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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student  |
Hey guys  i aint posetd in a while anyway straight to the point,I use single but ive somewhat found it a bit..boring and repative so im using staff [aswelll as single] i need sum advice..i used to sallot before but forgot it all  -Shadow hunter _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Yeah but the game guides don't apply to the patch as well. The patch updated a lot of things. But yeah, depending on what swing you're doing either duals or red can have the longest range. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student 
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Just read all the game guides, even the stance description in the SP. Dual has a long range but red has the longest range of all. Everyone knows that.  _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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actually the left duals swing has a longer range than the right red swing. try it yourself. find a flat wall, hold walk, swing at the wall and adjust until u can just scratch the surface, and mark the distance of the swing with ur gun!!! |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student
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Actually red, especially the right swing has the longest range. _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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Sauce - =^.^=
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it's really hard to rank things that are different but here i go!!! Dmg per swing 1)red 2)staff 3)duals Dmg per second 1)staff 2)duals 3)red i was bored so i went to test some swings out!!! and haha! Range (standing) 1)duals 2)red 3)yellow 4)staff who would've thought dualz have more range than red standing. red has a longer range in duelz because of it manuverability--meaning u can move more between the swings--and not because of the actual swing animation. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Quote: 1: Red 2: Dual 3: Single Yellow and staff are about the same, depends on which move really. 5: Blue It all depends on what mod you're using as well. In JAR (Jedi Academy Reloaded), I find this to be more truthful: 1. Red 2. Duals and Staff are about equal 3. Yellow 4. Blue However, in JA+, I've found this to be true: 1. Red 2. Duals 3. Yellow 4. Staff 5. Blue But as Jaina explains, it all depends on your experiences with each stance as well. Different counters and how fast you are with combos makes each stance a little bit better than others. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student 
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Sorry I just typed it wrong, what I meant was: 1: Red 2: Dual 3: Single Yellow and staff are about the same, depends on which move really. 5: Blue _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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Jaina D'Kana - Jedi Instructor 
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Quote: Dual, Staff and yellow are equal No offense but i totally disagree. Try single yellow vs staff or duals and tell me they are equal. _______________ INTP |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student
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Of course blue "can" block yellow and red but it's very, very unlikely. Even if you do block it, you get a severe recoil from blocking it. Most of the time the attack will move though your block and hit you. _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: ..can only block another blue. thought i'd say that's not exactly the case from my experience. yellow and blue can block red. just more likely to NOT do it or have your saber knocked outta your hand if you're blocking red with yellow. and even MORE likely to have either of those happen if you're blocking red with blue. that's my experience anyway  _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student
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The name's Kyle by the way. Anyway just so you guys get an idea of which styles have a stronger block here they are from stronger to weaker, red has the strongest block (it can block any style), Dual, Staff and yellow are equal, then blue, which has virtually no block, it can only block another blue. So consider what style you are using and what style your opponent is using so that you know whether your counter or block will work. Also if you have a server, having saber touch damage on will improve players ability to block and counter. _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Quote: Cheap Plug time HAHA, indeed  _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Janus - Retired 
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Cheap Plug time, if you get a chance, come to my Staff class and I'll show you everything about Staff for beginners. If you can't make the class, drop me a message on my profile or IM me, i'd be glad to meet up and go over the basics to get you started. _______________ Be honorable, be friendly, be trustworthy. Show respect to all whom you meet. Don't forget you learn when you win AND when you lose. Be the first to admit mistake AND the first to correct it. Be the shoulder for someone to lean on. Always remember those that sacrificed time to help you. Thank you Odan Wei, Vladarion, 3th, Moridin, n00b, Motrec, Faded, Leif, and Tido, you will not be forgotten as the ones to make you remember, it's all about fun... |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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That's good advice previous poster (not sure what the name is so I'll leave it at that). However, staff can be just as good defensively. Those are the two types of staffers, offense, defense. The trick is to see which you are better at. For offense, yeah, just try and attack them as best as you can, catching them off gaurd most of the times. Strafing helps. For defense, it's best to wait for an open spot, and make your move. Jumping around comes in handy here. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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{-A-}/<yle - Student
