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JamesF1 - Student  |
Nice hot topic to discuss - what are your views? Obviously, I think CREATION is t3h 0wnz0r  _______________ Website This post was edited by JamesF1 on Apr 05 2004 12:47pm. |
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Silencio - Student 
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Quote: Evolution....I have no faith whatsoever..... that pretty much sums it up for me as well _______________ Second-in-command of the mighty FiZZsters |
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Ulic |retired| - Student 
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/me keeps handing Nero tissues untill evolution gives him his own. _______________ Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam |
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Nero - Student 
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basicly we are just very, very, very small waves...so I don't wanna break my head on how those very, very, very, very small waves became what we are now... I'm just not clever enough to do so. _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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I totally dont believe in Evolution. But ive been religious my whole life. Even though I dont actively seek god, I do believe that he is the creator of all.  _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Oh man, I must be blind. Where did this thread come from?!? Anyhow, I'm going to start from the beginning and work my way back up to the top with any possible comments. See you all soon. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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Thanks for clearing that up Bandit |
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Menaxia - Student 
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YAY BANDIT!!! _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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Bandit - Student 
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Point of order... evolution does NOT state that we evolved from apes. Evolutionary theory states that both humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor. There is a big difference... Also, evolution is not linear. Humans are not the end result or culmination of evolution. All animals are not trying to evolved into apes or humans. I don't know of anyone who would seriously state that, although I have seen a couple posts alluding to that as the perception of evolutionary theory. _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) |
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Bandit - Student 
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Quote: But if you believe God created this word, then how did God get here in the first place? As Kenyon says, if you go way back, it's all a matter of belief. And the proper definition of God? "an eternal being" That would explain how he was there in the first place I believe that is a tautology. You're essentially stating that God is defined as eternal because he is eternal and that he is eternal because His definition is that he is eternal. You could say the same thing about the ocean and sky. (fictional example) Why is the sky blue? Because it is a reflection of the ocean. Why is the ocean blue? Because it is a reflection of the sky. Your answer relies on circular reasoning and doesn't address the crux of the question. Whether we are talking about matter or God, we run into the same problem. As Kenyon stated, "if you go way back, it's all a matter of belief." _______________ Part-Time Player (Weekend Warrior). Recipient of the prestigious "Longest-Post-Ever Award" (bestowed on me by Flash on March 23rd, 2004) |
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Dan - Student |
Creation. |
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Hardwired - Retired 
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Evolution....I have no faith whatsoever..... _______________ ::Nothing wrong with a little shooting.....as long as the right people get shot:: |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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Creation. _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Rainer - Student |
I don't believe I said people should be tossed out of a conversation for saying things in an immature way either. _______________ The Jedi formally known as Ranja. ---------------------- "I can list among my experience and skills: leadership, extensive travel, logistical organization, intimate understanding of firearms, and a knowledge of security measures at numerous banks." - Jesse James |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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It's not that I don't find it interesting, I just don't want anyone getting tossed out for what they believe because they said it in an immature way. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Halendor - Ex-Student 
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Have more faith in the Jedi Academy community The maturity level of discussions like this is in general very high. Look at the Same Sex Marriage, Guns and Bush-Kerry topic. People who don't find it interesting, just keep out of them |
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Rainer - Student |
Then maybe that came out wrong, I'm only 16 as well and I also hate it when people discredit what you have to say because of your age. The reason I said 'different ages and maturity levels' is because the maturity level has a lot to do with it. I could have just said different maturity levels. You can have a 20 year old who whines more than a 10 year old. Sorry if I offended anyone there. _______________ The Jedi formally known as Ranja. ---------------------- "I can list among my experience and skills: leadership, extensive travel, logistical organization, intimate understanding of firearms, and a knowledge of security measures at numerous banks." - Jesse James |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: I go w/evolution for the obvious reasons.. ok ppl look at the fossil record. If youve ever taken a bio class its pretty easy to understand. Why couldent we have evolved from apes? We look the same minus the hair and over millions of years is it really that suprising weve changed from the way we are? Im trying to be passive bcause many of you have deep rooted belifs on this subject. I just encourage you to look from a different perspective for a moment, not change ur belifs. So if we evolved from apes then how come apes have not evolved already? And if we have evolved from apes why haven't we evolved into something else already? Why haven't bluejays evolved into eagles? Why haven't ants evolved into beetles? Hey they look generally the same, that must mean they evolved. /sarcasm  Simple fact is that apes and humans are two different species. I don't believe in the garden of eden or all the bible mumbo jumbo. It was written by man. But you don't need a book to tell you what to believe in, the answer looks at you everyday when you walk outside. Trees, birds, life itself is the very image of our creator. All this didn't come from a couple things of matter making a boom. How can a thing like matter create a human mind? How does matter make us think? My thoughts EXACTLY (apart from the not believing in the Bible bit  ) _______________ Website |
