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Aug 21 2025 04:07pm

Rogue
 - Student
Rogue
I Apologise in advance for my rudeness but WTF is going on at this Academy??? Everything has changed since I left. There is no respect and people are acting like little children who think they can do what they want and get away with it. Well this needs to stop right now. I know what your now thinking...."Stupid rogue doesnt know anything - hes only a dumbass journeyman". Well for all you stupid wiseass morons who like to screw things up out there...the real academy members who know me know that im a good person. On another note, for your information, I am an admin for my clan in SOF2 (Soldier of Fortune), DF2 (Delta Force 2) i beieve soon to be made one in NWN (Neverwinter Nights) and I am also The Head of a Branch in NWN. So that being said I think i know my stuff..I also used to run my own sqaud in F22 lightning 3 and before that i was at a high leadership possition in another. So I am confident that I can tell you now that this BS needs to be stopped. If it isnt then I dont think there will be many students at this academy - I think they will leave. This is an ACADEMY! Not a Playground. They key word is FUN if you want to learn like myself and many other real members that is excellent but this IS an ACADEMY and there are retards out there who are ruining it. Id also like to know why there are so many knights being made..is it because dicemaster keeps bugging everyone about needing more knights??? (sry dice - like i sai.excuse my rudeness) ....do you still have to be recommended??? and something needs to be done about all the random people who are let into the academy......That is all from me...and it should be enough to open your eyes. Goodbye and may the force be with you.

Rogue
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Feb 27 2003 11:15am

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

Ruuk - you're so cool!
:)

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Feb 27 2003 11:02am

Rogue
 - Student
 Rogue

I look forward to hearing it DJ my old friend:)
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Feb 26 2003 06:38pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

Yes, please: Rogue, re-read what most of these people have said. We're not against what you're saying, just that 1) it's getting taken care of by the proper authorities and done in a correct, honorable manner (although this might not have been the way you might have wanted it done, nor in the speed you may have wanted); and 2) it's the WAY you presented it which is causing most, if not all, of the disagreements you're witnessing below.

If I could ask, did you read the posts I suggested? They provide a perfect example of how a flaming situation could suddenly be extinguished, with logical discussion all around, if only the people involved would be more careful in their use of language. It worked. It's pretty easy to create misunderstandings when you can't see the body language and verbal pitch of the other person, which is why emotes and smileys are so important in on-line text conversations. They help - only help, I say - as substitutes for being there in RL. Please sit back and think about this for a little bit, and I'm sure you'll see that logical, well thought-out postings are the *best* way for addressing any serious issue here in the forums.

I understand and can appreciate your frustration... Trust me. I felt the same way the other day. And I think Eris, among others, would agree (see his post about leaving JA). But you can't let the rotten apples spoil the whole bunch. We'll take care of it in due time, but heck, you gotta understand that there are a lotta apples in that barrel to dig through! (<crunch> Mumph! <swallows> Hey, I found a really tasty one down here! Ya want a bite?!?) :D

-rh
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This comment was edited by Ruuk Haviser on Feb 26 2003 06:42pm.

Feb 26 2003 06:09pm

DJ Sith
 - Jedi Council
 DJ Sith

Allayouse: chill water. chill pill. combine. :)

I've got an idea about how to deal with the "morons" on the severs. Youll hear of it soon, and hopefully will agree with it. :)
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Feb 26 2003 05:57pm

Trebizond
 - Ex-Student
 Trebizond

Soft answer turneth away wrath, people :)

