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n00b - Student  |
Wouldn't it be more fun to hold a Swiss Style tournament or double-elimnation for the Academy in the future? The single-elimination tournament is much too cutthroat and doesn't give the students a chance to meet other students. I say a Modified Swiss Style tournament would intially give everyone a chance to play everyone else and then when the top 8 people are found, a single-elimination tournament would decide the winner from those 8 people. This could be an ongoing event much like a bowling league perhaps. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... |
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SS/ph00d - Student 
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Swiss cheese????  _______________ -ShadowSith: CTF/gunner specialist. |
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guterbni - Student 
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competition => improvement yes. _______________ FAH Q |
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Janus - Retired 
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I'm liking this idea alot n00b, excellent! Let's do it! _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Mikel Rider - Student 
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Thats sweet n00b, I always do nad under pressure, but swiss style aint as bad as single E. _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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Darth Bamse - Student 
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Great idea n00b! _______________ Why use only one saber, when you can use two, and double the mayhem? |
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koushka - Student 
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n00b great idea count me in if you need any help! _______________ Faithful Padawan of {SKX}Dark Blade My profile pic is luke skywalker 
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Squibit - Student 
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Boo Hiss to the ladder idea, sounds too much like clan non-sense to me ! _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once 
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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Modified swiss-style for me ! Is it because I'm Swiss  No, you just explained me what's the swiss style. And I'm not sure it's really inspired by swiss tournys... But it seems to be a cool style.-Khâ D'Kana _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family |
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Fire - Student 
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I really like that idea Possibly some sort of consolation round/tourney after the actual tournament. Or possibly NCAA style. |
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3th - Retired 
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sounds like an interesting idea i'd also maybe like to see a ladder at some point and time if the academy would approve. _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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I don't know what that is. Anyway, it is probebly a good idea, whatever it is! (I'll read when I have time) |
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n00b - Student 
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A description of Swiss Style I got off a web page: Swiss style tournaments seem more inclusive than single- and double-elimination tournaments, in that no player is ever forced to drop from the tournament. After each round, all players are matched up against other players with the same win-loss record. So in the fifth round of play, all the 4-0 players compete against each other, all the 3-1 players compete against each other, etc., down to the players who are all 0-4, playing against each other. Generally the tournament continues until there is only one undefeated player, or sometimes for one or two rounds beyond that, in order to ensure that players who have previously lost a round (or two) could still win the tournament. (For fairness' sake, the number of rounds must be announced after the number of entrants is known but before the tournament begins.) If the number of players is large, Swiss-style tournaments are easy for tournament organizers to run because there is less need to fill in slots of a bracket with "byes" (see below). A maximum of one bye is needed per round of a Swiss tournament, and that is only needed if there is an odd number of players competing in that round. In some Swiss tournaments, the tournament continues for a certain number of rounds, at which point the main tournament ends and the top 8 players continue on to play an 8-player single- or double-elimination playoff tournament for the victory. At a certain point in a Swiss-style tournament, it becomes obvious to players when they have been mathematically eliminated from being able to win or place high, but they can continue playing if they choose A description of Double-Elimination: Double-elimination tournaments are less cutthroat than single-elimination tournaments, as a player is allowed to lose one game without being dropped from the tournament. The winners of the first round move on to play each other in the "winners' bracket" in the second round; the losers of the first round move on to the "losers' bracket" and play each other in the second round. In each subsequent round, those players in the "losers' bracket" who lose a game are dropped from the tournament, whereas those who win get to advance to the next round in the losers' bracket. Those players in the "winners' bracket" who win advance to the next round in the winners' bracket, and the losers drop down into the losers' bracket, to face opponents in that bracket. This continues until the finals, in which the winner of the winners' bracket, who is undefeated, faces the winner of the losers' bracket, who has lost one game so far. If the undefeated player loses this finals match, the match is repeated with the same two players to determine the winner once and for all, as a player is not dropped from a double-elimination tournament unless he has lost twice. Modified Swiss is that the Tournament starts with Swiss and ends with single or double elimination for the top 8 players from the swiss half of the tournament. Quote: It tells you (theoreticly) the best, but I could fight my trees with weak people in them, getting to the final would only mean i am better than half of the people in the JA. Single elimination has this problem unless the favored people are seeded in the beginning being apart from each other. For instance, lets say the two people who are favored to win the tournament have to fight each other in the first round and one of them is eliminated? It would be much better if the favored people were split up so they didn't face each other until the later rounds. In swiss, if the favored people are paired up with each other right away, they are not eliminated for having a loss right away in the first round. Quote: the problem is it woudl take more time / effor / management etc. etc. I would gladly volunteer to manage the tournament. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... This comment was edited by n00b on May 02 2004 11:40pm. |
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Squibit - Student
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I have no idea what those two styles are But I do agree there should be varietys in the type of tournys we do here. The problem with elimination is you never truly know who is second thrid etc. It tells you (theoreticly) the best, but I could fight my trees with weak people in them, getting to the final would only mean i am better than half of the people in the JA,. eg 32 man toruney, If i have 16 worst in my tree I could reach final, where as the 2nd best, 3rd bets 4th best etc. were all eliminated by the other finalist who is the best. A tourney with points or somthing would be able to determine 2nd and 3rd etc. the problem is it woudl take more time / effor / management etc. etc. _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg&f_odd=1){kind=small}
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thats a nice idea, n00b! i like it, but you should maybe explain what the swiss-system is. not everyone knows it and your english is much better than mine ;-) greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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