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Mar 01 2004 09:55pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
doobie
These are the Academy's updated rules and regulations. I'm placing them here until DJ gets a chance to put them in the proper place. Mad props to Hardwired and Fizz for the updating!

::intro::

These are the rules you must follow. These rules apply to all servers and areas of the Jedi Academy, including IRC. If you are caught violating these, it will result in an official JA warning. You only get one warning. If you violate the rules again you will be banned from the Academy.
These rules are not all-inclusive, so if you recive an order from an Academy staffmember (Knight, Trainer or Council member) obey it.

If a rule violation occurs, take a screenshot or make a demo and report it to the nearest Knight or Trainer. In the case of emergency report it to a Council member.

Also, these rules may be subject to change without notice.

::rules::

1. Watch your mouths. A very small amount of swearing is ok, but if you take it over the top, you will get a warning. Racist/sexist/homophobic talk is extremely forbidden. This extends to the image you use on your profile and the name you use on the servers.

You may use a nickname other than your Academy name if you wish, but if a staffmember asks what your Academy name is you will have to tell them; failure to do so will result in a kick or ban. This is to ensure that we don't get intruders on the servers.

Please stick to the English language. A small chat in other languages is ok, but remember that English is the main language of the Academy.

2. Our servers are for the private use of our Academy members and no one else. Giving out the server passwords is not allowed. If someone asks you for the passwords, you are to direct them to the server page (member or non member). If you are found to have given out the password to someone you will be BANNED from the Academy regardless of warnings.

The classes servers may be used anytime w/o special permission. If however a staffmember asks you to leave, immediately do so without arguing. Also, during the action of a class, don't join the server if you do not want to participate in the class. Should a ranked member be present on the server, ask for her/his permission.

3. The Jedi Academy is clan neutral ground. We are a place to hang out; clan activities (recruiting, clan wars, etc.) are not to be held within the Academy.

4. There is absolutely NO fighting or agressive action unless agreed upon. If someone is attacking you against the rules, don't fight back. That simply lowers yourself to their level and further irritates the situation. Tempers rise, names are called, and bans are handed out when this happens, so take the high road. If someone is bothering you tell a staffmember. If it continues, report it to a staffmember, switch to spectator or take a break to calm down.
Along the same lines, it is not allowed to attack someone while they are typing (unless the typing icon appears while you are in the middle of an attack).

5. If it's not naturally bound to a key in the game, don't do it. A custom keyboard config is fine if it makes you comfortable, but no binding combo moves (DFA, lunge, etc).
Also, usage of a killtracker is not allowed on the servers.

6. Please keep guns in the gun area (the courtyard in JK2 and the fortress area in JK3). The same thing goes for setting det packs/trip mines traps outside that area. If we catch you doing this you'll be subject to disciplinary action. The only exceptions to this rule is if the presence of guns or traps outside of the gun area is OK with everyone on the server. If someone has a problem with it, even only one person, then don't do it.
Remember that tripmines stay in place after you disconnect, destroy them before leaving the server.

7. Any extraordinary activity (such as FFA, roleplaying, king of the hill, etc..) involving guns or other agressive actions outside the gun area or any other rule violation must be ok with everyone on the server.
To avoid confusion to people joining the server during such a session, stay clear of the spawnpoint, or tell them directly upon connecting.

8. When using the NPC room (Ask a staffmember if you are unsure of what the NPC room is.), only spawn as many NPC's as you can handle and no more that 5 at a time. Use your heads here. Note that the NPC room is there for training purposes only and should only be used for that. Abusive action of the NPC room will not be tolerated.
Also, do not continuously ask the Trainers to spawn things. Ask once and only once.

9. Do not stand in doorways as this affects the fps in the connecting rooms. Make a choice...in or out.
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::Map specific rules::

1. Vladarion's Memorial
The memorial is a sacred area for the Academy. Saber duels are tolerated in this area, but not in the direct perimeter of the memorial. You may not stand or sit on the memorial at all, nor are you allowed to saber or shoot at it. Remember, this is a memorial of one of our finest students who tragically passed away, treat it as such.

