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Koyi Donita - Student  |
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible. Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing. I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth. May God bless us all through his wonderful Word. Quote: For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE The Bible Gateway -DM- Thank you Darth Mobility.  _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.  This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm. |
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Plo Koon - Student 
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so you say all the sadness,hatred,and killing and all evil stuff in the world is caused by our sins? like how those little russian children sinned so much to get took up by terrorists,seeing there teachers get shot through the brain,drinking there own pee so they weren't thirsty....for over 3 weeks held by the al Qaeda.sure those little children sinned so much uh huh yeah...  _______________ Free Tibet! Click this link,and learn Here too |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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I think satan was a fallen angel. Don't ask me where in the bible it says that though. How come you don't want Koyi to answer ya? I am sure he has the answer for you right out of the bible. _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Mookie - Ex-Student 
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Where exactly in the Bible is this info? |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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I've always learned it was the Angel Michael who fought Beëlzebub and threw him to the earth... might be wrong though _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Iceman - away- - Student |
His name was Lucifer. He wanted more power and wanted to become God. Other angels joined him but God banned them to Earth. (A long time since I read it last time so might be wrong on some points) |
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Sared - Retired 
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Alright, you might want to shoot me if this gets out of hand, but it IS a valid subject of discussion. The Devil. He is alive and well. He is the prince of the air, and has real power in this world. Where did he come from? The Bible says that he was the Angel of Light, and the director of music in heaven. How did he go from one to the other? I am looking for someone other than Koyi to answer that one.  (no offense mate ) _______________ I'm crazy, not stupid. |
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Smilykrazy - Retired 
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love ya koyi! _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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Wow. It's been awhile since this thread has been used. I never really feel like I have complete truth when it comes to some of the subjects in the Bible. So much of the scriptures I have posted point in one directions while yet others confuse me. With that stated, I was wondering where we are with the subject of "Salvation"? Is anybody any doubts to the truths they hold to other then me? Also, I started a study on the words that Jesus spoke concerning gaining your life and losing it, but losing your life and gaining it. It was going pretty good when I misplaced the papers so I will search for those again. I miss hearing from you guys. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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Wow this forum has died.  _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Jade - Student 
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I'll back that one too Smiley. That was an Excellent parable. Good to remind us that God wants us to be humble. Well done and nice one again Koyi Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Smilykrazy - Retired
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Quote: In Luke 18:9-14 we read: 9) And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10) Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11) The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12) I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13) And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14) I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. This is just a very powerful parable in my eyes and could be viewed as a clear picture of one that is humble. I just wanted to share this scripture with everyone. May God add His Blessing to the reading of His Word. Amen. Awesome koyi! I like that one! _______________ RIP MOM 06/29/58-07/31/08 Married to Koyi Donita 4/30/11 |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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In Luke 18:9-14 we read: 9) And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10) Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11) The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12) I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. 13) And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. 14) I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted. This is just a very powerful parable in my eyes and could be viewed as a clear picture of one that is humble. I just wanted to share this scripture with everyone. May God add His Blessing to the reading of His Word. Amen. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student 
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I just wanted to throw in a quick thought. One of Jesus' parables He talks about a publican (tax collecter) and a Pharisee. I think it's in Luke and will search for it today if possible. This parable is a great read because you see two different people. You see the people who were given charge over the worship and keeping of God's Word and you have a filthy tax collecter who worked for the Romans and were dispised greatly in there day. The Pharisee begins to name off how faithful he's been to God's commandments almost/if not boasting about what he has done. The tax collecter on the other hand was emotionally destroyed as he couldn't lift his head up toward heaven, but beat upon his chest begging God for forgiveness and confessing that he was a sinner. Jesus said as the two left the temple, it was the tax collecter that was something along the lines of put more right with God. As soon as I find this scripture, I will post it. Great stuff. