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May 30 2004 04:25am

manta
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manta
Although I am rather new on in the Academy, I've already made some good pals. Even so, there are some that ruin this for others. Specifically younger members. Now, when I saw young, I don't mean 15 young, considering there are some "older" people here. :P

What I'm talking about is kids 12 and under. At this age, they just don't behave very well on the server. They either complain a lot, or are very annoying. Now I know this is a quite a generalization, but for the most part this is true. There could be exceptions for young persons who are responsible and knowledgeable, but many are just down right dumb/pests. How do you guys feel on this subject?

Poll
Would you like to have an age requirement on applying to the JA?

vote results
Yes Yes [3 votes] [8%]
No No [34 votes] [87%]
Undecided Undecided [2 votes] [5%]

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May 30 2004 08:19pm

DJK
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 DJK

maybe it would be cool to have a new thing in the submitment, like there are "first name" and "last name" so why not "Age" i mean, by that we all know how old we are right:)

May 30 2004 07:18pm

Battlin' Billy
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 Battlin' Billy

Quote:
We have some "young" people in here, that are often mistaken to be twenty years or older, and the other way around.


Very true!!!

The 1st few times I met Luke Skywalker, I thought he was at least in his twenties and he was 14 at the time I believe.

I don't think an age requirement is necessary, if someone's being a jerk on the servers/IRC/forums, they'll be warned/kicked/banned. Plus, it is true that it would be impossible to enforce.

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May 30 2004 03:54pm

ozzcoz
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 ozzcoz

(beware: randomness ahead) The padawans in the Star Wars universe begin their training when they are 2 yo. They discriminate in age by saying people are too OLD to be Jedi.
I personally think that it is a bad idea to have an age limit. This is a place for fun and learning. Anybody can act up, not just young people. Besides, what are you gonna do, kick some of our existing members who are too young? Who wants that to happen?
And as has been said before, there is no real way of enforcing said limit, short of face-to-face interviews with the Council on application. And that would be a problem for anyone not living in the same state, let alone country, as one of the council members!
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May 30 2004 03:20pm

Fizz of Belouve
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 Fizz of Belouve

this is being brought up form time to time again, yet it might make sense, and again we have no way to control, regulate ot check this.
so it wont happen.


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May 30 2004 01:14pm

DJK
 - Student
 DJK

no i dont think it shuld becourse all is wellcome here ^_^

May 30 2004 01:01pm

SedNox
 - Student
 SedNox

why thank you, Aron :P

but if we gonna put a age thinge, there is NO way to control it. you cant say:"wait your to young, your not allowed." in this place. and btw i have many friends who are younger then 14 and they are all acting mature enough. there are just some kids who arent mature enough. and for that reason you wanna put a age thingie?
what about the kids who ARE mature with the same age? thats just unfair.
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This comment was edited by SedNox on May 30 2004 01:06pm.

May 30 2004 12:24pm

Aron
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 Aron

There will be no age requirement. It just won't happen.

Sure, I can understand the ideas it might get rid of "annoying kids", but from experience, I can tell that the largest part of troublemakers are 15, 16+.

We have some "young" people in here, that are often mistaken to be twenty years or older, and the other way around.

This comment was edited by Aron on May 30 2004 12:25pm.

May 30 2004 11:56am

Darth Bamse
 - Student
 Darth Bamse

I am explicitly AGAINST an age requirement. It would be impossible to enforce and it is also very discriminating. If someone behaves bad, tell them so. In a worst case scenario, they can be kicked/banned. But it's mostly the whole attitude of it: "No, you can't join our club-for-mature-people, cuz you're under 12 and will behave bad." Let everyone in, let them prove themselves. It is way below us to discriminate people because of their age.
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May 30 2004 10:35am

Khâ D'Kana
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 Khâ D'Kana

I'm not for an age limit now, even if when I started I was for. This is for two main reasons :

1. As Buzz said most troublemakers are teens between 14-20.
2. I'm pretty sure that people who thinks they are more mature (or are) must make all they could to give example. Like asking everyone on the map before to use guns in a room (except for corpse cleaning ;)), prohibite laming, greets everyone when joining... Such things could encourage younger player to develop a good attitude.

