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Starting Distance
Apr 12 2004 06:27am

n00b
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The matrix rooms contain mats that give a good starting distance from your opponent. It is fair for both parties involved in a duel to start on opposite sides of the mat. The distance has been purposefully designed to prevent sudden opening moves that can overwhelm an unwary opponent. Always insist that your opponent begin in the customary position. Mid-mat starting positions put agressive opponents in perfect range for aerial attacks, backflip attacks, specials like butterfly, etc. In is in your best interest and your opponent's to start at a range that prevents this.
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Apr 15 2004 01:09am

Ancient
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These days if you choose not to follow the code you are insulted, picked on and basically disrespected, Who the hell are YOU to tell me to bow in a computer game?? I'm sorry but you really need to take a step back and see how this element of it is killing the game and community. I'm not talking about obeying the honour code, thats fine, I'm talking about FORCING the unwritten code on people.


My message was written for people who are new to the game. I'm sorry if you got confused or felt that I singled you out. Once you become intiated in the world of Jedi, the choice is entirely up to you on how to play the game. Some people continue to follow the honor code, some do not. I don't feel comfortable playing with people who don't follow it, but apparantly you and others who feel the same way you do have no problem with playing however you want. Its OK, nobody is saying you shouldn't play the way you want. Nobody is saying people who feel like me shouldn't either. So, we're on the opposite spectrum of the topic, its what makes the world go round.

My suggestion is not to say that a person should force a person to play the way they do. One may ask for the other person to go to the other side of the mat and it is entirely possible this person may refuse. It is now up to the person making the request to make a decision to keep going with the duel or forget about it. It may make one look foolish (in the eyes of the person refusing the request) to sever the duel, but this is a viable alternative to continuing in a match that will not be the best possible match for both parties.

I'd like to add that the honor code is followed by the vast majority of students in the Academy. On a public server, you never know what you are going to find. Most people who don't follow it get comments from the other players. The reason for the comments in my belief is that being attacked when you aren't finished with the protocol makes it feel like disrespect and that your opponent only seeks to get the advantage on you before you are ready. Most people would agree its not proper etiquette to attack before both parties are fully ready to begin. Sure its a computer game, but the models on your screen in a multiplayer game are representations of real people in real life. You may win, but you may never get a chance to learn more about them if they don't want to play the game with you. To each his own I suppose.


Pretty much agree with n00b, jake...take it easy... many pple are still respect their oppenents. I know some pple are just want to win so badly...and when they have a chance, like when you are trying to say something or bowing before a duel. they just hit you like crazy....personally i hate that additude, and i think the most important things for a FUN DUELING is to respect each other and learn from your *losed matches*.

P.S. is true that no one has the right to make you bow in a game, jake... But, in my opinion, bowing is just more respectful to your oppenent, YOU and the duel.:):):)
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Apr 14 2004 11:45pm

n00b
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 n00b

Quote:
These days if you choose not to follow the code you are insulted, picked on and basically disrespected, Who the hell are YOU to tell me to bow in a computer game?? I'm sorry but you really need to take a step back and see how this element of it is killing the game and community. I'm not talking about obeying the honour code, thats fine, I'm talking about FORCING the unwritten code on people.


My message was written for people who are new to the game. I'm sorry if you got confused or felt that I singled you out. Once you become intiated in the world of Jedi, the choice is entirely up to you on how to play the game. Some people continue to follow the honor code, some do not. I don't feel comfortable playing with people who don't follow it, but apparantly you and others who feel the same way you do have no problem with playing however you want. Its OK, nobody is saying you shouldn't play the way you want. Nobody is saying people who feel like me shouldn't either. So, we're on the opposite spectrum of the topic, its what makes the world go round.

My suggestion is not to say that a person should force a person to play the way they do. One may ask for the other person to go to the other side of the mat and it is entirely possible this person may refuse. It is now up to the person making the request to make a decision to keep going with the duel or forget about it. It may make one look foolish (in the eyes of the person refusing the request) to sever the duel, but this is a viable alternative to continuing in a match that will not be the best possible match for both parties.

