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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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I have a new topic to bring to the table. I was given a track from a Jehova witness about the death of loved ones along with a sympathy card which I'm taking with me today to work to read and search out the scriptures that are mentioned on it. I was just wondering how people felt about death, what scriptures they may or may not know dealing with death, what they believe happens to people when they die both true believers and non-believers, and if anything can be done for them once they die. I kinda think something may be possible for them since God says that all things are possible for Him, but at the same time I believe I have read scriptures that tell of ones fate being sealed once they have died. Now for oneself I can see this, but God is from everlasting past to everlasting future. He knows the wants and aches before you even bring them to Him which leads me to believe that one could pray for a loved one who has past hoping in God's great mercy that He would have known your pain before the foundation of the world, been moved by it, and given you what you wished for because in my limited mind that seems like a God that can make all things possible. No scriptures have yet been posted so don't take any of this as God's law. I also know that Catholics believe in purgatory or something like that which I can't find any type of referance to in the Bible and other denominations might have their favorite scriptures and ideas so I would like to pool all of these thoughts together on the table to see if we can't find some truth to this subject. Thank you _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Here's one that needs to be searched out a bit. In Matt. 27:9 we read: 9) Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying, AND THEY TOOK THE THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER, THE PRICE OF HIM THAT WAS [VALUED] {PRICED}, WHOM THEY OF THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL [DID VALUE] {PRICED}; I find referance to this in the book of Zech. 11:12. Now I've said it before and I'll say it again that I am ignorant to a great many books of the Bible and Jeremiah is one of them. Could someone who has spent some time in Jeremiah post the scriptures quoted in Matthew if and when they have the chance? This is just to put my mind at rest. Thank you. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Darth Jason - Student 
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you will find a great many truths depend on your point of view _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote: What is your opinion on creationism koyi? Do you believe genesis to be a literal telling of how the world was created? I wasn't there, but I'll take God's Word on it. Whether it is a literal or spiritual teaching, I am not sure, but I lean more towards the literal because it would be such on awesome demonstration of God's power. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student
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In Leviticus 20:13 we read: 13) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. God clearly states here that homosexuality is an abomination and that those who partake in it shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them says that their blood shall be their covering instead of the blood of Jesus. The fact that God says they shall surely die isn't commanding us to kill them and even though other passages in the Bible will be quick to say stone this one and do this to that one isn't the full message. Once we read more of the Bible we see that God's people will judge the living and the death with Him on the last day and can see how this is a picture of God's people and what they will do. We learn that vengence belongs only to God and that we are not to judge others. We are only to faithfully proclaim the gospel of God into all of the world. Now if we were to say "Being different is okay" we would be in clear violation of God's command to preach faithfully. What we do in this life on this world can't change the immoral thinking of humanity. Now you can go on to argue that we only add fuel to the fire when we take that stand, but if we don't then we are just adding more fuel to our own fires that will burn forever and ever. If one man attacks another for whatever reason, what can I do about it? People get murdered for their shoes! What, am I suppost to work 4 jobs day and night to make sure I can afford enough shoes for those types of people? Can I feed the poor? Cure the sick? No, but God can stop that type of suffering and will in some lives. Someone in this world suffering for whatever reason is a terrible thing, I know this first hand, but it is only a drop in the ocean. I would rather have the most aweful, dispicable, full life ravaged with pain, suffering, and anything else if I knew God was waiting for me on the other side because what's 80 years here in the now compared to 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 years in the new heavens and the new earth. It's nothing and this huge number is only but that small fraction of the next large number and the next and the next forever. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Quesi - Student 