My 2 cents

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This comment was edited by Khâ D'Kana on May 30 2004 10:36am.

May 30 2004 10:22am

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

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*sigh* STILL, noone read what I said. THERE ARE SOME MATURE YOUNGER PEOPLE. If you are 12, 9 it does not matter, as long as you're responsible. I wish some people could read...


Don't give us that smart-pants look, if you had meant what you wrote then you wouldn't have made this post. If you too think age doesn't really matter about this fact, then you wouldn't have made an age requirement thread...

EDIT: If the guy doesn't show decent attitude, he can always be banned later ;)
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This comment was edited by _cmad_ on May 30 2004 10:25am.

May 30 2004 09:52am

manta
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 manta

*sigh* STILL, noone read what I said. THERE ARE SOME MATURE YOUNGER PEOPLE. If you are 12, 9 it does not matter, as long as you're responsible. I wish some people could read...

May 30 2004 08:14am

_cmad_
 - Ex-Student
 _cmad_

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WOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

That's me running from this thread :D


Here's your example of a mature adult who acts like a baby :D :P (hey, doobie said that in some post ;))

Actually, putting on an age requirement would be dumb... Everyone can put on a fake age; it's the internet, remember? Plus, it's more up to the person, than the age, that matters.
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May 30 2004 08:14am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

I am 12, so my vote is going to be 100% NO. But if this did happen, it wouldn't matter to much if you had to be 13 or more because I will be 13 in about a month. :D

May 30 2004 06:49am

Sauce
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 Sauce

a few problems though...

how would you know if the kid under 12 is responsible and knowledgeable if ya don't let them in the server?

how would ya know if they are truthful about their age?

what about tolerance and comradery?



May 30 2004 06:24am

Buzz
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 Buzz

You're saying put an age requirement on to keep out little kids that don't act the way you want them to. The problem is how are you going to enforce it. If they know they can't get in unless they're over 12 they'll put down 13. There's also no way of telling by the age if the kids are going to be "well-behaved" or not before they're even here.

And honestly I'm not that concerned with the little kids around here, being little kids. I've had more trouble with the 15-20 year olds being brats. And since that's the age we seem to have a lot of trouble with why not make the academy ages 6-14 and 21-99? That will really cut down on problems I think.
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May 30 2004 06:04am

manta
 - Student
 manta

Mind saying why it's stupid? You seem to be very responsible and polite on the servers Monkai, so you would not be excluded. This is to weed out the kids that think since no one knows who they are on the internet, they can be smacktards.

May 30 2004 06:02am

monkai
 - Student

no offense but puting up a age requirement is stupid.

May 30 2004 05:56am

manta
 - Student
 manta

If some of you would read my post, I said that it would be fine to allow people who show responsiblity and maturity besides their age. My point (although obvious) is that we should put a minimum age on applying to the academy.

May 30 2004 05:35am

3th
 - Retired
 3th

luckily for us manta, it's usually just a temporary problem as most of the well behaved ones stick around and the annoying ones get tired of being chastized for their continued infractions and get the message after a bit. either that, or they change their tune and modify their behaviour to act a bit more mature. i think this actually one of the most interesting and sucessful aspects of the JA, we actually do get people to improve their interpersonal skills :)
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This comment was edited by 3th on May 30 2004 05:36am.

May 30 2004 05:29am

monkai
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:( so yo're going to kick me out :( BTW im 11 :P

This comment was edited by monkai on May 30 2004 05:29am.

May 30 2004 05:27am

Anakin Skywalker
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 Anakin Skywalker

And what is your point on this thread? What do you want to do about it?
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May 30 2004 04:51am

 
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WOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

That's me running from this thread :D

May 30 2004 04:31am

manta
 - Student
 manta

And why is that Gradius?

May 30 2004 04:28am

Gradius
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 Gradius

I'm not even going to respond to that.
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May 30 2004 04:26am

Garos
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 Garos

*Garos nods*
I'd wouldn't say less than 12 though. My brother is 12 (I think) , and he's pretty mature

This comment was edited by Garos on May 30 2004 04:29am.

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