2. Mune's Bar
Mune's Bar is a place to chill and talk. Saber duels are allowed, but only if it doesn't affect other players in that area. And do NOT abuse the privacy booths.


*edit* ewwww its sticky.

*edit again* not anymore :D
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me

This post was edited by Aron on Mar 02 2004 10:03am.

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Mar 02 2004 10:23pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

Me too d00bster :P Let's stick to the proper English language :P
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Mar 02 2004 09:47pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

Aron, they're happy-happy-joy-joy pills, not happy-joy-joy pills... c'mon, don't you know your ren and stimpy?!?

oh, and dictatorship is fun if you're the dictator :P, although i think for the JA we should call it an parliamentary oligarchy... there's the oligarchs (the group, the council) at the top and then the parliament (the JAKs, JATs, and JASs) who guide the oligarchs.

btw, i prefer english english to american english...
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me


Mar 02 2004 08:20pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

man this is a loooooong post :P
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Mar 02 2004 08:09pm

Stimpski
 - Student
 Stimpski

Quote:
Are you sure the official language is English , or american? :P:P


I don't believe that there is a set official language, but most members speak even a tiny bit of English. So, they prolly feel it is easy to use English as the commonly used language in the JA.
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Mar 02 2004 08:03pm

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

Alright.

/me tosses happy-joy-joy pills into this thread.

If you refuse to even listen to other people, and just toss lame arguments both sides, do it elsewhere.

This is going nowhere.


Mar 02 2004 07:21pm

Sponse
 - Ex-Student
 Sponse

Quote:
and you're really just ignoring our point :)

it's all good though


Nope i don't, read trough my post again if you want to know what your answearing at.

Mar 02 2004 06:50pm

Squibit
 - Student
 Squibit

Just a small point,

Whether we like it or not (and i daresay many of us don't care AT ALL), the academy IS a dictatorship, Its not like all the students could have a vote and say

Ok thats it , doobie, Virtue etc, Get out of here !

If you choose to not join, or leave, because the supreme boss JAC doods can tell others what to do while in THIER academy with out acctualy finding out what it is like ,

to me it would seem you are very blinkered

"It sounds very much like a dictatorship to me"
- padme
"Well, if the system works"
- Anakin

no, wait, the system failed in that case with plapy taking over the galaxy,
Ok bad example. :P

Edit:

Are you sure the official language is English , or american? :P:P
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This comment was edited by Squibit on Mar 02 2004 07:02pm.

Mar 02 2004 06:47pm

Hardwired
 - Retired
 Hardwired

Oh...don't worry...we will...:D :D :D
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Mar 02 2004 06:38pm

Lord Vader
 - Ex-Student
 Lord Vader

Those are pretty nice riles you've got there. Be sure to catch everybody who disobeys them:D:alliance:
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This comment was edited by Lord Vader on Mar 02 2004 06:44pm.

Mar 02 2004 04:49pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

and you're really just ignoring our point :)

it's all good though
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me


Mar 02 2004 03:16pm

Sponse
 - Ex-Student
 Sponse

Quote:
Sponse, here's my 2 cents... Every country, no matter where you live, has an official language. Yet, in all free countries you are allowed to speak whatever language you wish. HOWEVER, official business (including things such as courts, where normal people participate) are conducted in the official language. This is so everyone can choose one language they need to know and have a basic understanding of. Not to mention that English is often considered the official language of business AND the internet. Granted, there are places that have 2 official languages (like Canada with English and French), but to be honest we don't have the resources nor is there the demand for us to translate everything to French, or Dutch, or any other language.