Peace
Treb :)
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Feb 26 2003 02:18pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Rogue I think it is you that misinterpretted our responses. We agree with you that there are a few things getting out of hand on the servers. You spend enough time in IRC and you will see that people causing problems is being brought up and an issue we want dealt with. You can't just go "Here are the people causing the problems, get rid of them and don't let anyone else into the academy unless they meet these strict criteria so we don't have anymore problems" Otherwise when someone gets pissed at another player for some reason they might decide to try and get them banned. Do you want to go on the servers in a bad mood one day and the next be banned because of what you did or might have looked like you were doing on that day? You can't right wrongs by calling people a bunch of morons even though they might be morons and probably are. This isn't a clan so you might have experience in administrating clans, this place is much looser than any clan I've seen. You need to realize that just because we don't see things exactly the same way as you, doesn't mean we think you're wrong. Look at what Yub Yub said. The stuff you are so upset about just started in the last week. That means there hasn't really been enough time to put out the flames at the source. Also Bubu AGREED with you at the start, he just didn't like the way you went about voicing your opinion. I don't think rudeness is ever really justified. We don't ignore the troublemakers we just don't let them get in the way of our fun. If you spend all your time worrying about people screwing around and causing havoc, you'll miss the fun and become bitter and no one will want to have fun with you.
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Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Feb 26 2003 01:05pm

Rogue
 - Student
 Rogue

Well................i am quite frankly lost for words. I dont have alot to say because now i cannot be bothered to do anything.....Ive tried to start us up righting wrongs and its been thrown bak in my face....Thanks Yub Yub it appears you are the nly one who recognises my point. AND MR.BUBU if you cared about the academy the same way i do then you will find that my "rudeness" was justified. I meant nothing against you personally you misenterperated my post. good day to you all and good luck trying to ignore the fools in our servers.

Rogue
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Feb 26 2003 12:35pm

Battlin' Billy
 - Student
 Battlin' Billy

I've only been here like a month, but I can only recall 1 really serious troublemaker(yes, him). But, being the 2nd senior member of the Academy, to the best of my knowledge, I've learned a few things in RL. There will be people like that EVERYWHERE! Whether its in a book club or whatever. I usually just keep my distance from them. Once they've done their "damage", they usually go away by themselves. My advice would be to just hang with the "regulars" that come here to have fun. That goes for RL too! Be cordial but keep your distance.
My 2¢
:)

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Feb 26 2003 07:15am

[JAS]GrymOne
 - Student
 [JAS]GrymOne

Fear..Anger...Pride...He is strong with the darkside....

Grym


Feb 26 2003 02:17am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

well, first, thank you for the pointless insults and accusations, rogue. the way you put things... it simply makes me smile in admiration. (i hope you can pick out the heavy sarcasm)

and thanks people below me for agreeing with me.

i don't know how active you are in here, rogue, but as you can probably see, i think you can say that i am VERY active in the JA. you have no idea how deep my participation goes in reducing the recent wave of trouble. so please, think twice before you say anything.

your rudeness is NOT justified. go ahead be rude with people who are rude to you. but what did i do? did i hurt you in any way? am i the root of all evil and the cause for this "trouble-wave"?

think about it, really...

and now if you'll excuse me i have to go sit on my arse.
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This comment was edited by Bubu on Feb 26 2003 02:22am.

Feb 25 2003 06:17pm

Ruuk Haviser
 - Retired
 Ruuk Haviser

Rogue - don't be mad people weren't commenting before. Heck, I didn't get here until right now. I gotta try to read a whole bunch of these posts, for heavens sake. Oh, yeah, and I have to go to work. :) So ease up.

Aeth- you crack me up. I'm sitting here laughing at the mental image of C-3PO saying "WE'RE DOOMED!" I'm glad you and many others explained that things come in waves. I've been frustrated myself, and am glad to know that you guys have the experience to take these things as they come. I will find peace within myself and carry on...

