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Virtue - Jedi Council  |
Okay, here's the deal; Over the past few weeks we have recieved alot or reports of laming and various rule breaking incidents on the Servers. A short list of some of the offences are as follows: Laming Disrespect to fellow Students and to JAK+ Not paying attention/causing disturbances in Classes Weaponary being used outside of the Fortress FFAs/Duels all over the map, such as the Courtyard, where people spawn into the game NPC exploiting (IE, Spawning too many and/or luring them outside of their designated spawning rooms) Disrespect to Vladarion's Memorial (Attacking it, mining it, jumping on it, fighting near it) Alot of these cases are coupled with arrogance, ignorance and sheer disreguard for others and for the rules. This stops here and now. I have locked down the entire Map on ALL JA Servers, Students no longer have access to the following areas: The NPC Reborn Room The NPC Droid Room Vladarion's Garden The Fortress I apologise to those of you who actually follow the rules and behave respectfully while on our Servers, but this has to be done to make some of you realise that you must obey our Rules or you will have these kinds of privelages taken away from you, recieve warnings and eventually, be banned from the Academy. All Students must read the Rules before joining any of our Servers for the first time. This "Lockdown" will stay in effect untill we see some improvements in peoples behaviour. If you have Enrolled in a Class that needs to make use of any of these areas, your Instructor will unlock them for the duration of the Class only. So, start setting some examples for yourselvs, have a good time, follow the Rules and this lockdown won't last long. Carry on. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect This post was edited by Virtue on Jun 14 2004 06:10pm. |
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Squibit - Student 
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Just to clarify, I do support the council in this and all decisions: That is that I will do my best to make the idea work, not complain about the decion, help to enforce the decision and respect the way the council has handled the problem. That does not mean that i have to agree that it was the best way to handle the problem, or that I fully understand the decision. But I will accept it and try to make it "work" Just incase you thought i was having a go at you guys im not. Though I am a little upset that you do not trust the sensible members to report any rule abusers and persuade them to not be foolish without having to do somthing like this  _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once 
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Urded - Student 
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im sorry the academy came to this where people just dont care about things the academy does. _______________ Mapper a la strange. Proud owner of SilkMonkey Award for Wishing He Had Menaxia's Best IRC Smile Award. A Penguin Jedi is Me! |
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o2b - Student 
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The thing that irritates me is that I'm one of the few ppl in Australia who plays a fair bit. I can't say that I've seen anyone lame (without it being "fun" laming) in a long time - most likely cause I play in a different timezone. It's always the few that spoil it for the many. However, I'm not saying that I don't support the council...I do, 100%. Oh well...that's life I guess |
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Khâ D'Kana - Student 
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I cannot tell, I haven't seen this coming... Thanks to the whole Council to take this type of hard decisions. It's the only way to show everyone they must care about others. And maybe to show ppl like me that sometimes our behaviour between friends could give a wrong view of the academy to new students. _______________ In light of day, nor dark of night, no evil shall escape our sight. Proud member of the D'Kana family |
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Aron - Retired 
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Also, keep in mind that YOU can help us make the servers a nicer place. You see someone laming around memorial? SCREENSHOT IT, CONDUMP. These two commands are your friends. Take them with you at all times. Of course, ALWAYS try to solve it the "nice way" first. Try talking some sense in people and have them SEE what they are doing. If they still don't listen then, you can bring it to us, so we can solve it, one way or another. |
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Have you guys seen Full Metal Jacket? Remember the one guy who was always screwing up and getting the whole group in trouble? Remember what happened to him... :O I'm not suggesting we beat the crap out of the troublemakers, just that peer pressure is a powerful tool. Yes, peer pressure has its ugly side...like a power saw it can hurt those who use it carelessly but also be of great benefit to those who respect its power and use it properly. A lockdown focuses everyone's attention on the rulebreakers, and the disapproval of one's peer group is a heavy burden to bear. p.s. Without naming any names, let me add that when one lames people fifteen times a night, claiming that the sixteenth time was just an accident doesn't wash, even if it is really true. _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. This comment was edited by JavaGuy on Jun 15 2004 05:26am. |
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Shang Chi - Student 
