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Xutai - ex-Student  |
i am starting an academy for all those dark enthusists. if you would like more info. feal free to e-mail me at Codebreakerblack@aol.com
edit: this acdemy will probly be 4 "JKIII" _______________ You Want The Force? You can't Handle The Force  This post was edited by Xutai on Apr 08 2003 12:55am. |
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Aeth S'kray - Retired 
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geez, just play what you want. as long as u r happy with it why complain about anything 
impo dark side is stronger but it massively depends on the play behind it. like new ones better use light (easier heal, abosrb), advanced take dark (more agressive) and then comes your personal choice. i say a highly skilled darksider takes out a highly skilled light sider... but thats just my opinion. oh and lightning lvl 2 is not too good i say. why? you need to aim. you can fire lvl three blind and its much easier to keep track of rolling an jumping guys. besides it does more damage i think. wanna know my forces?  here they are
jump 3 pull 3 push 3 seeing 2 lightning 3 drain 3 grip 3 saber atack 3 saber defence 3 i'm quite used to it now _______________ Aeth S'kray *June 2002 +September 2003 |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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Stoopid tying posted it twice . I've said all along its not my opinion (well technically it is because I support it.....) I'm not whining and I'm forcing my opinions on anybody, sorry if it came across like that. All I'm trying to do is teach you. I'm assuming that most of you have never played full force duel at a competitive level. I could do a stoopid thing and say "I chalenge anyone in the academy to a full force duel, me dark they light" but that would solve nothing. I have nothing to prove, if you chose not to except this information I have presented before you then so be it. You may think I'm wrong, kudos to you for standing up for what you beleive in, I can't argue with that. I'm just saying that I do have quite a fair bit of knowledge on the subject (no I'm not boasting) because I've been playing for a long time and have carried out lots of reasearch (ever hear of break_df ? he's arguably one of the greatest full force duelers in the world, he's a regualr on the JKII.net forums) _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Preadator Kallata'n - Student 
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Jake from wat i'm glancing at...you seem to be the only one whining...
Lightning lvl 3 is designed more for the FFA player, therefore the wide but short range... As Buzz said, they are pretty equal. You seem to be trying to force YOUR opinions onto everybody here, so plz dont bother - people will just start to think badly of you... My views tend to reside in this - Dark is for attack, light is for defense - personally, i tend to defend myself rather than attack...see below... Oh and could you PLEASE sort out those duplicates... --- Attack: The dark side powers are mostly offensive powers. Care must be taken on the timing of the force use, as not to waste power, but when it does work it becomes very effective... Defense: Use of absorb at the right times (i'm not gonna say when ) can dictate whether you die or survive. Protect is pretty lame but useful when used rite. With use on the defensive, its best to try and work out what you're defending against primarily before using powers... _______________ ««¤¤¤{{PREÅÐÅT¤R ka¦¦ata'n}}¤¤¤»» Founder of RSPCT (The Royal Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Toasters) |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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They've given up patching it cos people keep whining. Anyway, what can a lightsider do with a full force pool ? answer = nothing much. Except for using throw pull which the darkie can heal using a meagre amount of force. The lighty will be reluctant to heal (or should be) until they have taken the full thirty damage otherwise its a waste. As soon as a lightsider runs out of force and doesn't have enough to abosrb, the fight is pretty much over. I'm talking full force duels, not 2 vs one or anything like that. Dark is not all powerful, its just better for one on one duels.If you have any idea about full force duels you'll know that doing any form of normal swing with your saber is very stupid, except if your opponent is flat on their back in which case heavy, overhead em. I've done all the research, beleive me I know what I'm talking about. I would love you to find any full force dueler in any league ever than was a lightsider who actually did some owning  _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Buzz - Student 