Rogue, again - We recently had a huge flame situation going on between Pepsi and other members of the Academy. It was due to misunderstandings and strong word choices, but I believe things are better now. Read some of those posts and see how things turned out, and you'll observe that using abusive language and denigrading people and their positions - although you apologize in advance - is not the way to go about making things better. Bubu is right. People will listen to you better if you provide a reasoned, well thought out argument. Please try to do this next time, k? K. :)

-rh
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Feb 25 2003 04:31pm

Kueller
 - Student
 Kueller

I totally agree with buzz. We are not elite people, we run an academy where everybody gets in. That being the way we let people in, there is more respect for our Academy for not only letting really good players in. HELLOW, jedi ACADEMY, do we have to create sollicetors ranks to see to it that all people who come in behave. I believe the bad behaviour in this academy is practically non-existent, and don't call it "in the old days there was... " because i'm in here for a really long time, 7 months, and i'm happy with this place. The reason why we have so man Knights is because you have to have more people who you KNOW you can trust entirely. And the Knights are chosen with skill, there is not a single one of them tht is bad. Last, Buzz, you have really good tastes on which books to read.:P
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Feb 25 2003 04:29pm

Aeth S'kray
 - Retired
 Aeth S'kray

Well Rouge... I've been here quiet long *smiles at Buzz* and I can tell you some things:
As it was mentioned earlier there are always some "waves". During the top of a wave there is often trouble and misbehaviour. It just occurs, maybe with a new bunch of students, maybe because something happened... who knows. It's just like that. And WHEN there is havoc and WHEN everyone goes around like crazy there are always some posts like this. I think I even made of of theese too when I was young :o But dude, trust me, it will pass. With going around and shouting "Uuuh, everything is bad, uuuh, we all gonna die" it's made only worse :D

Relax buddy. It will become calm again soon. Live is too short to waste it with being angry :P

Don't get me wrong, I take you serious. Almost every older academy member experienced at least once what you feel like. Trust me, after the third hype of a "we're doomed"-wave you gonna be so cool that you could shit ice cubes!

Allright, I'm getting offtopic. IF you have a REAL thing you worry about, like a SPECIFIC person annyoed you several days, feel free to contact me and I will have a look at it. Ok? :)

-Peace out

P.S.
Btw, the new knights ARE here to keep the peace. So why do you complain? ;) They all have to be nominated by three JATs, don't worry. Beside, we just have two rather new knights. My dear old friend Arcuss and the sexy jedi-lady Chicka. Where's the problem ;)
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Feb 25 2003 04:16pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Here's a quote DJ made on the types of people they don't let into the academy

"The only people we really don't allow in are the ones who declare they want to 0wn all of us or whatever in their application."

That leaves it pretty open to most people you know. And that good. You don't really want too strict of a process to let people into the academy. We'd probably start getting looked at like a bunch of elite stuck ups. So you will have people joining the academy who say in their application "oh I just love how it looks at your place i'd love to become a better player and learn more." Then when they get in they throw off the goody two shoes act and become "Alright time to wreak havoc and own all the wimps here" Stuff like that happens you know.

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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Feb 25 2003 03:14pm

Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]
 - Ex-Student
 Masterw/AMohawk[JAP]

Erm, Rogue buddy.... I do agree that there are people here who are basically flaming idiots, but man I don't know how things were when you left. Maybe it's just we're more comfortable with eachother now? Maybe a stronger community from the inside out... that's why the only people who really cause problems are people who don't motivate themselves to be "included", and newer people.

As far as what you said about admitting random people into the academy... how do you suspect we decide if they are "worthy" of this oh-so-sacred place? Are you gonna give them a test? You don't know them personally, and to shut the bad people out would be to blindly shut out people who could become great members here someday.

btw YubYub, give him a break, he's only 12.
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This comment was edited by Masterw/AMohawk[JAP] on Feb 25 2003 03:16pm.

Feb 25 2003 03:11pm

YubYub
 - Student
 YubYub

Zigster, two words. comma and fullstop.

Feb 25 2003 02:58pm

Drako
 - Ex-Student
 Drako

you know there are only a couple of guys who do what ever they want here and try and get away with it. and we are trying to get them to stop doing that and bubu does deserve to be a knight. and you should stop calling people stupid wiseasses and morons. and we have lives we cant always be on here fixing every little thing and i think the guys running it are doing a pretty good job.
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This comment was edited by Drako on Feb 25 2003 03:18pm.

Feb 25 2003 02:40pm

ioshee
 - Student
 ioshee

Rogue, Nobody is coming against you, but your attitude is not very good. You don’t need to get angry about anything. Anger is the path to the dark side.

