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Jul 01 2004 01:41am

Koyi Donita
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Koyi Donita
Yep. Here it is. My first offical Forum and of course it's about my favorite topic, The Bible.
Basically, I would like this to be an open forum based on the Bible and the truths held with in. If anyone has any Biblical truths that they would like to share with everyone, I ask for you to please put it up on the table as we will all search for truth in God's Word. If anyone has any questions, maybe collectively we may be able to help them through the Bible God willing.

I only ask that if you have no faith or have nothing constructive to post, please respect my wishes and just ignore this forum. All questions from non-believers are welcome as long as you seriously seek God's truth.

May God bless us all through his wonderful Word.

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For those of you who like, this site has every translation. Plus search, studies, GREAT RESOURCE

The Bible Gateway

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Thank you Darth Mobility. :)
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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D

This post was edited by Koyi Donita on Apr 30 2005 05:38pm.

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Jul 02 2004 09:00am

Smilykrazy
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The fact that god created this whole galaxy in 6 days just totally baffles me! He spoke and it was made. That just shows how amazingly almighty god truly is.

What scares me ALOT is just how bad god can punish you. How totally unbareable it must be. The suffering, the agony, the pain! If god can create all of this, everything we know, everything we are, in 6 days!!!! Then I cant even honestly imagine how awful his punishment must be!!

I really wish I knew if I was saved or not. Some days I really want to believe that I am but others I feel that I am not. These are the reasons why I think I am:

1) I think of god everyday
2) I feel the urge to speak with him and pray to him.
3) I feel extremely guilty when I know I am committing a sin.
4) I have EXTREME fear of him.
5) I really want to follow his laws.
6) I really feel inside of me that he is there with me. Its hard to put into words exactly how that feels.

Reasons I do not think I am saved:

1) I constantly sin. Even if I know that I am doing it. I just can not seem to stop myself.
2) I always seem to just do what makes me happy in life. Play games, curse sometimes, etc. Even though I feel guilty in the long run for it I still do it.
3) I know that saved people want to do gods will. They do not want to do anything to disobey god. IF they do something they shouldnt they feel extreme guilt for it. I feel guilt but is it just because I know I am doing wrong? Or is it because I am saved?

I have so many questions, feelings, concerns, fears. They have been bottled up inside of me for so long. Im confused and very scared at the same time.

I know that there is nothing I can do to become saved. I know that god has to do the work and save me. I just wish I knew at this time if I am saved or if I am not. I feel both ways and it really confuses me.

Jeff if you could explain any of this to me please do. Ive wanted to talk to you about it but you know im not really good at explaining how I feel. I know you probably cant tell me if I am saved or not but what are your thoughts?

Thanks love! :D
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Jul 02 2004 08:22am

Koyi Donita
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 Koyi Donita

For my post which I wish was earlier but I was too busy, I will post now.

The Awesome Power Of God's Word.

In Gen.1 God spoke and brought this amazing universe into being. The Earth alone is massive and it's complexity, it's mystery, it's beauty, and well balanced. The complexity of a leaf is truely baffling when studied closely with our science and it's just a leaf! Now think of the whole plant, to a field or some woods, to a whole forest, finally to the whole Plant Kingdom both known and unknown by us throughout the whole world. Think of small creatures, beautiful in their own way, complex with it's cells, tissues, organs, organ systems, behavior, instints, and it's knowledge and abilities to use offensive & defensive capabilities. Think of the whole Animal Kingdom from single celled organisms to all of the insects, fish, birds, and beasts both known and unknown. Think of the undiscovered space that is our oceans and how we know so little about them and what's in the deeps that we can't explore. Nature, weather, climates, and everything working with one another without totally destroying or creating unending chaos making up our great planet. The Earth is but a drop in the ocean that is space, the universe. How complex, beautiful, maintained, and balanced the universe is. One cannot truely begin to understand the greatness that creation is and The Creator, God, spoke and brought it all into being. His Words created it.

more to come when I have more time...... :(

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For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Rom. 1:16
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Rom. 10:17
I love my babyface. Smilykrazy is my baby and I love her.
...Swimming through the void we hear the Word, we lose ourselves but we find it all... System Of A Down. :D


Jul 02 2004 01:01am

Badger Hat
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 Badger Hat

I beleive...
Jesus is the Christ, the son of God, and by beleiving in him we can have life in his name.
He was both God and man, 100% God and 100% man, which is a hard thing for us to understand, but he came to Earth to die for us, so we could have eternal life with Him. Not eternal life in hell.
Wish I had more time, but for now that is all I have to say.