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I dont think you understand what I'm getting at here. Read the Bible as a contemporary text. Those pages document historical events, those words that are written are what God said then. He says those things are wrong, but those punishments only apply to the people he spake of. Punishments are selectable, you can choose to punish or not to punish. God chose to punish those people at that time. Moral wrongs are not selectable, however. You cannot say it is wrong for let's say, me to commit adultery, but Gil, it's ok for you. Thats what I'm getting at. I don't know how else to describe it. Who knows? I might be wrong entirely. I don't know. These are only my own views. edit: I just want to add, that God later decided to be merciful, and change his decision. He sent his son into the world to forgive our sins. God makes some decisions that we may never understand. Leviticus 1 : 2 'Tell the people of Israel...' _______________ "Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash [Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan]  [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great This comment was edited by Quesi on Jan 12 2005 06:59pm. |
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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But why ignore the punishments and keep the rules? If those punishments were what god wanted then, like the rules, why would it have changed by now? Edit: please dont think Im getting at you quesi, i would just like to know how you can justify following one thing in the bible and not another, if its really the word of God. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life This comment was edited by Gil-Galad on Jan 12 2005 05:09pm. |
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Quesi - Student
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Simple. Keep the rules, ignore the punishments. Or rather, don't ignore the punishments because if you do those things, God wasn't happy about it back then and hes not going to be any happier now. The old testament is a history textbook, it is full of stories about God's people. The new testament is the book of teaching. Jesus taught us that we are not to be the judges, God is. I'm not saying you should ignore the old testament; it is a book that is full of moral principles. But remember it is a recording of events, it is God speaking to those people then. It is something we should look at for reference. You shouldnt repeat history, but take heed of the lessons to be learnt from it. In my opinion. _______________ "Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash [Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great |
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Gil-Galad - Student
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So how exactly do you go about picking what things to believe and follow and what ones not to? _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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Quesi - Student
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I must admit, Leviticus is a book that scares me. It's full of things that desribe God as wrathful, vengeful and makes him sound like a pretty nasty guy at points. But its also a book that has to be put into context. Leviticus is one of the most difficult books to follow in the Bible. It's filled with detailed (sometimes repulsive) instructions about animal sacrifices, building the Temple, and celebrating certain religious festivals. It also contains explicit guidelines for all people about diet, personal relationships and other areas of life. Some of them seem irrelevant to today; I doubt God really wants new mothers offer a dove for a sin offering today, for example But behind all these details are the themes that help us to understand what it means to follow God today.Remember that this is after Moses was instructed to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. Exodus 3 : 23 'After a long time, the King of Egypt died. The people of Israel groaned, because they were forced to work very hard. When they cried for help, God heard them. God heard their cries, and he remembered the agreement he had made with Abraham, Isaac and Israel (God promised that their descendants would be many and would be given land on which to live). He saw the troubles of the people of Israel, and he was concerned about them.' How was God repayed to lead those people out of Egypt, through Moses? When things started going against them, they made idols, sinned sexually, etc etc. Check out Exodus 32 as an example. (v1 'Make us Gods that will lead us'!!) Naturally, God was infuriated. He saved them from a miserable existence and was stabbed in the back, in return. Luckily for them, God had mercy on them after threatening them with destruction. God wanted to make sure that these people got off on the right foot. God saved them and was angry at all their sins despite the mercy he had showed them. As a result, Leviticus was written. God was speaking to Moses and his people, giving specific instructions to them at the time. The full word must not be carried through for today. However, the underlying theme still teaches a few morals (or immorals, if you choose not to believe them), hence you don't see Christians stoning people in the street today.  _______________ "Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash [Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great |
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Fire - Student 
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I believe that human feelings should be felt on the own human thought. I could seriously care less if you were gay. I was never raised to become any religions, I'm merely an Athiest or Heathen, whatever you want to call me Simply, if you want to believe something, I'll let you live on with the belief, I could care less about what you believe. Believe what you want, but keep in mind that there is truth out there, and maybe, just maybe, we'll find it. I really don't know what I'm seriously talking about. Have a nice day! This comment was edited by Fire on Jan 12 2005 12:02am. |
