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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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I know that they are making a movie based on that book. I see the poster off it everyday in the theatre I work at. As far as it's claims, they are merely nonsense in my view. When you study the Bible, both old and new testaments, it speaks of Jesus' coming, rising, death, and glory. God glorified Him before He ever walked the earth. Divinity was already around Jesus years before Jesus came into being when the Israelities carried the scriptures with them, something the churches never had part in doing. As far as them picking and choosing books to create a glossary as you say, I must admit ignorance to that subject because I've never really looked into that. I do believe however that God inspired and wrote His Word. The Word relates to Jesus and no one was able to frustrate His plan, not even Satan, while He walked the earth. I believe the Bible, not the catholic Bible, is the Word of God. Again, I'm not saying it is, I just believe it is because their weren't two Jesus' nor does the old and new testaments talk about pergatory and things of that nature. There's just too much confusion and disagreements between the hidden books and the Bible for me to accept them. With God doing what He did makes me believe that His Word is truth. The miracles and sights weren't recorded in history as false or shown as records of some crazy man. Jesus was here and did wonderful things full of power. The Bible doesn't record Jesus getting married or having children or anything like that so I don't believe He did and I just ignore idea's like that. That's not to say that He didn't because I wasn't there nor does the Bible say He didn't, but I can't see God in the person of Jesus Christ wedding a woman. Eternal God becoming married just doesn't paint a clear picture. Especially when the Bible tells us that when we die, we are no longer married or held in marriage. It would be a fruitless thing for Jesus to do as I understand it. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Llomar Kroyd - Student 
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I began reading the Da Vinci Code last week, I had no prior warning of its content and thought it would be a simple thriller. What I found was pure blasphemy, written in a way that suggests truth. This has led to the book being a best seller read by a large proportion of the population. The author 'Dan Brown' may try and say it is merely fiction but the words are based on writings by others suggesting the same thing. I threw the book away and I suggest people do the same, it caused me so much inner struggle when I read it and would be grateful to anyone who can shed light on the subject. The book suggests that Jesus was married to Mary Magdelene and had children, also that the bible is not divine but merely a glossary chosen by the catholic church at its birth merely to discredit women and MAry Magdelene all in an attempt to create an image of divinity round Jesus. Discuss. |
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Darth Jason - Student 
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Quote: That's a bold statement that could hold some truth, but I don't openly agree with that. The world is what the world is and the world is God's enemy imo. The world is full of sin and God in the person of Jesus Christ will return to destroy the world. Now the Bible is quick to tell us to be in the world but not of the world. Many joyous things can come out of the world and make our physical lifes better, but what does that do for the spiritual life? The Bible illustrates this in the parable of the rich and the poor man. Further, it tells us what does one get if they gain the whole world, but loose their life? Now things like child birth, good health, food, shelter, funds, etc. are all great blessing that the Lord gives us daily, but remember that the Lord says that He gives sun to both the righteous and the wicked. We all receive blessings everyday. Even when we feel that it's the worst day of our lives, we're still alive aren't we? It's still the day of salvation and we aren't out of luck yet. The Word of God is imo the most precious gift God could has given to us because it leads us to salvation and gives us light. We would be in the dark without hope without it, but remember that the Bible is quite clear about God giving His people ears to hear His teachings. Without God applying His Word to our hearts and lives, it is of no good to us. Salvation is the ultimate blessing which is a spiritual one, an everlasting one. One that won't end with the world and us being here in the flesh should be running for this goal as much as humanly possible for life is but a drop in the ocean of eternity. I am not trying to take away from that at all, but I find more and more that people are forgetting the wonderful reasons that we follow the word and miss the truths held within that we encounter in our everyday lives _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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Sweet post Koyi Much <3 _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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That's a bold statement that could hold some truth, but I don't openly agree with that. The world is what the world is and the world is God's enemy imo. The world is full of sin and God in the person of Jesus Christ will return to destroy the world. Now the Bible is quick to tell us to be in the world but not of the world. Many joyous things can come out of the world and make our physical lifes better, but what does that