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Let us read that again from Exodus 20:5 5) Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them [worship], nor serve them: for I the LORD you God am a jealous God, visiting [punishing] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; What I believe is in question and is a contradition is the second half of this verse where it says, "visiting [punishing] the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;" Let me go back and read verses 3&4 as they complete the commandment. In Exodus 20:3,4 we read: 3)Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4)Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: As it plainly says, God is God and He is a jealous God. We can find more on this a little further in the same book. In Exodus 34:11-17, we can get a better understanding of what God has in view here. In Exodus 34:12-17 we read: 12)Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be fore a snare in the midst of thee: 13)But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: 14)For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: 15)Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after[play the harlot with] their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifices; 16)And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. 17)Thou shalt make thee no molten gods. Here we can see more clearly that He's talking about passing down bad habits and wrong teachings. The father first will sin by taking of the offerings presented to false gods. Then give his daughters and sons to marry the daughters and sons who go a whoring after other gods. To gain a better look at idol's and false gods let us look at the book of Colossians. In Colossians 3:1-11 we can gain a good insight on this but in verses 5-10 we read: 5)Mortify [Put to death] therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection [passion], evil concupiscence [desire], and covetousness, which is idolatry: 6)For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: 7)In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them. 8)But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9)Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with is deeds; 10)And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: But the key is in verse 5: 5)Mortify [Put to death] therefore your members which are upon the earth;......which is idolatry: God commands us not to do these things, but then we go ahead and do them. These things which we lust for and do on a daily become our gods and we become idolators. Most of these things are past down mother to daughter and father to son. This should not be so. Let us turn to Deuteronomy. In Deuteronomy 4:10 and 6:5-7 we read: 4:10)Specially the day that thou shoodest before the LORD thy God in Horeb, when the LORD said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make thim hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children. 6:5)And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. 6)And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7)And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. You see? In Exodus 20:5 it isn't saying that the children would be punished for their fathers sins or iniquities. It more or less saying that the children's father's iniquities will be punished. Down to the 3rd and 4th isn't saying that he will suffer for their iniquities, but he is held accountable because his children are out of the way. The verse in Ezekiel is really there just to clear this whole misunderstanding up. {Here are some of the verses that touch on Idolatry. Hope all of this helps you out a bit.} May God add His Blessing to the reading of His Word. Amen. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Adultry is a very interesting thing in the Bible Jade. I'm not even going to come close to hitting this one on the head, but I will share what I know. I will studing into this further when the time presents itself to me. Adultry is very simular to fornication in the Bible and almost seem to have the same meaning. I almost believe that fornication is sexual thoughts/intentions/actions before marriage, adultry after with other creatures and not of your flesh. Not of your flesh meaning the two become one as it is read in the Bible of a married couple. The same could be told about the body of true believers becoming one with Christ in Christ which I believe the marriage symbolizes. Now both adulty and fornication aim at whoring around with others whether in heart, mind, or action and point straight to idolitry or worship of false gods. I will pull up a post from the Passion thread touching on idolitry just to give you a quick reference. Idolitry ties into wickedness and wickedness into service to God. Hopefully I can find the scriptures again that clearly point this out. Wicked being those still under God's Judgment or having not received His gift of salvation as of yet. As far as Abram or Abraham and Sarai is concerned, I would just like to remind everyone that this is probably some type of parable with some type of spiritual meaning. The act itself is wrong and we don't see God commanding or asking them to do this. I'm not sure, but I think God does allow other things or perhaps commands other things that conflict with His laws but I'm sure there is a bigger picture in view. I would almost like to say that Abraham might represent God since he is refered to as father Abraham and God is the Father. Sarai I'm not sure about but might tie into God's elect. Don't know. The fact that the children received by Abraham weren't counted unto the promise might have something to do with the sin of the act, but it wasn't really uncommon in that day for a man to marry multiple spouses, not the other way around. A woman was bound to her husband and that was it. The childred by Sarah I believe were the children of the promise and could symbolize that God has children of the promise and children not of the promise but who think they are the seed of Abraham. Again, not sure and I would like to read into it alot more prayerfully because I am merely guessing here. Don't take this as fact at all, I really don't know. Anyhow, I hope this gives you a little of whatever is needed to set you in the right direction in your spiritual walk with God. May God add His Blessing to the reading of His Word for you my friend. Take care Jade and best wishes for you as you study God's Word. I will copy over my old post touching the issue of idolitry. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Jade - Student
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Nice one Obi....cracked me up _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" |