Bubu DOES deserve to be a Knight.
Best Knight EVER *said with voice of the comic book nerd from The Simpsons*

Buzz Vader, You rock man. Keep on posting the good stuff.
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Feb 25 2003 02:20pm

Mistral
 - Ex-Student
 Mistral

:eek:Rogue, the day I start taking things as seriously as you is the day I stop playing video games. Relax guy. Take a deep breath, exhale and have a think about the real world beyond your door, just waiting to be explored:P.
As you said, the Academy is supposed to be fun as well as a place to learn. I'm new here and fully respect the rules of the Academy and I'm happy to have found somewhere to play JK2 with honour. I'm sure other new players feel the same and if not they'll learn.
Basically my fear is that negative comments like yours could potentially put off new recruits.
New guys feel intimidated enough. I agree with Fizz, maybe posting a set of guidelines as you see them would be more constructive.
Please don't be offended by anything I've written, its not meant that way.

Just chill out man:cool:

Feb 25 2003 12:31pm

Buzz
 - Student
 Buzz

Rogue unfortunately you're wrong. A lot of people do care about what is going on at the academy. There are comments all over the place about altercations on the servers. People causing trouble and not following the rules. You aren't the only one concerned about it. I think you need to realize something though. This happens all the time. Every group of new students has its batch of brats and troublemakers. You've got to give them the opportunity to shape up as well. You can't just kick them out after one mistake. It seems about once every three months someone starts to complain about the new students that are coming in are causing all this trouble. You have to give the staff here the time to figure out who is doing it and figure out if they are going to constantly cause trouble or adapt to the academy. You just got back at a time that the troublemakers are showing up. Give it time man. Don't get all pissed because no one commented. Just because no one said anything doesn't mean you're being ignored, they just don't have anything further to add
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When you are going through Hell, keep going.
-Sir Winston Churchill.

Those who seek power and control of others, no matter the level, no matter the intentions, should never be given it.


Feb 25 2003 12:14pm

Rogue
 - Student
 Rogue

well I must say im very very dissapointed that there were what 3 replies to this and bubu yours was worse that having none as a Knight you of all people should care about what i said. The Way I see it is you dont quite have the paitience....no wait.....you cant b arsed to do anything about it well im sorry for you but if you dont think something is wrong you must be a lil on the blind side and if you are not prepared to do anything about it then you probarbly shouldnt be a knight. My rudeness was justified and im outraged that nobody wants to know about the problem in the academy. good day
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Feb 24 2003 04:00am

YubYub
 - Student
 YubYub

If it makes you feel any better, rogue, i agree with you on the idiots point. There have been a few morons running around recently.

The most recent oone i saw: I was in the KS server a day or so ago. There was a JAK there too. Basically, someone kept running around the academt,pacing trip mines everywhere. Later on there was someone just going around, using mind trick and blasting random people!

I'm not going to name names because i dont waant to start a massive forum fight.

I must also point out that this behaviour has only started in the last week or so. I don't understand why either? Did a troop of manic troublemakers get membership on the same day or something?

Anyway, thats all. Sorry if i pissed anyone off but i feel how i feel. And i feel that rogue and i are on the same page (figuratively, not just on this forum)

This comment was edited by YubYub on Feb 24 2003 04:01am.

Feb 24 2003 03:58am

Fizz of Belouve
 - Student
 Fizz of Belouve

I see ur profile ID is quite low, os u might know ur deal. As I am still rather new around here, I get your point, but some illustrating examples of "do's" and "Don'ts" (in your opinion) would be greatly appreciated by myself.
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Feb 24 2003 03:56am

Bubu
 - Hubbub
 Bubu

i'm glad you "apologized in advance for your rudeness"...

seriously, acting maturely does not include calling people "stupid wiseass morons" and "retards".

i am not disagreeing with you, i am just saying you should refrain from insulting others and using foul language. believe me, people will listen better.
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