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Gil-Galad - Student 
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if that was aimed at me: I was illustrating a point to quesi that the bible does tell people how to treat others if you read it literally, as several of the people here have claimed they do. Im arguing against homophobia, saying that the belief that homosexuals are an abomination as someone earlier said leads to violence and attacks on homosexuals. My views on christianity in this thread are based simply on the people in this thread. I am aware that the majority of christians do not follow the bible literally and are more liberal. If that wasnt: Ignore me, I'm not really here, I'm just a figment of your imagination wooooooOOOOoooo /runs _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life This comment was edited by Gil-Galad on Jan 11 2005 11:36pm. |
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Tido - Student 
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I'd be really upset if anyone went around attacking homosexuals 'in the name of God'. That's not what my religion teaches. I have no idea where your views on Christianity come from, but they certainly don't come from the Anglo-Catholic church. |
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Gil-Galad - Student
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'If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they should surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:13' That sounds pretty much like telling people how to treat others to me. If i can interpret it that way, whats stopping someone who actually believes in this stuff? Especially when others like yourself say that homosexuality is an abomination, legitimising the other who just thinks you dont have the guts to follow the bible word for word. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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Quesi - Student 
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What you say is probably true. I'd just like to add, I would never write something in a sincere way if I did not believe it. I think what you are describing is religious intolerance. Fundamentalism that goes beyond verbal attacks to physical attacks. That, I think you'll agree, is completely unnacceptable. Religious extremists are not religious. They are just extreme. I would be horrified if somebody beat up a homosexual. Anyone who did this and believed they were doing God's will are misguided entirely. I respect people's decisions, for it is their right that they can do as they choose. Everybody should respect each other, not for what or who they are, but just simply as a fellow human being. We are all equal. I think it's nice you bring up this point Gil, because I want people to realise that the Bible does not tell you what to do about people around you. The Bible tells you what to do for yourself... and that's it. When I post scripture from the Bible, I quote from the Bible to the person reading it. That scripture does not come from me or anybody else. Nobody can act on this earth and claim to be doing God's will. Nobody. We do not know every aspect of God's will so how can we ever be certain of doing the right thing? We can't. Therefore, we can only live by our own morals, whether we form our own, get them from somewhere else, or whatever. But we should not interfere with other people who go through the same process. Tolerance is the word of the day. If everybody were tolerant enough, then these things never happen. I think that sometimes, this message needs be spread in the church more often. _______________ "Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash [Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great |
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Gil-Galad - Student
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Quote: Well Gil I'll pop in to give you an answer to that on what's to be thought of the religious who think being gay is wrong. There is the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin." I believe that is what is preached by many churches. So even if they see being gay as "wrong" its definitely wrong for violence to be committed for those reasons. Of course, I would never suggest that the church would actually condone such violence. That was not the point I was making. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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Quote: I for one do not percieve you to be a bad guy. However, the continuation of the belief that being gay is immoral leads to people suffering and being killed. You may not act on it, but respectable people like yourself saying its ok to believe being gay is wrong, increases the amount of less respectable people who are willing to hurt homosexuals, because they believe God is on their side. Even if they are mistaken, the amount of people like yourself saying that being gay is wrong gives these others some kind of confirmation or validation for their ignorant hatred. Only when we ALL say, 'actually, its ok to be different', can this kind of suffering stop. Well Gil I'll pop in to give you an answer to that on what's to be thought of the religious who think being gay is wrong. There is the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin." I believe that is what is preached by many churches. So even if they see being gay as "wrong" its definitely wrong for violence to be committed for those reasons. _______________ When you are going through Hell, keep going. -Sir Winston Churchill. Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it. |
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Gil-Galad - Student