do for the spiritual life? The Bible illustrates this in the parable of the rich and the poor man. Further, it tells us what does one get if they gain the whole world, but loose their life? Now things like child birth, good health, food, shelter, funds, etc. are all great blessing that the Lord gives us daily, but remember that the Lord says that He gives sun to both the righteous and the wicked. We all receive blessings everyday. Even when we feel that it's the worst day of our lives, we're still alive aren't we? It's still the day of salvation and we aren't out of luck yet. The Word of God is imo the most precious gift God could has given to us because it leads us to salvation and gives us light. We would be in the dark without hope without it, but remember that the Bible is quite clear about God giving His people ears to hear His teachings. Without God applying His Word to our hearts and lives, it is of no good to us. Salvation is the ultimate blessing which is a spiritual one, an everlasting one. One that won't end with the world and us being here in the flesh should be running for this goal as much as humanly possible for life is but a drop in the ocean of eternity. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Darth Jason - Student 
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[qoute]...but remember that for some people their entire belief system stems from the Word contained within it. The only problem with that point of view, In my opinion, is that people can focus too much on the word of God and not enough on the experience. There are many joyus events in our everyday lives that we don't even consider the good work of God and we forget that these experiences are also part of Gods teachings _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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Dunn'Canni - Student 
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Quote: debating translation issues with the Bible is the same as a merry-go-round As is the case for any concepts involving interpretation; it may seem as if debating a Holy Book seems like a waste of time, but remember that for some people their entire belief system stems from the Word contained within it. Is there anything wrong, therefore, in ensuring that what they think they are reading is accurater (i.e. the original books are in Greek and Hebrew - believers will want to follow this Word, and, unless they are familiar with Ancient Greek and Old Hebrew, will need an accurate translation). An example of just how vital translation is would be the name of God - Yahweh - as He is described in the Hebrew scriptures and as this is translated into English. Whether we translate "yachid" (meaning single entity, evidence against Trinitarianism) or "echad" (meaning compound unity, evidence for Trinitarianism). The entire foundation of Christian faith rests upon how these two words are translated, so it is hardly futile to discuss them. _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Darth Jason - Student
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I think you make a valid point Memphis. But sooner or later the merry go round has to stop. Hopefully when that happens we will all "just get along", but the first step is understanding and that can only begin when we can all have an open mind towards each other and our respective beliefs. _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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Memphis - Student 
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I'll have to go with the general phrase "can't we all get along?" But seriously, debating translation issues with the Bible is the same as a merry-go-round, you feel like you're going somewhere and are being entertained, but are just going around and looking plain silly. Much <3 _______________ We would not seek a battle as we are, yet as we are, we say we will not shun it. <-=RA-NR=-> |
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Jade - Student 
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Hi Darth Jason, I have the same problem...opening my mouth and putting my foot in it... I'm not sure of the comments you have made, but your honesty and humbleness is a good example to us all. It warms my heart to see this quality....again...I was worried that the JA was starting to forget to Love each other...THANKS! Jade  _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Darth Jason - Student
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I had posted a comment on one of the religous threads which I fear may have offended a few members of the Academy. I apologize for this. Thiugh it is not usually what I intend I have a way of wording my thoughts in a less than sensitive way. I do encourage open dialouge between peoples of different faiths and I try(not always successfully)to respect peopls beliefs. I am extremly fond of open debate on the topic of faith as well as educational conversations about the same. I only ask that my shameful comment can be forgotten and we all can move on without incident and as friends.Once again I am Extremly Sorry if I have offended anyone and I will do my best to avoid this problem in the future. _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! This comment was edited by Darth Jason on May 18 2005 04:49pm. |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Good news, or so I believe. I recently went looking around for a Greek interliniar Bible and I found one that has both Greek and Hebrew. ^_^ It's priced at about $160, but a friend of mine can get it for close to $100. A great buy if it's a word for word translation of the original language text. As soon as I know it is, it is mine!!!! _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote: "Join us" in the discussion or "join us" in becoming regular Bible-readers? What I should have said is maybe there are people out there that don't have a Bible, but are very interested in a subject and this could be the perfect tool for them. Some might be thinking of posting a particular verse, but don't want to get their Bible's to look it up. I've fallen into this catagory a few times whether it be because of time or laziness. However, one could just use this tool right on their computer to solve this problem. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Rainer - Student |