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very sad _______________ Thirty spokes converge on a single hub, but it is in the space where there is nothing that the usefulness of the cart lies. Clay is molded to make a pot, but it is the space where there is nothing that the usefulness of the clay pot lies. Cut out doors and windows to make a room, but it is in the spaces where there is nothing that the usefulness of the room lies. Therefore, Benefit may be derived from something, but it is in nothing that we find usefulness. |
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Buzz - Student 
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Also don't see this as just a punishment for all. You may know of a few of your friends here at the academy who have been doing these things. Take it upon yourselves to get your fellow students to behave along with us. Ask them to stop and behave and point them to the rules _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Aron - Retired
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Quote: I'm wondering if its possible that before anyone can go to the servers page and get the IP/pass, the webserver requires them to go to the rules page and acknoledge that they have read the rules. This way ignorance is not an excuse. I really don't know much about php but could you add another varible to everyones profile like seenrules = 0. And if they go to the server page and seenrules=0 it takes you to a modified rules with the checkbox at the bottom that makes the varible 1. Then when they go to the servers page and seenrules = 1, they can see the page. (I know every programmer in this place must be laughing at me, but this is my crappy understanding of such things) If a student STILL violates the rules even after this, where there is NO excuse for not reading the rules (the message around the checkbox should really make this point clear), then may the JAC have mercy apon their accounts  (or not). I hope Virtue's post doesn't start a bunch of flames. The JAC is doing this in everyone's best interest. We must trust the council - they've deserved it. That should be easy to make. However, we already have a "I have read the rules" checkbox on the signup page. I know, it is like a Liscense agreement thing: Pretty much everyone just clicks "ok". However, it is NOT an excuse. Everyone should have ready the rules. |
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Squibit - Student 
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AH! they didnt know who was doing it! ok that makes more sense, tho a little hard to believe, theres amost always a JAK+ on when im on! also Katan said to me that u guys did know who was doing it ? and that they were banned, therefore why still lock it if the troublemakers are gone ? im so confused  _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Theres many reasons why this is a good idea and many why it's a bad idea. Not that I goto the fort that often. Yet the training rooms I used a lot. I can't say I didn't ever see the npc rooms abused, but I only experienced that once or twice. Still I aren't on there 24/7. Anyway, I think the best thing for me to do is ensure I know what I'm doing before I do it just to be sure.  This obviously makes us totally relize that something is going on and we need to see that it improves. This comment was edited by Setementor on Jun 14 2004 11:39pm. |
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Jade - Student 
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This is a sad day ... I found this out earlier today when I logged onto the servers...disrespect especially for Vlads memorial Good call on the locking JACs. I guess you know who the people are...can we kind of force them to use a particular skin...one with a DUNCES hat on so we can all point and laugh at them for being total idiots... Also, as I found out today, I was allowed into some of the rooms after asking the Admin who also locked up after me (*Thanks Katarn*) so not all doom and gloom for rule abiding citizens. Maybe all new students should be encouraged to actively take part in the "show you around the site" tour. Then they have to learn the rules....just a thought...thats how I learned. Keep it up JACs..VIVA LA ACADEMY!!! _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Daidalus[JAP] Fisto - Student ![Daidalus[JAP] Fisto](/image_thumbnail.php?f_type=users&f_width=49&f_height=70&f_image=3482.jpg){kind=small}
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its a pity that it needs to be handled like this. but its right, if ppl dont want tp show respect, you dont have many choises. I think that will remind espetialy the laming ppl, that it was really wrong what they did. i only can hope that all students take an eye on whats going on and tell laming ppl that its not ok to do so. please take care on each other, not only watch your self. maybe sometimes its good to take care of those who broke the rules and bring them back to the good way instead of showing them the whip and produce anger what makes them only more laming. greetings, daid _______________ Founder of the Fisto Family -|- Member of the mighty FiZZsters!! -|- Owner of the second Bail prize for "BAIL RULES!!" -|- I'll never forget you Jaina! -|- Owner of the one and only autograph of Smily -|- SMILY RULES -|- Owner of the 1000th Comment of the great Kueller -|- Big brother to NarCosT Fisto, and ShadowFax . -|- Proud Padawan of Kueller -|-Sir Daidalus Fisto. Official Historian of Nippledom and server to Menaxia, Queen of Nippledom Quote: fiZZe: "gdamubububugmgmgububugrrrrrdsa?"