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Halendor - Ex-Student
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Quote: And if we have evolved from apes why haven't we evolved into something else already? Evolution goes very, very, very slowly. Our 'little-toe' (the pinky of your feet ) is not as big as it used to be. People are getting taller as well.I personally find it too hard to believe that evolution made this whole, complicated world possible though, but then again evolution had the advantage of time. As I said before, it goes very slowly, and because of regional differences, species develop in different ways. Oh and Gradius, that's not tension. That's a joke I dislike it when people hastly throw everyone below their own age on the pile of 'immature', so I tried to point that out through in a nice way. |
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Nero - Student
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Well I think human beings basicly don't know anything about themselves. everybody knows we're build from molecules, what are they made off? I think we can't understand how we came on this planet nor we'll ever really know what we really are. Let's just say we are here and be happy for it edit:: I see everyone things there always is something everything 'begins' with, a beginning and an end, done. I think it's very well possible there is no beginning and there is no end. space spreads millions of kilometers a day, so something has to move for it, what? to understand this we should let go of all our principals I think _______________ -Nero Quote: Curious, Smartass, what else? This comment was edited by Nero on Apr 07 2004 08:05pm. |
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Silent Whisper - Retired 
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Quote: I go w/evolution for the obvious reasons.. ok ppl look at the fossil record. If youve ever taken a bio class its pretty easy to understand. Why couldent we have evolved from apes? We look the same minus the hair and over millions of years is it really that suprising weve changed from the way we are? Im trying to be passive bcause many of you have deep rooted belifs on this subject. I just encourage you to look from a different perspective for a moment, not change ur belifs. So if we evolved from apes then how come apes have not evolved already? And if we have evolved from apes why haven't we evolved into something else already? Why haven't bluejays evolved into eagles? Why haven't ants evolved into beetles? Hey they look generally the same, that must mean they evolved. /sarcasm Simple fact is that apes and humans are two different species. I don't believe in the garden of eden or all the bible mumbo jumbo. It was written by man. But you don't need a book to tell you what to believe in, the answer looks at you everyday when you walk outside. Trees, birds, life itself is the very image of our creator. All this didn't come from a couple things of matter making a boom. How can a thing like matter create a human mind? How does matter make us think? _______________ "I have learned from Vergere only that there is no such thing as sides of the Force....for the side is merely a reflection of your intentions of the Force. Use it in hate, and it will be hate. Use it offensively in good, and you will find my Truth." -Jacen Solo, "Traitor", New Jedi Order |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: And the proper definition of God? "an eternal being" That would explain how he was there in the first place ... which again doesn't make anymore logical sense than Big Bang, sorry. If Big Bang didn't come out of nothing, then how could God? |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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ShadowStar about us evolving from apes and such. Another theory on that topic is that man and ape were both one species at once, and we evolved apart from eachother, forming two different species. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Drathir - Student 
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that dosent make logical sense though. Everything else in this universe lives and dies as time passes. why would one being be seperate? _______________ Where we ask the question, "Is real life really stranger than fiction, or is fiction about real life being stranger than fiction stranger than real life being stranger than fiction?" Ow. -Paradox Lost Want to read my slowly in progress webcomic? -TCTI |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: But if you believe God created this word, then how did God get here in the first place? As Kenyon says, if you go way back, it's all a matter of belief. And the proper definition of God? "an eternal being" That would explain how he was there in the first place _______________ Website |
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Drathir - Student
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I go w/evolution for the obvious reasons.. ok ppl look at the fossil record. If youve ever taken a bio class its pretty easy to understand. Why couldent we have evolved from apes? We look the same minus the hair and over millions of years is it really that suprising weve changed from the way we are? Im trying to be passive bcause many of you have deep rooted belifs on this subject. I just encourage you to look from a different perspective for a moment, not change ur belifs. _______________ Where we ask the question, "Is real life really stranger than fiction, or is fiction about real life being stranger than fiction stranger than real life being stranger than fiction?" Ow. -Paradox Lost Want to read my slowly in progress webcomic? -TCTI |
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