs JK3. |
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Dante Valmont - Retired 
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I guess since people still like talking about it, and after a small chat with my fried Faded yesterday i'll convey one of the meanings. That ever popular statement, i couldn't lose if i really didn't want to, seems to contract what else i am trying to say. Look at the replies here. People i rarely knew or didn't even knew, felt it was their duty to post here and put me down for saying such a thing, that i was superior to all. When someone claims they are better, look how many people flock here to post and put me down, to prove me wrong with words. People who have their ego well under control, wouldn't even bother posting about that and would, like a lot of people, just say i'll miss you and blah blah blah. People can see through that, that have no need to show their ego. What i was trying to prove here is that though some may think we have control of our ego, we don't. Nor can we ever completely destory it. I still have some of my ego, i always have and always will. But i have lowered it considerably from where it started. Faded yesterday, told me people were losing a lot of respect for me. However, everyone who knew me or could understand what i meant, hadn't. That's why i'm posting this, he made me realize people won't try to see what i try to convey. Which is why i have been going to the server still now, teaching some people when i still can, its what i love to do. I'm not condemning anyone here, thats why i'm thanking all those who post to criticize me. We can get our ego's undercontrol, yet they can truely never fade. The message taught, is more important than the teacher.I made a sacrifice in my good name, my character that people respected to make this post. It's another way to keep my ego in check. Love me or hate me, if you look hard enough, you will see more. If anyone continues to post on this thread, I will continue to convey more messages i meant..unless, which i'm hoping, would be that you can pick them out for me..but not jaiko. Because you already know them all, they are the basis for the kami-owari style. Cheater Take care everyone and thank you.~Dante Valmont _______________ "A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary" |
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Most people have an inner-struggle with their ego... the difference here is, most people succeed. |
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Xanatos - Student 
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Hm, I never really met Dante I dont think, only a few duels we had which he lost, due to some lag probably . I am sure that Jaiko here will keep his promise and become one of the very best, and become a master of the kami owari style. Im glad that we share the same idea when it comes to accomplishing a goal in this game or even in rl, that anyone can do it.. its a just do it think, fix it I respect joo saying that.Thx for saying what u did L-rod. Just kill the ego before it kills you,I myself struggle with at times :/. The joy is in the journey, Good luck , u too bro. _______________ This comment was edited by Xanatos on Mar 23 2004 04:48pm. |
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FaDed - Student 
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i wouldn't call it frustrating. i would say it's more of a compliment. knowing that they used what you taught them. i find great joy in watching my students succeed. |
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NofrikinfuN - Retired 
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Ya know, cheesy as it may sound, the greatest challenge in this game is teaching someone else to play it well. Perhaps you would be less bored showing others what you believe they're doing wrong. Ya know, bringing them "up to your level". Then again, theres nothing more frustrating than being beaten by your own student. >_< |
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Jaiko D'Kana - Student
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Well.....its true.........this is exactly how he planned it _______________ The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind. William James (1842 - 1910) |
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Chainer - Ex-Student 
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see dude hter ur again u planned for this to happen we are all dantes pawns =p |
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Sared - Retired 
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/me wants everyone to know that his last comment, WAS, indeed, a joke. /me agrees with AuroN, so he pastes it to word and double-spaces it _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Avean - Student 
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These people below must be lying because there is no way a human can read this . Have you ever heard of spaces ? My eyes don`t know where to focus on to the next line because every line is squished together.... whoa :O _______________ Do you believe I need eyes to see or ears to hear? |
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Sared - Retired
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.......... /me goes and blows it out his ear _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Dante Valmont - Retired
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Do you see the comments and thought process of everyone posting for or against what i said? The thought process, understanding..i am pleased, very pleased in everyone whom has posted. Hidden meanings, is a common frase here. Why would i put a post about me battling with my ego and then say something like i could never be beaten if i really wanted to? Look how much you are focusing on that little line, which i planned on being the most focused on line. My post is doing what was intended to do, and for that, i am really happy how my retirement has gone so far. Thank you everyone for your comments, and please see if you can find any other "hidden meanings" i have left for you. Whomever said i wouldn't write that long of a post without a purpose, is absolutely correct. _______________ "A teacher is one who makes himself progressively unnecessary" |
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Chainer - Ex-Student 
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rods totally right dante u always wer like that even in jk2 when u werent even that good...........but ill cya it was always nice dueling ya |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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I have to agree with Jaiko; you don't mock someone in their retirement thread (unless they've done something really stupid, like me some months ago ). If you do that, the next step would be to stick a "lamest person ever" tag on your back and walk around showing it off. Okay the fact that he said that if he didn't wanna lose he wouldn't is a bit extreme, but only if you take it 100% literally. If you get the deeper meaning of the thread you'll know what Dante wants to share with us. He wants to share with us his weakness. His passion for power makes him even more powerful yet a worse person. When he realized it had gotten out of hand, he had no other solution than what he did. I don't think he made SUCH a long post to boast about his skills. Just think about it, - cmad _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Odan-Wei Belouve - Student 