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The moves in the Staff stance are designed for rushing. A good strategy with staff is to rush your opponent from the side, leaving them vulnerable and unable to defend. In case you don't know what rushing is, it's attacking quickly and rapidly, sometimes catching opponents off guard. Also be careful of not attacking pointlessly. A trap that Staff users often fall into is attacking when their range is clearly too short. Having the shortest range, staff users have to draw in close and take away their opponents adavantage of distance. Good luck with the staff, the most difficult style to master. _______________ Please visit the Arcane Academy, IP:206.251.236.204:29070. Hosted by Mammoth Games. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Ah, indeed, Odan does r0x0r Sfire's b0x0rz _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Sfire - Student 
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w00t! Can't forget Odan-Wei!!!!!!! R0cks! _______________ |Sfire - Padawan to MOTREC, Gradius| |Owner of Motrec's and Gradius's 999th Comments! Also Smily's 5001 comment and 3th's 1903 comment! Also, cannot forget to mention the proud owner of Gradius' 3000th comment!| |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Quote: ok, well we have two classes in staff, both taught by Kueller and his Padawan Daidalus I think You should try getting into one of those classes, since they'll deffinately be worth it No, unfortunately Daid hasn't been around to teach staff. But don't forget about SmilyCrazy, she's an uber staffer as well, and I believe she runs a staff class too! _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider This comment was edited by Gradius on Aug 30 2004 11:29pm. |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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come on people i found sum basics even tho its da LONG time ago since i made this forum ive been on and off the staff for ages ;\ ive been doing ok...i quess :S but i still need advise  _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Ashyr - Student 
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Well, here's what I learned: The staff's strategy is simple, but not easy. staff vs red - Dodge their swings and hit them inbetween or after their swings. You have to time these very well. A mistake is devistating to your health. staff vs yellow - yellow scissors (which will be the primary attack they use) are limited, while staff scissors are not. So, the object is to hit them during the end of their combo, so your scissors can outlast theirs. This doesn't always work, cause they often jump away, but it's effective if it does, and not very risky on your part. staff vs staff - In this case, you both have the same speed and damage. So my best advice is to attack them while their back is open. Spins are the best windows for a good short, but direct, hit to the back, hurting them allot. I'd recommend charging scissors and fast simple attacks for this kind of fight. staff vs duals - I still haven't been able to master this, but I've found that duals have suprizingly strong defence. They parry almost automatically, making them fast and dangerous. You might want to handle them similarly to a staff vs staff duel. Though remember: every saber's biggest weakness in defence, is from the bottom. Well, that's all I can get out right now. Keep dueling. Practice will help you learn faster than anything. (cleshè comment) _______________ Top ten reasons to get a better computer...|My fan |
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Mikel Rider - Student 
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You wanta meet up and Ill skool ya in staff, and i said in not with . _______________ Using no way as way. Having no limitation as limitation. |
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Dammerung - Student |
Staves are my forte, so here is some basic advice: -The staff is a rather agressive weapon, and it can deliver multiple strikes with a single attack. -Be careful about its special moves, they tend to leave you open to lunges and thrusts. -Learn to use the kick. It's a very useful technique and can mean a quick win if you manage a downward stab with it. -Finally, when crowded, use the Kata. It will not always work, but you become a living buzz saw and can make quick work of anyone close enough. That's all I can offer, others can tell you more. _______________ "It's over Anakin! This high ground adds +5 to my agility!" "HAX!" |
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ioshee - Student 
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I'm a staff master... Oh wait, you're talking about the game. I'm in the wrong forum. _______________ One of the Belouve boys |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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hmm i dont get all this class stuff all to time sensetive..i need a staff master :s _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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ok, well we have two classes in staff, both taught by Kueller and his Padawan Daidalus I think You should try getting into one of those classes, since they'll deffinately be worth it _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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