Also, we have everyone speak English to avoid misunderstandings, talking behind people's backs, and conspiracies. Sure that may be a little paranoid or extreme, but it keeps everyone on the same page and lets everyone avoid thinking they're being mocked in some language they can't understand. So basically the rule is staying as it is... if you don't like it... I'm sorry, it's not going to change. Your use of the word dictatorship is very harsh too. If there had been enough demand for Swahili to be the official language, or at least A official language, it would be one... but there isn't. 99.9% of the people here know english, and the .1% who doesn't either picks it up quickly or has someone translate for them


I'm sad to hear that, (Your realy just underlining my statements, without getting my point)
So il just let it be

Cheerios

Mar 02 2004 02:43pm

D@RtHM@UL
 - Student
 D@RtHM@UL

Very nice job on the rules Fizz and Hardwired :)

Mar 02 2004 02:27pm

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

don't add it cuz many ppl are gonna abuse it...
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Mar 02 2004 02:26pm

Orion
 - Retired
 Orion

Quote:
ok it says no chat-kill which makes sense but ive seen on several servers that they set it up so when someone brings up a chat box they cant be hurt. Maby u should put this setting (or mod i dont no) on the servers to completly get rid of chat-kill:alliance::alliance::alliance:


It could be added to a mod, but I see that being heavily abused, by people. So I dont see adding it.
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Mar 02 2004 01:56pm

doobie
 - Jedi Council
 doobie

Sponse, here's my 2 cents... Every country, no matter where you live, has an official language. Yet, in all free countries you are allowed to speak whatever language you wish. HOWEVER, official business (including things such as courts, where normal people participate) are conducted in the official language. This is so everyone can choose one language they need to know and have a basic understanding of. Not to mention that English is often considered the official language of business AND the internet. Granted, there are places that have 2 official languages (like Canada with English and French), but to be honest we don't have the resources nor is there the demand for us to translate everything to French, or Dutch, or any other language.

Also, we have everyone speak English to avoid misunderstandings, talking behind people's backs, and conspiracies. Sure that may be a little paranoid or extreme, but it keeps everyone on the same page and lets everyone avoid thinking they're being mocked in some language they can't understand. So basically the rule is staying as it is... if you don't like it... I'm sorry, it's not going to change. Your use of the word dictatorship is very harsh too. If there had been enough demand for Swahili to be the official language, or at least A official language, it would be one... but there isn't. 99.9% of the people here know english, and the .1% who doesn't either picks it up quickly or has someone translate for them
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-Academy Leader/Dictator/Defeater of DJ Sith and JACen Solo in the JAK+ Tournament
-I do think it (the JA) will help convert dozens, maybe hundreds, to the dork nation... --me


Mar 02 2004 01:40pm

Halendor
 - Ex-Student
 Halendor

Guess I typed up the rules section in the Holocron for nothing then ;)

Mar 02 2004 01:28pm

doomknight
 - Ex-Student

ok it says no chat-kill which makes sense but ive seen on several servers that they set it up so when someone brings up a chat box they cant be hurt. Maby u should put this setting (or mod i dont no) on the servers to completly get rid of chat-kill:alliance::alliance::alliance:
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Mar 02 2004 12:11pm

ClamP
 - Student
 ClamP

Ok guys, rulez are fine, but I can see only bottles of liquor in Mune's bar, where is food? I am a genetically-hungry pal...
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Mar 02 2004 11:53am

Sponse
 - Ex-Student
 Sponse

Quote:
Sponse you are not only jumping hierarchies here, but showing a lot of disrespect to the people that actually have been here for quite some time and revised the rules with a lot of experience.
And sure you wouldnt like everyone in the JA talking Latin, just because we all know you dont know latin. funny, isnt it ?


I would say i'm showing you alot of respect. Because i discuss it.

I'l post a suggestion for a reformulation, its not that i disagree that english should be the primary spoken language, but the way i got the impression of, is that this was more dictatorship than democracy, and personally i dont like that at all, i have manny years of leadership experience and treat all of my members as equals. Understand that i did not feel like this was the case here, and braught it up, i did not know that there was a special email for clearing up these sorts of "argues".