Quote: Very cool and for those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE No NRSV. But yeah, practically any translation. The Bible Gateway -DM- _______________ The Jedi formally known as Ranja. ---------------------- "I can list among my experience and skills: leadership, extensive travel, logistical organization, intimate understanding of firearms, and a knowledge of security measures at numerous banks." - Jesse James This comment was edited by Rainer on Apr 30 2005 07:19am. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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I do 99% of my study on that site Koyi and from what I know, it is all word for word. They are a very highly recognized site and used by millions of people with a vast staff, so I think it is a perfect addition to ones resources. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Dunn'Canni - Student 
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Quote: Heck, maybe I'll just do it so people will have a Bible before them if they would like to join us. "Join us" in the discussion or "join us" in becoming regular Bible-readers? _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Quote: Very cool and for those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- I was just wondering if it has exact word by word translations too along with the original languages. If it does, you just might have saved me alot of money DM. Also if it does, I will add it to the topic box so it doesn't get buried. Heck, maybe I'll just do it so people will have a Bible before them if they would like to join us. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Dunn'Canni - Student
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Yes, that's an excellent site. I've used it numerous times - highly recommend for anything related to the Bible, whatever your needs. _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Very cool and for those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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For anyone who doesn't have a Bible and wants to read the King James edition, check this out. http://www.kingjamesversionofthebible.com/ This comment was edited by  on Apr 28 2005 05:00pm. |
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Dunn'Canni - Student
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OK, while we're on the subject, which Bible do you use? I have a copy of KJV permanently by my bedside for when I want to quietly reflect, as it is the most beautifully written translation I know - it certainly enhances the meaning of the Word for me. I tend to refer to my NIV or GNB copy for actual Biblical study however, as they're written in modern English and are easier to understand. My NIV copy also has detailed notes and interpretations that I find useful. _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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I agree. With God moving in His people surely if there was a real problem with the translations, He would have moved to correct them I feel. Some spiritual lessons can be lost in the changing of phrases and dropping of words as I see it, but God can save all the same by the hearing of His Word. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Amen. _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Dunn'Canni - Student
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I don't think translated version are in any way problematic. You're expressing the Islamic view, in which a Holy Book must remain unchanged for its message to remain consistent. I personally trust those who translated the Bible (and there are some very recent, well-researched translations like the Good News Bible). To me, the word of God is every bit as powerful in my own language as it would have been in Hebrew (for the Old Testament) and Greek (for the New Testament). _______________ "There is no emotion... there is peace. There is no ignorance... there is knowledge. There is no passion... there is serenity. There is no chaos... there is harmony. There is no death... there is the Force." -Master Zhar Lestin |
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Rainer - Student |
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Quote: If you truely want to study God's Word, I would suggest learning the other languages and trying to get your hands on the purest form of original text you can. You caould always pick up a torah, but biblical hebrew is absolutely nutty to translate. Oh and you won't get any goods on the sequal. Yeah... Bereshith bara elohim... wait... what the... God is plural?! AHH! Why is bara singular? HELP! Yeah, Hebrew is nutty. _______________ The Jedi formally known as Ranja. ---------------------- "I can list among my experience and skills: leadership, extensive travel, logistical organization, intimate understanding of firearms, and a knowledge of security measures at numerous banks." - Jesse James This comment was edited by Rainer on Apr 28 2005 05:38am. |
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