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Thats a very cool and interesting story quesi. I am always curious as to how people come to believe in God. I too have had positive prayer experiences when I believed. I for one do not percieve you to be a bad guy. However, the continuation of the belief that being gay is immoral leads to people suffering and being killed. You may not act on it, but respectable people like yourself saying its ok to believe being gay is wrong, increases the amount of less respectable people who are willing to hurt homosexuals, because they believe God is on their side. Even if they are mistaken, the amount of people like yourself saying that being gay is wrong gives these others some kind of confirmation or validation for their ignorant hatred. Only when we ALL say, 'actually, its ok to be different', can this kind of suffering stop. _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life |
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Quesi - Student
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I've been a Christian all my life. Or, at least, I've tried to be one. I must admit, it was through no miracle or revelation that this occured... I was brought up that way. I don't think the teaching I recieved from the church was a doctrine; childhood innocence or naivity might well have influenced the fact I truly believed in a greater being than humankind. As I grew in age and knowledge (as we all do) I began to doubt those very teachings I had recieved. However, a small seed of belief still existed within me. I decided that the best course of action would be to pray, to see if God really could make a difference. I went to church, I went to Christian festivals. I enjoyed the companionship that the people around me provided. As I got more and more involved, I began to enjoy prayer sessions, and then, through a number of personal experiences (which I could write about at length, if you so wish), I began to rekindle that little faith I had. As the years have gone by, I have more actively pursued my beliefs. I read the Bible to discover the truths within it. (Please dont elaborate on this point, I believe the Bible holds many truths within it because the followers of God before me have used it). With time, I have learned to recognise some of the more practical uses of the Bible in life: it can help in all situations, it is a guidebook to life for a Christian. Seeing other people using the Bible is no longer a reason for me to be reading it; it's because it genuinely interests me, and helps me with day to day issues. That is why I try to live as a follower of God. As a follower of God, I have nothing to lose. I live my life much the same as everybody else, but acknowledge a greater being. If God exists, I pray he will have mercy on me. To other non-believers, I only hope that I am percieved in a good light and I'm just a guy who has some religious beliefs. I believe my moral teachings to be in good taste, I believe I have so far lived my life responsibly. Whether I believe in God or not shouldn't matter, as everybody should have their own morals to live by. I just choose to pursue a relationship with God _______________ "Your powers are weak old man" || Part of the "Fifth Element Appreciation Society" || Proud possession of Flash [Jacen_Aratan] bleh [Jacen_Aratan] last year of school :p [Jacen_Aratan] after the finals I am freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [Jacen_Aratan] until I have to go on more advanced education [Jacen_Aratan] [Acey_Spadey] like kindergarten(Bubu) my sister was quite good actually.. never expected her to be so good (Gradius) yeah, she's great This comment was edited by Quesi on Jan 11 2005 05:45pm. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Quote: Flame much!?!  Please be careful what you do here in the Jedi Academy. If you like what it has to offer, obey it's Rules!Prove your account here if your so smart or explain to me how some type of cosmic fart blew the universe into a well maintained non chaotic system that we observe today? Did any of us witness any of these things? No, we didn't yet many of us humans follow the so-called "Educated Guesses" that others have made and believe on their ideas more then an ancient texted that had more chances of fading away than any other. Believe in whatever you like, but don't flame me or take part in this discussion if you have nothing constructive to add to it. How is it flaming to state my opinion? And you did say that IIRC.. To stop this degenerating into an argument, let me put forward a question to any christians: What makes you follow Christianity above any other religion / atheism, and why do you believe in it? _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart This comment was edited by Scythus Aratan on Jan 11 2005 05:21pm. |
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Gil-Galad - Student