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Well, I'm gonna back Jaiko on this one. I4ve met Dante, I've played with him a lot. Now I consider I'm only a decent player, I'm easily beatable. Now when you play Dante, you may find he's full of himself, when you read this post you are almost sure... But the man is different from what you think this post says. Everytime I trained with Dante, he knew exactly what to say to make me understand the things he wanted to teach. He also duelled me a good bunch of times and I won like 3 times, out of extrem concentration and patience. Dante is a amazing player and What he wanted to say IMO, is that no matter how strong his opponents are, he would always be able to beat them. That's just a proof of determination, not the bragging of someone who retires with anger or whatever. Anyway, you must know the man in order to understand the post, and you must not judge the man upon a single comment. My $0.02  Odan-Wei _______________ Padawan and brother to SmilyKrazy - Adopted in the Belouve Family by Fizz and Bubu, BELOUVE ON! - Vladarion, you'll always be in my heart and memories - Spam-Padawan of Jacen Aratan - [DJ is my beloved wife! - JA Family: Brothers:
Virtue, Furi0us, Vladarion, Hardwired, Janus, Axion, D@RtHM@UL, Motrec, Mike , xAnAtOs , Luke Skywalker; Little bro to SilkMonkey ; Special kind of brother to Kenyon ; Sisters in-law: Rosered, Ain-Soph Aur] Photoshop works: click here |
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Eeth Koth - Student 
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A very interesting post, to be sure Dante. I agree with most of lightning rod's statements however, if not all. I found it a curious addition to a retirement post to include how you thought you were unbeatable, which as most people know nobody is. Your post mentioned a struggle with ego you've had essentially since the beginning of your time here. Why would you include quite possibly the most egotistical thing you've ever said on your retirement post? I'm sure the intention of this post was to get people to realize what you went through, however the egotistical tone of the post can completely change some people's view of it. I apologize if this post steps on what you were trying to do, but I think I should say that leaving such a retirement post as it is could give people a lasting impression of you, but not the one that you want. If this post can truly be only understood fully by the select few who you think know you well enough, I question the reasoning for posting it on this forum for the world to see. The best teachers have their students surpass them. To claim to be the best and unbeatable as well as a born teacher, is contradictory in itself. Excluding Luke, I can think of several people who are at least your match in in game ability. Saying your unbeatable without playing everybody who owns JKA, and without acknowledging some losses that you may not want to, makes no sense to me. Anyhow, that was an interesting read. Of course I don't find it all completely accurate, however I believe that you believe everything you wrote, which is all that really matters. It is too bad you're retiring. You were a good player. But if the game is not fun, then yes, you are definately making the correct choice here. This comment was edited by Eeth Koth on Mar 08 2004 05:31pm. |
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Jaiko D'Kana - Student
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Ok, now before i start i wish to make it clear that i do not mean the following to be in anyway offensive to anybody. I am just expressing what i beleive; Sared, if this is how you interpret what Dante has said, then i beleive you have missed the purpose of this thread. Yes this is Dante's retirement thread, But it has a whole lot more meaning than you may have realised. Dante was primarily a teacher in this game, he took a teachers tone as he has done in this thread (which can be mis-interpreted) Im not going to reveal all of the secrets in here, becuase i beleive it is up to you. However i will explain it as to truly understand this, you really did have to understand Dante. Ok now again this is meant to inform and i hope i dont offend anybody. In Dante's post he say: "If i never wanted to lose, i could honestly not lose" One thing i learned from Dante, and probably one of the most important things is "mind set" If you beleive in something, its the honest truth that one day you can do it. I dont think this was an ingnorant self absorbed comment that most people seem to have made it out to be. I think he means that if anyone Beleives they can do something enough. They can do it. Dont try to take alot of this literally. Dante is simply doing what he always did. There are many more important lessons in this thread and to be quite honest its a little gold mine of litte tips IF you take the time to dig deep enough. Dante has taught me many things over the time i have known him, and alot of the more important things he told me are contain right here in this retirement post. Please dont jump to conclusions, and give it a chance. Many of you are now probably thinking; "Of course Jaiko would say this, dante chose him to be the successor of the Kami-Owari". But those of you who know me well enough know that i have my own morals and ethical codes, i dont follow ANYTHING that i dont persoannly agree with, and in my oppinion Dante, deep down is one of the nicest, most caring people i know. I dont know why anyone would feel the need to write sladerous comments on this post, even if what they have wrote is honest, writing such comments on someones parting post seems ...to me...at least..... a little selfish, but in the same token i also respect that you may not like Dante, or some of the things he did, or some of the things he said. And you do have the right to your own oppinions which i am in no way challenging. I just hope i have cleared up ...for some people the hidden meaning behind this post, in the hope that some people may learn something from it. Take care everyone -JaikoD'Kana- _______________ The greatest discovery of my generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitudes of mind. William James (1842 - 1910) |
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Sared - Retired 
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I think that this thread has outlived its usefulness. I Thank L-Rod for saying what I am sure many of us abstained from saying to avoid hurting feelings. May this end. _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Zoro Kakashi - Ex-Student 
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its just a fooka game retired or not, its a GAME _______________ "When did Noah built the Arc, before the rain, before the rain." |
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