The Role of the JAP | |
Tido - Student ![]() |
**EDIT** I'm bumping this because I want to obtain just a little more feedback and acknowledgement that you guys feel that JAP = JAS..one is not greater than the other. A Padawan is, in essence, a student that has a personal instructor..nothing more. ********************************************* Before I take off, I wanted to start a little discussion. What do you consider the role of JAP to be in the JA. The holocron doesn't list any roles or responsibilties for JAPs. So I just wanted to start a thread for you guys to share what being a Padawan means to you. It could be a lot of things or it could be nothing. Go! Discuss! This post was edited by Tido on Jul 09 2004 08:55pm. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student ![]() |
Quote: Oh, and being a JAP is just like being a JAS. Unless you're Bubu's paddy, in which case you automatically ROCK THE WORLD! weeeeeeee ![]() and of course all Belouves do ![]() _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
Squibit - Student ![]() |
Quote: People go around saying "I'm JAP, you're JAS; I pwn you". I don't see a point. They do !!! I have never seen this, and if someone were to say somthing like this i'm sure that soon thier flashy little P will become an S once more ![]() _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once ![]() |
_cmad_ - Ex-Student ![]() |
IMO there is no difference between JAS and JAP, except personal view. JAP has master, JAS does not (or an unofficial one). Further than that, there's no difference. People go around saying "I'm JAP, you're JAS; I pwn you". I don't see a point. JAPs are at the same level in terms of obligations towards the JA. Personally, for me JAA = JAP = JAS (where JAA = JA Apprentice, NOT Aurochs). _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
Lego[DEAD] - Ex-Student ![]() |
i lame people , HEHE _______________ AHH YOU ARE ALL NICE LADS |
Squibit - Student ![]() |
HUH? I don't know how that was picking on your spelling, I was appologising for if i misspelt elabourate _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once ![]() |
Mikel Rider - Student ![]() |
Quote: But ill just (eek spelling?) elabourate (explain in more detail) on what a few of the points in an earlier post mean to me You guys are always picking on my spellin. :-( _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
Casual - Student ![]() |
I don't know really what the role of the JAP is, and in fact, it really doesn't matter that much. I personally won't wear the tag, why bother? If some people get kicks out of it, then fine by me, but I still get the feeling of bragging whenever I see the tag after someone's name. But that's just me. Oh, and being a JAP is just like being a JAS. Unless you're Bubu's paddy, in which case you automatically ROCK THE WORLD! -Cas out _______________ Thanks to the human heart by which we live, Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears, To me the meanest flower that blows can give Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears. |
Janus - Retired ![]() |
I have to agree with the all-around statements made below. I've always seen it as the representation of the Knight/Trainer 's code of conduct to other students. We are all equals, none better than anyone else, but it's a respect and honor system. I kind of classify a JAK/JAT & JAP relationship as a focused learning, and that a JAP is to "be the sponge" soaking up all that is taught. Don't want to babble too much, had to give the simple opinions ![]() _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
Jake Kainite - Student ![]() |
Yeah Aron I was just testing the limits of the rules ![]() ![]() _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side ![]() |
PlooKoon - Student ![]() |
I believe JAP is a just another learning route and maybe a larger one than a JAS , a JAP has a personal trainer, a trainer than picked them as to be an apprentice, to learn their views and their way of the game that we all love. I do not think it is right to be said that JAP is more than JAS, JAP to me is cool but it is wrong to think u r better than a JAS therefore i believe that there is no point statign anything in the holocron about JAP , it demotes JAS's which makes them feel less worthy. this is said many times and most of you would have heard it 'you do not need a master, just go to the classes' in my opinion this is true, JAK+ are one of the most helpful ppl around (not including helpful students) and if you want some tutoring just ask them for some help, or ask another student , if the JAK+ are busy they always say tomorow , even though their schedual is very very busy they find time to help you, so if you need any trainign just ask , if you guys have enough energy to read this ![]() from your friendly kel dor -pLOOkOON ![]() _______________ Moo |
Axion - Student ![]() |
Quote: For me, bein a JAP is more then getting special attention from oyur JAK or JAt, it also means giving special attention to oyur fellow JAPs when oyu can, and representing your JAT (or JAK). I always try to represent smily. We have no official responsabilities but i do try and hold myself to a high standard, so I can set an example to all the new JAS. Thats bout it from me :-) same here mikel ![]() _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![]() |
got ya, kueller! ![]() ![]() and sure thing is that JAM/JAC/JAT/JAK/JAP/JAS makes no difference at all to the person. only the personality does ;-) a wise man said once: "stupid is, who stupid does", so think i too. it doesnt make any difference whish tag you wear. have a nice evening, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES ![]() Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Kueller - Student |
Daidalus, sure you're special to me, as are a lot of ppl here ![]() _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills ![]() |
Aron - Retired ![]() |