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Jake, you cannot use the point of kick pull and throw. Those are neutral powers. Anyone can do them and if you were to fight someone using the lightside that is better at pull kick and throw than you then you're dead. And its not grip vs absorb. Its grip vs absorb and heal. You grip someone and they are going to take maybe 3 or 4 damage before they turn on absorb. It may take some power but it is all returned from the grip. Now they have full force again and are freed from your grip. And if you got a kick in that's what 20 damage if it was a good hit? All gained back in health. Also you can't swing your saber while doing grip lightning or drain. That means your open. however a lightside user can be slicing your head off while healing himself. What would happen if you were in a 2 on 1 duel sometime and you tried to grip? you can't protect yourself. Now you of course wouldn't do it because you're smart enough not to. But that eliminates an ability for you to use. I'd say mind trick would work in a two on one duel very well. If you spend all your time focusing on one guy the other gets behind you and gets a major hit. Lightside isn't better. They're EQUAL. They've had 2 patches to make them more equal. If there was such a major gap in their ability to be properly used there would have been another patch _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Ok I didn't waqnt to go into this but its obvious you guys are gonna be convinced unless I go into specifics. Mind trick is pointless in a duel, lvl 1 seeing counters any lvl of mintrick, thats 2 points spent on seeing against what is it ? 12 on mind trick!!Yes absorb is very kool, but you have to remember you can only absorb force if someone actually uses any on you Just sit back, wait for it to wear out, pull throw kick em a bit. Protect is a waste, you can't use absorb whilst protecting, grip kick em takes off mad health. Now we come to heal versus drain. Oh dear oh dear, they are not even in the same league, not even in the same sport. I've already said it, heal takes half your force pool for 30 health, thats if you manage to keep even half a force pool long enough. Drain can be used almost constantly (unless they themselves are being drained) All it takes is one burst of drain to knock out your healing, and heal themselves. You won't get another chance cos drain can be used over and over, and since the duel lvls are small the pressure can be put on constantly. Rage doesn't come into the equation cos you'd be a fool to use rage in a duel
Oh yeah one last point, lightning. Lvl 2 lightning is more effective than lvl 3. Whys that ? I hear you ask. Well its becuase of the range. Lvl 2 lightning can go halfway across the massassi arena map (you know the one with the slopey sides). This means that in a small, confined dueling area, you can canstantly zap your opponent with little burts. This is good because 9 times out of 10 they will slap on absorb, but only after they've been hit cos they'll be expecting more, this takes up valuable force power and deducts their ability to heal whilst taking damage. I'm gonna say it ONE MORE TIME!! DARK IS MORE POWERFUL IN FULL FORCE DUELS, THERE IS NO POINT ARGUING. You may not like it, but don't get angry at me, its not my choice, its not my opinion, its not me thinking I know better than anyone else, IT IS THE TRUTH. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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itsme - Student |
The power of the Force lies in the mind that uses it, not in the balance of better and worse.
Edit: I lack a personal project now, and I'm rather handy with PHP, so if you need help with a site, just ask. This comment was edited by itsme on Feb 25 2003 04:59am. |
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Flamori Athena - Student 
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I started out with light, because of heal, then when I got better i turned to the darkside for an easier time killing people. Now that I've joined the academy, I'm turning back to the light side.
Btw, Andrew Lecho, r u going to eventually lead ur sith academy against the JA? That would be cool, we could all meet on the world's biggest server and duke it out, Jedi vs Sith, Light vs Dark.... So hurry up and build your academy cuz I feel like kicking some True Sith! _______________ «±» 21st on the Midbie Council, Profile ID: 2027 «±» True wisdom is the knowledge that you know nothing. |
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Insaniac[JAP] - Ex-Student ![Insaniac[JAP]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=52&f_image=insaniac.jpg)
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dude, you want strong? how about one power that has the ability to cancel out every power the darkside has? how about a power that makes it so your oponent can't see you and everyone knows you can't hit what you can't see (well some can, but most can't) how about a power that reduces the amount of physical damage you take? i mean mean so what if you just hit them with a Rdfa? he is barely any the worse for the wear! and then even if he is hurt badly, he has a way to heal himself that can't be stopped!