Badger

And about the verses, they come from The Bible, but sometimes they come from what we have memorized out of The Bible.
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Jul 01 2004 11:20pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I was actually going to ask the same thing as Jacen.

Also, another question:

How do you view Jesus Christ?

Do you believe him to be the son of God, the only son of God, or do you believe him to be a man who taught us to love each other, or one of the Angels who came down from Heaven?
(These are just three statemements I have heard)

And if so that you believe him to be
1) An Angel
2) A man
then how did he forgive sins?
It is said that the only God may forgive sins. Then how did he?

He explains by saying something along the lines of: "I am the son of God, and I do as my Father does. Thus I have not only the ability, but the right as well". (I think it's in Matthew)

However, I feel it was otherwise.
I feel that by saying 'Your sins are forgiven', your sins are lifted away from you, but also transferred to Jesus Christ's body. So when he was crucified later on, the sins were forgiven by God, so that he really died for our sins.
Somehow, this feels right to me.

I know he died for us, for our sins. So this really feels right to me.
I know this is highly discussable, but I think neither of us has the true answer to this question
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Jul 01 2004 10:54pm

Jacen Aratan
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This might be a bit off-topic, but I have a question concerning the things you write, and since it's basically about the bible, why not ask here..

When you do quotations, e.g., "And Jesus said etc etc" (Matt #:#), do you look it up in the bible itself, online, or do you just remember these things?


Been wondering about it for a long time...

Jul 01 2004 10:05pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

But for me, Christianity isn't about church. Yes church is a good place to go (providing the people and the teaching are in line with the Word), but its not what our lives should revolve around. Our lives should revolve around God and what he says in his Word. For me, that is the most important thing.

I think an 'e-church service' would probably not end up giving God the respect and praise a church service should. Forgive me for shooting down the idea, but I have a feeling it wouldn't work very well :(
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Jul 01 2004 09:31pm

Rainer
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Woah-nice idea. A long time ago I thought it'd be neat to do a "Church Service" on sunday mornings or something. You know with a special map and teamspeak and all to sing and whatnot. When I first thought about it not only was I not sure if it'd work but I didn't have enough time to put something like that together. And now-I still don't have enough time. Just throwing this idea up for anyone who might want to consider it (or something like it.)
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Jul 01 2004 09:18pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

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EDIT: actually it's also wrong to say that u believe IN the catholic apostolic church, it's a common mistake, you believe IN god, but you believe the church

Incorrect. Cathlolic means world-wide (all-inclusive). Apostolic means 'connected with the Apostles' teachings'. So what the Creed says is correct

Yes, I believe in God, but I also believe in an (meaning, believe that the church should be) catholic and apostolic church :)
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Jul 01 2004 08:31pm

Marcel Mandarijn
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 Marcel Mandarijn

well wot I'm tryin to say is that we've already *met* b4, but it's been a while since i've been seriously active... But still, I look forward to our continued conversations too ;)

Jul 01 2004 08:12pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

Great to meet you Marcel Mandarijn. I look forward to our continued discussions.

Oh and Koyi pwns....

:P

-DM-
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Jul 01 2004 07:47pm

Marcel Mandarijn
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 Marcel Mandarijn

Steven Curtis Chapman - The Invitation :D :P
That's right I hav nothing to add to DM's post, he's just right.

EDIT: actually it's also wrong to say that u believe IN the catholic apostolic church, it's a common mistake, you believe IN god, but you believe the church

EDIT2: btw, for those who might be wondering who I am: I'm just the terrible and annoying Maeglin :p, but don't worry, I've grown up.. a bit ;)

This comment was edited by Marcel Mandarijn on Jul 01 2004 07:51pm.

Jul 01 2004 07:47pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

Just thought I'd post the Nicene Creed. Pretty much sums up what the Bible says about beliefs :)

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e believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father.
Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven:
by the power of the Holy Spirit
he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
and was made man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.


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Jul 01 2004 07:42pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

I Believe in the Forgiveness of Sins

In what ways do Christians claim to believe in the Forgiveness of Sins? Do we mean that it doesn't matter what we do because everything is forgiven? Not in the least. God calls his people to life of holiness, not of sin. Romans Ch 6:1-2 says

"What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?"

No, but God is, nevertheless, a forgiving God.

God forgives the repentant sinner.

There is a sense in which this is one of the central truths of Christianity. Without it Christianity would be a religion of despair, not of hope. For the Bible very clearly teaches us that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3:23) It also says that "the wages of sin is death." (Rom. 6:23). Therefore, without forgiveness, there is no hope but death. Yet the glorious message of Christianity is that God is a forgiving God.