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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As I told Virty when he first announced this, I completely understand why he did it and I'd do that same thing. However, one thing I just realized while reading this thread is that when these doors finally open again, people (specifically newbies to the JA) may get a little too excited and start spawning too many bots again and bring/shoot weapons outside of the fortress, again. Don't get me wrong, IMO locking everything down is the best decision. But locking them down for too long may create more disturbances than before. But other than that, good job.  _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider This comment was edited by Gradius on Jun 14 2004 10:39pm. |
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Tido - Student 
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I'm wondering if its possible that before anyone can go to the servers page and get the IP/pass, the webserver requires them to go to the rules page and acknoledge that they have read the rules. This way ignorance is not an excuse. I really don't know much about php but could you add another varible to everyones profile like seenrules = 0. And if they go to the server page and seenrules=0 it takes you to a modified rules with the checkbox at the bottom that makes the varible 1. Then when they go to the servers page and seenrules = 1, they can see the page. (I know every programmer in this place must be laughing at me, but this is my crappy understanding of such things) If a student STILL violates the rules even after this, where there is NO excuse for not reading the rules (the message around the checkbox should really make this point clear), then may the JAC have mercy apon their accounts (or not). I hope Virtue's post doesn't start a bunch of flames. The JAC is doing this in everyone's best interest. We must trust the council - they've deserved it. |
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Ashyr - Student 
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Well, I'm not sure what to say. I'm in no place to argue. So, I'll just say I'm sad it's come to this. I haven't personally been seeing this, but I know things like this happen all the time. I'll respect your decision. _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan This comment was edited by Ashyr on Jun 14 2004 09:20pm. |
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Menaxia - Student 
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Well something pretty darn drastic had to happen didn't it?! Things can't carry on as they have been... _______________ This is not the place to look for me |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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well, I'm not... In case some one read my message wrong, I apologize But I think I will add this in my Welcome Message, it might just save some fellows from a ban, and thus lessen the weight of the work on the JAC's... if you get my point _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Axion - Student 
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my opinion: trust in the council's desicion.. don't make this another flame war.. thats all I have to say. _______________ Axion - Yeah. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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mmm, maybe I should edit my welcome post a bit, so that it stresses the part about how the rules have to be obeyed, if you get my point. Might save us a few troublemakers _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Can't say I couldn't see this coming. A while back I was noticing lots of disrespect from many students on the servers. Not really a good way to honour the work that has been done to try and make this the best gaming community on the planet. _______________ Website |
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_cmad_ - Ex-Student 
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This won't fix anything... Bleh... _______________ Your friends of today, are your enemies of tomorrow. |
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Squibit - Student
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nah it proably won't kick / ban the idiots, let others have the rooms EDIT: This reminds me a lot of "class detentions" when because 4 or 5 were messing around the teachers kept the whole class behind. It annoyed me then and i'm still a bit annoyed now, I know it is your right of course to lock any rooms u feel like and we are privalaged to be allowed in them and even to of had them created for us. But just because a few people are doing stupid things doesnt mean you should take away privaleges of the rest of the academy, which in the main part are real nice, respectful, sensible guys. I urge you to think of a different solution, though of course i agree somthing must be dont, I have great doubts to this being the best solution. EDIT2: Heh, maybe katan should't have unlocked all the rooms for me _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
This comment was edited by Squibit on Jun 14 2004 07:07pm. |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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I dont know if this will fix the problem |
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aph3x - Retired 
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guns dont lame people people lame people dont hate on the guns. |
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