But il send the email there,

And Wolfwood, i would recon everyone to have to respect eachother that much, that when were that few we can speak english.

Think most of you missunderstood my intentions, or i formulated my sentences in a bad way. For this i apolegize.

Regards
Sponse

Mar 02 2004 11:34am

Wolfwood
 - Student
 Wolfwood

Sponse, I think you are taking it too personal. Let me make a little example.

Im dutch, like Aron, Robin Kenyon, and a lot of others and you dont see us talking dutch on the server all the time because its rude to speak a language that a lot of people dont understand. How would you feel if say Aron, Kenyon, me and you were on the server. And all we are doing is talking in Dutch. We could be talking about you but you wouldnt know since you don't understand what we are saying.

That is why we have this rule. Its not ment to be discriminating or offensive to other languages. Its made so that a language is being spoken that everyone understands. Its just something you will have to accept. If you want to speak in your own language, use the Personal Message mode (aka Messagemode3).
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Mar 02 2004 11:29am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

Sponse you are not only jumping hierarchies here, but showing a lot of disrespect to the people that actually have been here for quite some time and revised the rules with a lot of experience.
And sure you wouldnt like everyone in the JA talking Latin, just because we all know you dont know latin. funny, isnt it ?
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Mar 02 2004 11:24am

Monteeeeeee
 - Nugget
 Monteeeeeee

I read a couple of these comments and i think some new students dont understand our role here. So lemme explain :D

JAK.
Ok these guys police the servers so to speak, they dont go looking and watching your everymove, they too are there to have fun but if something happens they are there for you.

JAT
Ok Us guys and Gals teach classes mainly, sure we go on the servers out of class time and we wanna have fun as much as you, dont think that we are here to boss u about, we are here to make sure everyone is having a good time including ourselfs, we dont go out to punish people they do that themselfs. We will NEVER order a student around unless they have broken rules etc.. they will be asked to apologize, if they dont they will find themselfs being kicked off the server. Rememeber JAK can kick also...

About being Kicked..... there is 2 types of kicks, there is
A) Normal Kick where u are kicked and u can rejoin, this is used 99.9% of the time, wedont like banning people
B) Kick BAN meaning u are kicked from the server and reported to Buzz/Aron so they can decide how long u are banned for. If kicked banned u cant join the server again until the ban is uplifted, dont try changing ur name etc... it dont work. Your IP is banned so u wont get back on. If u have a dynamic IP that changes and u are found back on the servers u will be in big trouble.

Anyway enough moanin and stuff this was just to clear stuff up.

So just remember even us JAK+ like to come and have fun without the hes doin this hes doin that thingy :)

Rock on Hardwired and Fizz :D
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Mar 02 2004 11:06am

Sponse
 - Ex-Student
 Sponse

Ok if this is the case il be considering my aplication for this academy, due to these rules, further info will be apointed to the staff's

Regards
Sponse

Mar 02 2004 11:04am

Sponse
 - Ex-Student
 Sponse

Quote:
feh, you are writing here in english as well. so you do on the servers. is it THAT hard to speak in a language EVERYONE understands ?


Your missing the point mate read again plz

Mar 02 2004 11:03am

Aron
 - Retired
 Aron

I agree with Fizz.

It isn't so hard. I even find it arrogant when I see all these people talking amongst eachother in a different language, even after I told them I was kind of annoyed by it.

When i first started playing online games, my english consisted of counting to 10, yes and no, and some other basic words.

I was the definition of noob, annoying, and "dumb". I really didn't understand a word people were saying. Hell, I didn't even know people were talking.

I have learned most of my english from communities at these. In this aspect, we even have some kind of an educational value.

Feel free to talk your own language in PM, or when you are alone on the servers, but when other people are around, you can show your respect for them, AS WELL as the rules by speaking English, like the rest of us.



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