The Bible makes it clear that the way to gain forgiveness from God is through repentance. Repentance is basically a changing of the mind. To repent is to accept God's viewpoint of an action. If we say that our actions are not sin but just mistakes or personal weaknesses or just the way we are made then we leave no room for repentance and, therefore, no room for forgiveness. To repent is to say, "I recognize this action (or lack of action) as a sin and I apologize to God for it and determine, with God's help to turn away from doing this again." Such a prayer God hears and is always gracious to forgive the sinful action. "If we confess our sins he is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all iniquity."

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Jul 01 2004 07:40pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

I agree Marcel, however, the Prayer was intented for US, who DO live in time :) So that's where that thought was coming from :)
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Jul 01 2004 07:32pm

Marcel Mandarijn
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 Marcel Mandarijn

Seeing God is not bound to time as we are, it doesn't matter where in the prayer you ask for forgiveness. Anyway, I think it's wrong to say that God doesn't LISTEN to you before you have asked for forgiveness, the real thing is that u can't enter the kingdom of God without having been forgiven for your sins.

somewhat down in this thread I saw u guys talkin about God's love, that reminds me: Isaiah 54:10 - The mountains and hills may crumble, but my love for you will never end; I will keep forever my promise of peace. So says the lord who loves you

Jul 01 2004 07:07pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

Recently I've heard many Christians talk about and preach about that 'truth' that you must confess all un-confessed sins before God can talk to you, before you can be healed, etc. One thing I've never believed, in fact strongly opposed (as the Bible says the exact opposite). But the other day, my Dad and I were having one of our frequent Bible discussions, and he made a very interesting point...

If you have to confess your sin before God will heal you, why in the Lord's Prayer did Jesus only put 'and forgive us our sins' about three-quaters of the way through? Surely if God will only listen once all is confessed, surely that renders the first three quaters of the prayer redundant.

I thought that was a great observation - and have been thinking on it ever since (that was a few days ago).

I just wish people would READ the Bible and stop taking everything they hear, or 'fancy', as if it were the Gospel Truth (literally).
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Jul 01 2004 07:02pm

JamesF1
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 JamesF1

My favourite topic already :D
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Jul 01 2004 02:58pm

Squibit
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 Squibit

omnipotent = all powerful as in potent (a potent smell is a powerful one)

Omnicient = all knowing

omnipresent = present at all places (everywhere)

I never heard of omnibenevolent but yeah i guess its being ultimate at benevolence, which is as Javaguy ([[JAK]])) said :)
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Jul 01 2004 02:10pm

ioshee
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 ioshee

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,

2nd Timy 3:16

EDIT: Oh oh another one of my favorites:

The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.

2nd Peter 3:9
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Jul 01 2004 06:33am

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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 (Jedi)Obi-JK

Quote:

I used to wonder how can God love His children when we're so awful so much of the time. But then I thought about this one day when my own child was throwing a wild, monstrous, destructive tantrum, which did not in the slightest diminish my love for him. How could God not love us? Even when we're awful, we're His children.


That was awesome
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Jul 01 2004 05:51am

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

/me hugs Koyi for creating this. More to come from me certainly...

-DM-
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Jul 01 2004 05:43am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

On the spelling front... :D

Omniscient
Omnipotent (there's medications for that now)


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Jul 01 2004 05:35am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

Wow. I think this is a great idea.

And I always thought it was:

Omnicient - All Powerful
Omnipresent - Every where
Omnipitant - All Knowing

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Jul 01 2004 05:29am

JavaGuy
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 JavaGuy

Omnibenevolent. Benevolent means kind, loving, compassionate, beneficial. I've never heard it said to mean all-forgiving, though I'm certainly no theologian.

I do believe God can forgive anyone, but forgiveness is for those who are genuinely sorry. I doubt that Hitler would ever ask for forgiveness. I think he could have forgiveness, but he'd have to ask and be truly sincere about it, and I don't think he would.

I used to wonder how can God love His children when we're so awful so much of the time. But then I thought about this one day when my own child was throwing a wild, monstrous, destructive tantrum, which did not in the slightest diminish my love for him. How could God not love us? Even when we're awful, we're His children.


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Jul 01 2004 05:12am

(Jedi)Obi-JK
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 (Jedi)Obi-JK

Where in the bible does it say the three properties of God.

Omnicient
Omnipitent
Omnibelevent

(Im sure I massacred those spellings sry )

They translate to

All Knowing
All Powerfull
All Forgiving

( although maybe not in that order )

So is this acutally in the bible?
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