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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student  |
I kind of stole this idea from Koyi, so thanks to him for bringing me to this idea! (by stealing I mean: I saw his thread Bible Study and it came to me to do a Tolkien Study) In this thread, I'd like to discuss the literary works of Tolkien (The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion, Lost Tales (part 1 & 2), Left Tellings, ...). I want to talk about likes of the stories, and also some dislikes. Perhaps, when we come to a question, we can seek the answer together. Just, if you're planning to post something like: 'Tolkien sucks!' or whatever, please just ignore this forum. Thank you So start talking  When I've got some more time (and a connection that isn't 56k, then I'll post my opinions too  )_______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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My translation says (might be a bit different since I translated): he who arises in Might any other opinions/translations? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Melkor = "he, who appears with power" (or something around that.... sorry, but I'm not sure on how to translate it from Danish) |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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since it's a question for Vasper, I'm not gonna answer I just wanted to say that you're right Moridin, about the Sun and the Moon... Oh also, 'nother nice question What does 'Melkor' actually mean? oh btw, you asked how many Valar there were, technically, that's a wrong question, since a female Vala is a Valie _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Moridin - Student 
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Oooook Vas, here's a question for you! How many Valar are there? And who's the only one to not have a wife? _______________ Bros. with Janus, Leif, Motrec, Aiden, 3th, Zertz, Kenyon, and Vladarion. b00m! Banana Brother to Garos |
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Moridin - Student 
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The sun and the Moon are two Maia. (Think of angels) Lower than the Valar, they are their messengers, helpers, whatevers. Anywho, the Sun is a female Maia, and the moon is a male Maia, who loves her, and tries to get to her, but never makes it. (I think this is right anyway, all from memory, it may be vice versa) I'm pretty sure that the sun and the moon were made from the last bits of liquid from the two trees, after Ungoliant ate them. Last ditch effort at having some light. _______________ Bros. with Janus, Leif, Motrec, Aiden, 3th, Zertz, Kenyon, and Vladarion. b00m! Banana Brother to Garos This comment was edited by Moridin on Jul 09 2004 05:25pm. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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and another. In ancient Elf Lore, the Sun and the Moon are believed to be what? _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student 
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aye, he is only a minion to Morgoth. _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Sauron was the servant of Morgoth (meaning 'Dark Enemy' or something close to that), formerly known as Melkor, a Vala. Sauron is only a Maia. This comment was edited by Jacen Aratan on Jul 09 2004 02:32pm. |
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DJK - Student 
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Souron? if not i know that there ware someone ells before Souron. At that time souron were Apperentice. Right? |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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Another Question. What was the name of the "original" dark lord? _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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DJK - Student
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Yea i thought Frodo was gonna do that too. But when i readed Gollum got it ,i thought HE was gonna jump in, but them he fell in....sigh....oh well so much for my theory |
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Scythus Aratan - Student 
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Legolas was a different type of elf from Elrond: He is a wood elf from mirkwood, wheras Elrond was a high elf. It could have been Aragorn but legolas is not the one, probably would have been Elond again if tolkien had chosen that plotline. I read the books first, and I had some idea that Frodo was gonna jump in with it or something. _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart This comment was edited by Scythus Aratan on Jul 08 2004 11:16pm. |
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(Jedi)Obi-JK - Student 
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Anyone think it was going to end differently? I thought it would be one of those "time repeats itself" ends where Aragorn would have to throw the ring into Mt. Doom with Legolas at his side ( so think back to Isildur and Elrond ) I am fairly certain I formed this opinion after seeing the 1st movie ( I read the books but didnt start until after I had seen LOtR:FOtR ) So I am sure plenty of people had an ending in mind that was different let here em. _______________ Silent Bob (Kevin Smith): You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you. -Steve (Obi) |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Galadriel actually She was born in Valinor at the beginning of time, when Feänor was alive and kicking! Elrond was born in Middle-Earth in Gondolin, son to Eärendil, many years later ... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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ok...heres a question. 1 I know, just testin u guys. Who is older? Giladriel or Elrond? _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
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DJK - Student 
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I liked the movies............ |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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*bump* _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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ok, my last post came off a bit offensive, wasn't meant like that (I deleted it now) Anyways... anyone got something to discuss? _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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Senor Hat - Student 
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ive never read the books but i did love the movies. and i know they left out HEAPS im still in the middle of the hobbit and my dad bught me the Silmarillion, which i havent read _______________ I have beaten The Internet. The end guy was hard. |
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Vasper Ba'xian - Student
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I've read The Silmarillion The Hobbit all 3 of TLOTR books. and just purchased Lost Tales 1 and 2 hardback. If someone posts a real logical question maybe this can turn into a real discusion.  _______________ Brother to: Tamal, Kavar, J.D.,Jermia, Devlin, Ulic, Xiabara, Seij,Tarron Mib,>>>ROCK ON .My Spacescapes art page.My Everything Else art page. MY FAV. Jedi Are: Qui-Gon Jinn, Corran Horn, and Anakin Solo. Unofficial Master to Tamal. and Kavar. Founder of the Wuji Hundun Jian saber style. Proud owner of Tamal's 200th comment!//Proud owner of Refl3x's 300th comment!>>>Proud owner of Tyrant's 800th comment>>>Proud owner of Lucky's 170th comment>>>Proud owner of BDKawika's 444th comment>>>To except Existance is to except Reality.
This comment was edited by Vasper Ba'xian on Jul 07 2004 02:19pm. |
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Jippie Phoenix - Student 
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I think in general Gandalf know theres great strength in hobbits, every1 underestimates them but they turn out to be heros Bails right that bilbos half took thats why gandalf chose him to go on the adventure with dwarves Oh yeah Tolkein rulz _______________ This comment was edited by Jippie Phoenix on Jul 07 2004 02:10pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student
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JavaGuy: LOL. But not really He found the people, and they were peaceful, never raised arms against eachother. So unlike Men, Elves and Dwarves. He felt they were important to protect, which is why he always visited. That he chose Bilbo Baggins to go on the Adventure to Erebor wasn't coincidence either. He wanted part of a Took, and also something respectable. Since Tooks have a way of doing stupid things (Pippin in Moria) he chose half-Took, half-respectable-Baggins. So his choice was definately Bilbo, since his mother was daughter of the Old Took, and his father was Bungo Baggins. Half-Took, half-Baggins. The events that happened later, with Frodo, were just a nice coincidence out of all of it ... _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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JavaGuy - Student 
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Does anyone think Gandalf's fascination with hobbits is a little creepy?  _______________ My signature is only one line. You're welcome. |
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Scythus Aratan - Student
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Read the Hobbit plus the Classic Triology: Lord of the Rings. Read a little bit of the silmarillion, something about some dude who travels around meeting some sea person, and hes supposed to meet some guy, and he will see him only once and he walks past him, and there a load of gates if i remember correctly. lol. Scy _______________ Padawan to the great Jacen Aratan! <Setementor> Scythus is a genius! Claimer of the 5000th post in the Count thread [Solitude] scy rocks [Casual] good point scythus, you're really smart |
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JamesF1 - Student 
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Quote: Just, if you're planning to post something like: 'Tolkien sucks!' or whatever, please just ignore this forum. "Tolkien sucks" Sorry, couldn't resist _______________ Website |
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