see they are balanced, or if anything the Light side is too good! but the point is that they aer balanced and no one side is any better PS: i use both sides to duel depending on my mood, so i have experiance with both. _______________ Midbie Council Member #13 Padawan of SilkMonkey Stuntman extraordinaire |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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Yes yes I value your opinions and I can see where your coming from and logic behind them. But the fact is that dark is better for duels, I'm sorry, it just is. The sky is blue, water is wet, darkside is better for duels Thats just the way it is. I wish it wasn't so, I hate the darkside, but to win thats what it takes (I know its not all about winning ) _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Sniya - Student 
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true true _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Buzz - Student 
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I'd love to see your fact disproven. The only difference that there really is is that light is defensive dark is offensive. If you take an American Football Superbowl approach - The defensive minded team will win more than the offensive minded team. It was proven this year with the number 1 offense vs. the number 1 defense. But that does completely apply here and none of this should be in this poor guys thread about starting an academy. The fact is that the light and dark powers are very balance overall. The only things that do make a difference are who's better at using his or her powers in the duel and which powers you choose to use. I don't think either power is better than the other. It all comes down to if you want the extra offense or the extra defense. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student 
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I'm not trying to argue for the darkised here, saying its all kool and good, as I said before I'm a die hard lightside Jedi. I'm just stating that dark is better in full force duels, I told you not to argue cos there was no point but you did anyway Once again, its not my opinion, its fact. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Respawn[08th] - Ex-Student ![Respawn[08th]](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=70&f_height=70&f_image=BoltDragon.jpg&f_odd=1)
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Spawn would love your idea _______________ Load-Reload Spawn-Respawn |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Now I won't go around making your website or anything liek that, but I'll answer any questions you may have., _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Xutai - Ex-Student 
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thx for all your feedback every 1 and yes DJ, i do need help. if any one is interisted in helping me in any way it will be greatly appricated _______________ You Want The Force? You can't Handle The Force
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MINDofSIN - Student 
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Well, Dark is definately better for me. I started out with Light, and didn't like not destroying people.
Due to the game being balanced so well, I don't think there is a huge advantage for either side in anything. In a FF duel, one good hit and some lightning or a grip kick once the absorb runs out and it's done. The smart lightsiders know when to use absorb, so they are trickier to bring down. _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. |
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Sniya - Student 
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em Dark are easier to start with but with the light powers they can become much more powerful if you train hard enough.
Lighting i hate it so im kinda an absorb king switch it on when an electic lovin guy is near off when they move away.And if used right absorb can give you a massive edge over your opents by using up thier force while charging you.Dark can make you dependant on your force. Oh and mind trick kicks ass _______________ The real question is not whether machines think but whether men do. Bertrand Russell http://www.thejediacademy.net/forums_detail_page.php?f_id=970 |
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Psycho - Ex-Student 
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Dark powers are for those impatient, those who want the quick but dangerous way to succeding, blah, down with the darksiders!
Note, I was a darksider once, untill I tried lightsiding, you should try it as well! _______________ ---->66.165.90.207:28070!One of the best public servers evah!! |
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Buzz - Student
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Pull throw isn't darkside though. That purely neutral powers. So that has no place in saying the darkside is better than light or vice versa, since anyone can pull throw. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Jake Kainite - Student
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oooh oooh include me
The main reason is drain, it only takes 3 bars in your force pool to use, heal takes half of the whole pool, whilst they're building up for one heal (which takes lots of points to assign as well) you can keep tapping yah drain button. Sure absorb counters your force powers, but the answer is simple, don't use any on them, or just use pull throw. Wait till they run out then hit em with all you got. Trust me, they are not balanced and only the very very skilled would have a chance with lightside, although a skilled lighty against a skilled darkie, darkie will come out on top. _______________ Apprenctice of Jedi Master Ascari (deceased) Descended from a line of great Jedi Will argue any point of view from any side
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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I hereby challenge you to a friendly FF duel, MoS.
Me light, you dark. _______________ make install -not war |
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MINDofSIN - Student
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9/10 times I choose the dark side. I simply like being on the offensive and making the other guy react to what I do.
It's definately best in a Full Force duel. _______________ Jedi Academy Holocron http://jaholocron.ryanmh.com/ Why should our government send our soldiers to foreign soil to protect freedom of speech, when our freedom of speech is being taking away everyday by the same government. |
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DJ Sith - Jedi Council 
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Starting an organized academy is pretty tough to say the least. Let me know if you need any advice. _______________ My car is made of Nerf. |
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Buzz - Student
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Well The agressive darkside powers of grip and lightning are stopped easily by absorb. And rage is a double edged sword since it increases your powers but drains your help and makes you slow when it ends. So while you're flying around, you're doing your opponent a favor by draining your life, and if they can avoid you long enough you're a weakened opponent that moves slow. So the force powers are more balanced than you're giving credit for. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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