Quote: Technically ANYONE can put a [JAP] tag at the end of their name! We're allowed clan tags here, if anyone asks just say its a clan tag. If it means that much to you, and you feel that padawans get more respect, make a damn tag! ....right. Please don't take this too seriously; clan tag or not, don't use it unless you are a Padawan. It is the same principle for using JAK/JAT and JAC tags. |
Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![]() |
I agree with squib here. Very nice explenation of paddawanship ![]() Quote: (eg. daidalus covering Kueller ALL the time ![]() thx! i hope that reminds Kueller that he has a job to do ![]() But im glad to help where ever i can help, thats the padawans are for too, help their master and brothers if they ave problems. of course many oher players will help each other too, but the paddawans are more "family-like". boooo kueller! im nothing spetial to you? ![]() ![]() greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES ![]() Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Squibit - Student ![]() |
But ill just (eek spelling?) elabourate (explain in more detail) on what a few of the points in an earlier post mean to me Quote: it also means giving special attention to oyur (your*) fellow JAPs Yup, fellow JAPs as in having the same master as you, thats one reason why the JA familys have held so strong because you are usualy (always?) good friends with your fellow paddys, I think my best friends here are Roan Belouve, Vaxxla Belouve, Bail Belouve and Seth belouve. (and masta fizzy of course) But also giving attention to other paddys, especialy thoses whos master is a fiend of your master. Ie. Kuller used to have a class right before/after Fizz's and they often covered for each other, I am now friends with all the Fistos (daidalus, Narcost and past fisto D@mned ![]() Quote: and representing your JAT (or JAK) Yes indeed, they are there to help you , both with skills and other things. But you can also help them, passing on thier views, doing general stuff, and getting them their beers. Once you have trained significantly far, they may start to ask you for help out wiht classes as you should by then know about it as (at least for me) you have been to most of them. (eg. daidalus covering Kueller ALL the time ![]() Quote: We have no official responsabilities but i do try and hold myself to a high standard, so I can set an example to all the new JAS. Yes high standard, if you muck about or do somthing foolish it not only reflects on you but also on your master Eg. Why the hell is FiZZ training Squibit when he runs around laming??? But it also works the other way around, (Wow that was amazing squib, whos your master???) So in conculsion, thanks mikel rider, perfect ![]() May The FiZZ Be With You _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once ![]() |
Jake Kainite - Student ![]() |
Technically ANYONE can put a [JAP] tag at the end of their name! We're allowed clan tags here, if anyone asks just say its a clan tag. If it means that much to you, and you feel that padawans get more respect, make a damn tag! _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side ![]() |
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No, i'm just a fussy b*tch ![]() |
Ancient - Ex-Student ![]() |
HAha...JJ.. you are really strange, i saw you as JAS one week eariler and JAK two weeks eariler, and a JAS three weeks eariler; finally you came back to JAK again this week....lol... Are you a part-time JAK??![]() ![]() _______________ -THE ONE WITH THE "STAFF" -BROTHER TO FROSTY -Admitted to University of California, San Diego(UCSD). YAY! |
Setementor - Jedi Master ![]() |
The JAP/JAS responsabilities are just to follow the simple rules and follow instructions, have fun and enjoy yourself. |
Tido - Student ![]() |
I guess I should have added my own opinion...![]() I don't feel that there are any differences in the status of paddies vs students. They are the same. Being a padawan is being honored to be the personal student of a knight. It's not even a 'rank' per say. I'm just here for fun, freinds, and to learn. It's important to me that I meet the expectations of my master (and of myself), but I don't feel that those 'obligations' are given to me by the JAP tag. ![]() Some people thought differently and thats why I was curious to start a discussion. This comment was edited by Tido on May 06 2004 10:03pm. |
Bubu - Hubbub ![]() |
Being a JAP means nothing for the JA but it might mean a lot to you. It depends on the person really. It's not an official rank and should not be treated like one. In fact, if I remember correctly, there once was a "rule" that you were not allowed to wear the JAP tag, but that slipped into oblivion. It's all between you and your master. _______________ make install -not war |
Kueller - Student |
Officially JAP's havent't got any roles or responisbilities apart from obeying and representing you master. You have to live up to your masters wishes and standards. I could also say, be an example to other JASses, but I think I won't add that, because you don't have to be JAP to do that,'I've seen a lot of JASses doing that too. I, for myself don't make a difference between JAP or JAS, just as the holocron states, they are the same level. _______________ Personal sleepness-nights-supporter of Virtue. Owner of the 1000th comment of Daidalus and 1943th comment of Gradius! Owner of the 300th comment of Carda! -Taught Gradius all his laming skills ![]() |
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A padawan is someone who is chosen, for whatever reason, by a JAK+ to be their student, so that they can achieve as much as they can skill-wise. At least, that's what I think. ![]() |
Mikel Rider - Student ![]() |
For me, bein a JAP is more then getting special attention from oyur JAK or JAt, it also means giving special attention to oyur fellow JAPs when oyu can, and representing your JAT (or JAK). I always try to represent smily. We have no official responsabilities but i do try and hold myself to a high standard, so I can set an example to all the new JAS. Thats bout it from me :-) _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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