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Wait, Im not supposed to be sacrificing sheep, and virgins? _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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rofl @ koyi.... Jade, I am very pleased to hear that this Study has been such an encouragement. I dont have a lot of time to get into the concubine story, but I WILL this weekend. Take care guys. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Yeah, I hear ya DM. Can I just tell you that back when I picked up my first Bible and started reading it from Genesis, I was like, "What are the churches doing? They've got it all wrong!" I was about to start slaughtering animals because I thought that was what God wanted. Luckily enough, I jumped ahead to read the New Testament once I reached 1 Chronicles and began to understand why things in the church were so different. lol XD Just a funny story I wanted to share. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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Jade - Student
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Thanks for this guys. Clears a lot of thing up. If you havent guessed yet...I am currently reading Genesis. Therefore, my next question or query is about Abraham taking a concubine...or Sarah's maid to bear their first child since Sarah at the time was baren? Genesis 16 Verse 2: "And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, the LORD hath restrained me from bearing. I pray thee, go in unto my maid, it may be that I may obtain children by her. And Abram hearkened to the voice of Sarai". Please excuse my innocense here, it is the first time I have read the Bible as a book rather than as a reference. I am used to following the church readings and just opening the Bible to read whatever God wants me to read...especially if I have prayed for a question (this actually works....many times I have found answers this way) Therefore, I will most likely come to you to help me understand what is writen. Anyway, back to the subject. My query is, is this adultary? I guess it can't be since God has blessed Abraham. To be honest, I am quite content with taking this as writen, but wondered if anyone could help me understand. Thanks again everyone. Oh Koyi...this is more than a library to me. For me this is MY Bible study. The two inspirations in my life who taught me about the God and the Bible are no longer with me...one sadly was killed while visiting Vietnam(his home country) and the other has been posted elsewhere. Therefore, as I have said before, this forum IS important and IS making a difference. I had been in limbo or have been wandering lost since the above happened (1.5 years ago) and only now have been guided back to God and the Bible. Once again....THANK YOU ALL (Koyi and DM especially!) Your friend Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on Aug 06 2004 02:20am. |
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student 
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koyi, No one is trying to say the old testement is not valid. Just the law of old covenants and new convenants. That was what we were talking about. My favorite books of the Bible are in the Old Testament. I am just glad i dont have to sacrafice Lambs for my sins anymore. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Again, I would just like to restate that no body should put any stock into what I say or post. I am only a man search for truth with everyone here. We must search the Bible for all of our answers. The wonderful thing about this forum is we get to post as little or as much scripture we know about that shines light onto what ever subject we might be studying. It's almost like we are all in a library and we all point to different subject matter to bring about more truth to the subject. What a blessing. Anyhow, no scripture will come with this post so take it with a grain of salt. I personally don't believe that the old testament was done away with. I think it's full of parables lived our through Israel and certain peoples lives, full of spiritual truth's, and definately alot of it pertains to this day. Alot of scripture in the new testament if you haven't noticed points back to the old testament over and over and over again. That is because by going back to those scriptures brings greater light and understanding to the topic at hand. True, alot of the ceremonies, the feast days, the offerings, the sacrifices, the new moons, etc. were done away with because they were all signs pointing to the coming and ministry that was and is our Lord Jesus Christ. The message about circumcision is something that I actually touch on in one of my post, but will try to explain to the best of my knowledge,(Don't take it for truth, believe God's Word). God commanded what were His people Israel to circumcise their male population by a certain age. Reason for this is because the people of Israel were a sign or a picture of the true believers and the circumcision was a sign of what God's people needed in order to be His people. In Deuteronomy 30:6 we read: 6) And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. This one is still fresh on the top of my head, so I'll repost it. Basically, circumcision (that is of the flesh) holds no water nor is it at all important but the circumcision(that is of the heart or in spirit) is what counts. Again, the verse about tells us that it is something God must do for us for us to be considered His people/childred. The scripture from Colossians tells us that there is no difference between the circumcised of the flesh and uncircumcised of the flesh because all peoples from all nations can be God's childred. Jew (supposed people of God) and Greek (Gentiles or unbelievers). We are all in the same boat that is sinking and it is for God to pull us to safety. I hope this draws a better picture for you. I will try to find more scripture that will illustrate this better at a later date. Take care everybody and God Bless. _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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DaRtH-MoBiLiTy - Student