I'd like to add that the honor code is followed by the vast majority of students in the Academy. On a public server, you never know what you are going to find. Most people who don't follow it get comments from the other players. The reason for the comments in my belief is that being attacked when you aren't finished with the protocol makes it feel like disrespect and that your opponent only seeks to get the advantage on you before you are ready. Most people would agree its not proper etiquette to attack before both parties are fully ready to begin. Sure its a computer game, but the models on your screen in a multiplayer game are representations of real people in real life. You may win, but you may never get a chance to learn more about them if they don't want to play the game with you. To each his own I suppose.
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This comment was edited by n00b on Apr 15 2004 12:09am.

Apr 14 2004 02:34pm

Steinin
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 Steinin

Yep. Unwritten rules should not be forced upon somebody. :(
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Apr 14 2004 12:03pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

wy you laughing lol ? its true!! Back in the day honour was real HONOUR! you bowed out of a mutual respect, you followed the code because it felt right.

These days if you choose not to follow the code you are insulted, picked on and basically disrespected, Who the hell are YOU to tell me to bow in a computer game?? I'm sorry but you really need to take a step back and see how this element of it is killing the game and community. I'm not talking about obeying the honour code, thats fine, I'm talking about FORCING the unwritten code on people.

That is all :P
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Apr 14 2004 12:05am

n00b
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 n00b

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I persoanlly no longer follow the 'unwritten honour code'. It started off as a great and beautiful thing mid JKII time, but now its jsut gone stupid and out of proportion.

Basically, if you wanna follow it, please do, its all about having fun. but DO NOT and I mean DO NOT try and force your 'unwritten' rules on other players who do not wsh to play that way, THAT is the most annoying thing ever, more than getting chatkilled or lamed in any way :D


LOL!!
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Apr 13 2004 09:23pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

I persoanlly no longer follow the 'unwritten honour code'. It started off as a great and beautiful thing mid JKII time, but now its jsut gone stupid and out of proportion.

Basically, if you wanna follow it, please do, its all about having fun. but DO NOT and I mean DO NOT try and force your 'unwritten' rules on other players who do not wsh to play that way, THAT is the most annoying thing ever, more than getting chatkilled or lamed in any way :D
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Apr 13 2004 10:47am

Lackeh- Retired
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 Lackeh- Retired

People need to remember that there should be honor in a duel. you signify that you're ready with a bow. after both participants bow then the duel should begin. The majority of the students do accept this upon the explination of the dueling procedure. hell i'm all about the fun and honor in dueling, sabers or otherwise, but without this fundamental procedure you will upset people, and possibly be left with the question did I win out of merit of my abilities or because i "jumped" my opponent.
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Apr 13 2004 03:52am

n00b
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 n00b

Sorry about the obvious nature of this post. I have been seeing this unwritten duelling protocol broken by several players here lately. Funny thing is, the people, including myself, accepted the starting distance. Before I hardly got my saber ignited, my opponent was airborne and hit me in the head with a red swipe before I could react. I think everyone needs to be aware that this tactic is beginning to spread around, but don't fall for it. Always follow protocol and begin where it is fair for both parties, the sides of the mat. If your opponent wants to start mid-mat, ask them to go to the side. It is customary to bow (wait for your opponent to bow), wait for your opponents saber to ignite fully, and then begin. I have seen quick bows and sudden leap attacks before the opponent has their saber ignited. Don't get yourself sucker punched.
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Apr 12 2004 05:32pm

Jake Kainite
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 Jake Kainite

rubbish, get someone to challenge you to a duel, then run right up close to them and accept it, the duel starts woth you both practically touching. You then perform your special move which does the most possible damage and hopefully win the duel in one hit :D Happy laming....
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Apr 12 2004 03:54pm

SilentBob
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 SilentBob

ok, thx for the info:D
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