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Quote: This is an interesting point for me. I refuse to accept that I need God to exist to do good deeds. My good deeds originate from me and me alone, or how can I be said to be a free or good person? Yes, you can do good deeds by yourself for yourself and others in the eyes of men. I didn't mean to make it sound as if nobody can do any good at all without God directing them. The good that we to is just vanity, it's smoke with no real reward or substance. Actually, they may even put us into greater debt for the wages of sin is death. We can fool ourselves into believing that we are doing good for ourselves, good for our neighbors, our country, etc. but what do we really profit from it? Some good feelings? Maybe some type of good reactions in return? In God's eyes it all might very well be vanity where we are puffing up our own egos thinking that we are something great, that we really make a difference in the grand scheme of things, or require some type of payment for what our works have accomplished. As a humanist, I would say the fact that a good deed helps another person in some form is all the reward I would ever need. I dont need divine reward to do good deeds, I do it because it will help someone, and that is enough for me. The grand scheme of things doesn't bother me, if I make one person happy, thats enough for me. Frankly, I dont care what God has to say about it, because from what I see in the world around me, if he does exist, I certainly dont have to answer to him. Quote: Being a free person is an illusion to some degree too If we dont have freedom, how can you justify god punishing us? How can anyone hold someone responsible for their actions? If we are not free, surely god is the originator of all sin? Quote: I hope and pray that you are still reaching out to God. I don't know if you ever really believed or if something steared you away from wanting to believe, but there's hope for all of us which is a huge blessing. The day of salvation is at hand and we too can be delivered from our sins. I did really believe, but after studying philosophy I learnt to rely on rationality, logic and evidence; and to not come to fantastic and awesome conclusions unless there is enough evidence. I would love to be able to believe in god, and will continue searching for him, but I have not found him anywhere yet, certainly not in the world around me, and not in the bible. Quote: True, God didn't pen the Bible with His own hand. He worked through the Holy Spirit in those who wrote it. God is very clear about the fact that He wrote His Word. Holy men of old spoke as God the Holy Spirit moved them. You only believe this if you believe that the bible is true. Therefore, you only believe the bible is valid and true, if the bible is true. This is a circular and therefore invalid argument. Quote: Prove your account here if your so smart or explain to me how some type of cosmic fart blew the universe into a well maintained non chaotic system that we observe today? Did any of us witness any of these things? No, we didn't yet many of us humans follow the so-called "Educated Guesses" that others have made and believe on their ideas more then an ancient texted that had more chances of fading away than any other. Believe in whatever you like, but don't flame me or take part in this discussion if you have nothing constructive to add to it. I wouldnt see what he said as a flame, just a suggestion as to how the bible may have developed. We know that stories change from as they are passed from person to person, and translation to translation. The only reason you would think the bible is not subject to this is if you believe God preserves the word it contains. So once again, ou believe the bible is valid only if the bible is valid. What is your opinion on creationism koyi? Do you believe genesis to be a literal telling of how the world was created? _______________ |JAA| since 02/05/06 Green for life This comment was edited by Gil-Galad on Jan 11 2005 05:08pm. |
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i was just reading some background material for my ethics course, and this guys put forward an argument that if a view if immutable (in that he would believe it no matter what, regardless of evidence or everything else arguing against it?), it is not a valid view. Im not trying to challenge anyones faith here, but do any christians here believe that 'god exists, nothing will change my mind' and if so how would you argue against this persons arguement? (ill post it when i have the time to type it up or something) _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Bubu - Hubbub 
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*sniff* I smell a "Thread Closed." in the air. _______________ make install -not war |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Hey guess what..... RELAX. Holy crap. Do jokes exist in your universe, or are they an abomination? And what he wrote was true; you know it as well. People exaggerate stories over time. Ever heard of the one feather that turned into ten hens? And just because it's old, does NOT mean it's true. Give us evidence, and we shall reconsider. While you believe what you want, we'll stick to our "crappy human logic". |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote: At first it is "Then we crossed the reed sea, just as it was closing, trapping the egyptians on the other side, and letting us escape." 200 years on: "Then Moses opened up the reed sea, and we crossed over, trapping them on the other side, and letting us escape." Another 300 years "Then Moses used the power of God to open up the red sea, walls of water a mile high, and bringing it down on the egyptians behind us, killing them all, for they were not true believers." Another 2000 Years Koyi: It must be true! Flame much!?! Please be careful what you do here in the Jedi Academy. If you like what it has to offer, obey it's Rules!Prove your account here if your so smart or explain to me how some type of cosmic fart blew the universe into a well maintained non chaotic system that we observe today? Did any of us witness any of these things? No, we didn't yet many of us humans follow the so-called "Educated Guesses" that others have made and believe on their ideas more then an ancient texted that had more chances of fading away than any other. Believe in whatever you like, but don't flame me or take part in this discussion if you have nothing constructive to add to it. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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