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Hi Jade, I know that was directed at Koyi but perhaps I can shed some light on the subject using God's Word. Understanding the difference between the Old and New Testaments is one of the most important foundations that must be laid to properly understand God's Word. Failing to realize the Bible's teaching on this matter can lead to countless erroneous conclusions, possibly costing one's own soul. Therefore, let us turn to the pages of God's Word for an in depth study to let it tell us the difference and significance of the Old and New Testaments. The word "Testament" can have different meanings depending on the context, so the first thing to do is to define the word "Testament" as the Bible defines it. Some religious organizations wish to use one meaning of the word that makes it the testimony of a witness. Therefore, the Old and New Testaments would be older and newer testimonies about God and His people. Adopting this meaning conveniently opens the door for them to usher in an even newer testament, another revelation from God. However, the Bible teaches that it is final, complete, and nothing will ever be added to it. So how does the Bible use the word? "For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives." Hebrews 9:16-17 From this verse we see that the Bible uses the another meaning of the word "testament". It is used in the sense of "last will and testament", or as what we commonly call just a "will". So, the testaments are a type of will, an issue of instructions to be carried out once the one giving the will has died. Therefore, the New Testament is Christ's last will and testament for us to keep now that he has left the earth. However, the word "testament" is one of multiple descriptive words used by the Bible. Before we go further, let's examine the above verse in its fuller context and pick up another description along the way. [i]"But Christ came as High Priest of the good things to come, ... Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood ... For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? "And for this reason he is the mediator of the New Covenant by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. "For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. "Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, saying 'This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.'"[/i] Hebrews 9:11-20 (I apologize for leaving out portions. This passage is rich and deep. The omitted sections deal with other points that would only lengthen this discussion. However, please look it up and read it for yourself since it is important. ) So why was the word "testament" chosen? It served as an illustration to explain the bounds of the covenants and one of the reasons that necessitated Christ's death. For some reason not explained here, it is necessary for blood to be shed for us to receive forgiveness of sins. "And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission." Hebrews 9:22 But the word more often used in the Scriptures, and the word we see in the above context, is the word "covenant". This word describes another facet of these testaments. They are not just a last will and testament, but rather a divine agreement extended by God. The New Testament, or Covenant, is a promise from God that He will save us if we obey His Testament. How does God do this? By the blood of Jesus Christ. In fact, Christ Himself used this terminology in the instituting of the Lord's supper: "For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." Matthew 26:28-29 Therefore, the Old and New Testaments are writings that contain the "last will and testament" of God that enables us to enter a covenant relation with Him. And, one of the central blessings of this covenant relationship is salvation. The old convenants were done away with after Jesus died and he made new covenants with us. These covenants are laid out all through the gospels. It is quite a study and I would love to get into it with you all if that is what we want to do. I hope I shed some light on the subject for you. God's Word definitly has most of our answers, but boy it takes a long time to find them, hehe. -DM- _______________ One Day, it will all end. |
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Jade - Student
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Hi Koyi, Me still reading. I just havent had much time lately to get into the discussions, but have tried to read and learn. Anyway, I have something here that I have a question with. This is taken from a letter from St Paul to the Colossians: "Since you have been brought back to true with Christ, you must look for the things that are in heaven, where Christ is, sitting at God's right hand. Let you thoughts be on heavenly things, not on the things that are on the earth, because you have died, and now the life you have is hiden with Christ in God. But when Christ is revealed - and he is your life - you too will be revealed in all your glory with him. That is why you must kill everything in you that belongs only to earthly life: fornication, impurity, guilty passion, evil desires and especially greed, which is the same thing as worshipping a false god; and never tell each other lies. You have stripped off your old behaviour with your old self, and you have put on a new self which will progress towards true knowledge and more it is renewed in the image of the creator; and in that image there is no room for distinction between Greek and Jew, between the circumcised or the uncircumcised, or between barbarian and Scythian, slave and free man. There is only Christ: he is everthing and he is in everything". Whats your thoughts on this Koyi? I want to pick one part which puzzles me, but more on the general term....the misunderstanding I have between old and new testiments. In Genesis 17 Verse 10: "This is my covenant, which ye shall keep; between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised..." Verse 14: "And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant". ? In the letter from St Paul, it mentions no difference between circumcised and uncircumcised whereas in Genesis is says otherwise. I sometimes see this and never know how to explain or understand it....small differences in old and new testiments. Again, what are your thoughts or have you advice where to look for an answer? Thanks Koyi...keep up the good work Jade _______________ "You don't know the power of the dark side....Buurrp!" This comment was edited by Jade on Aug 05 2004 02:33am. |
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Koyi Donita - Student
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Is anybody out there? <.< >.> o.o Does anybody have anything else to add? O.o o.O Any other topics? XD _______________ For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17 I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her. ...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down.
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