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Nov 11 2004 09:41pm

solitude
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solitude
I've recently noticed that whenever an unusual, or even normal (well, one thats happenbefore:P), problem crops up, people are accused of using an illegal copy. Illegal copies can function as perfectly as originals, but this is not the point im trying to make. I so not believe it is right to accuse people of this without SOME kind of reasoned justification. JA is a game, with a serverside mod and run and made by humans, no patches have been recently released. There are going to be errors and bugs, saying that 'its warez' or the like wont help solve anyones problems. if they have a warez copy, they would also probably know of the dangers of using it.
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Nov 20 2004 05:20pm

Tallepyon
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 Tallepyon

50% of the time someone i dont know comes on irc for help in a jk3 error they have a pirated game. I dont mean it as insult when i ask. I have gone through helping people for a long period of time then it would be in vain because there game was pirated. I just do it so the pirates dont get help from me.

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Nov 20 2004 02:30pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

that wasnt the reason why i started the thread. it was aimed at saying that errors arnt caused always caused by warez, sometimes its the bugged game.

plus with regard to prices, JA can be found for £10 in teh UK and is coming out on budget soon (i think) now who honestly cannot afford that?
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Nov 20 2004 02:26pm

ozzcoz
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 ozzcoz

Piracy is theft. You don't have the right ot tell a company what it can charge for it's product. Thats part of living in a free society. If you don't like the price or can't afford it, then don't buy it. If you go into a computer store and don't like the price the store charges for a computer, that doesn't mean you can just steal it. It is the same with software, music, anything for that matter.

And I don't think this is the proper place for you to be discussing wares (if there is any such place). Especially given the negative attention that could be brought upon our community by you expressing such opinions. So please, for the rest of us, stop this discussion in the forums. Thank you.
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Nov 20 2004 02:24pm

solitude
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 solitude

lol, if that was the case, the thread would be locked :P
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Nov 20 2004 02:19pm

Jake Kainite
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Bah you got my hopes up with the thread title, thought we were all in for some free stuff :D
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Nov 20 2004 02:09pm

solitude
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 solitude

look at the price of gameboy and other cartridge games which cant be downloaded or pirated (by the home user) these are caused by greed, not a need to make up or piracy
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Nov 20 2004 01:13pm

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:alliance:Doubtful...Both gaming and music companies are EXTREMELY greedy...Need I remind anyone of the fact that cd's even back before napster would run 15-20$? And look at Nintendo for crying out loud lol...I remember when mario brothers 3 was 49.96 at wal*mart!:D:alliance:
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Nov 20 2004 01:10pm

Jacen Aratan
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Eh... not even a third of the game copies around are illegal, I'd estimate.

Nov 20 2004 12:37pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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:alliance:Eh, legal or illegal copies...doesnt really matter now...there wouldnt be so many illegal copies going around if companies like Lucasarts wouldnt charge so much for a video game....imo...:alliance:

but they wouldn't charge such high prices if there was no downloading

Think about it
for every copy of the game that's sold, they need to get the double (almost) out of it, since 1/2 persons will probably just buy the game :)
Stop downloading, and you'll see the prices drop a bit... :P
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Nov 20 2004 12:28pm

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:alliance:Eh, legal or illegal copies...doesnt really matter now...there wouldnt be so many illegal copies going around if companies like Lucasarts wouldnt charge so much for a video game....imo...:alliance:
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Nov 13 2004 01:22pm

solitude
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 solitude

ah thanks, thats explains why ppl thought warez was used at the time. anyway, soory if i offended anyonem but i dont think that theres any reason why this would turn into a warez discussion or flame war.
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Nov 12 2004 06:12pm

Darkwood
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 Darkwood

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Because Invalid Game Folder means it's the version that was out on the internet before the retail was released. I believe I read it on Raven's site. (...)

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this is what the raven people said about "invalid game folder" once the game was out. many had the error back then because of the leaked beta, and leaked beta servers..

still, I believe you when you say you have a legal version.. jkja hasn't been patched since 1.01 and bugs happen ^^ (got the invalid game folder error myself once (with my legal version). it worked again after I reinstalled it, I remember, but it might just have been some pk3 files. I dunno)
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Nov 12 2004 05:27am

Gradius
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 Gradius

I'm more worried about warez discussion taking place than a flame war breaking out. But I agree, we should let this thread go for now. :)
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Nov 12 2004 04:34am

Furi0us
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 Furi0us

Ok, I think it's cool when people express their opinions, but this sort of topic can turn into a flame war real quick. I think we should just let it go.
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Nov 12 2004 03:38am

Plo Koon
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 Plo Koon

Yep downloading music,movies,or games without paying except when its a demo or something thats authorized to be free is like walking into a store and stealing a copy.
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Nov 12 2004 12:49am

solitude
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 solitude

hey, im not trying to offend anyone or rebuke anyone here. i was just posting a general gripe about how whenever there are probs with th e game, ppl blame pirate copies first thing before considering anything else.
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Nov 12 2004 12:20am

Squibit
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 Squibit

he asked if anyone knew what might be causing the error, i made a suggestion, i didnt say You have a coppied CD, i said do you have....

He could just say no and i'd be like, ok sure no probs

alternatively he could think, ah thanks squib know i know whats wrong
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Nov 11 2004 11:52pm

solitude
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 solitude

i gotta agree that warez can be the cause, but it is not the only cause,ill ill try to think of something for the parse one, but ive nnever had it before.

plus, we all know the the big M$ is to blame for it :D
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Nov 11 2004 11:43pm

solitude
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 solitude

well, i cant say to the cl_parse one, but i have a legal copy and at times i get the illegal folder one. this if often after installing mods or weird pk3s tho. wwhat really bugged be was when people tagged on warez because of, if i remember right, could nt connect to server, or illegal pk3s detected, which happens to us all.
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Nov 11 2004 10:54pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

ROFL
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Nov 11 2004 10:36pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

What? Why is everyone looking at me? I have a legal copy!
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Nov 11 2004 10:23pm

DaRtH-MoBiLiTy
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 DaRtH-MoBiLiTy

I agree with Aratan, if someone comes on siteing those errors man, we all know just wth is going on there. /me lubs GRAAAAAAAAADIUS, but is not concerned with trying to hold respect and or JA Etiquitte for a h4x0r, or n00b h4xor at that....

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Nov 11 2004 10:13pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

Although I agree with the "Invalid Game Folder," I'm pretty sure I've had the "cl_ParsePacketEntities" error before. I'm not 100% positive on that though. But I believe I solved it by removing a pk3 that had custom npcs in it. This was a long time ago, so my memory could be serving me wrong. I'd take Jacen and Orion's word for it. :)
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Nov 11 2004 10:07pm

Orion
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 Orion

The packet error can also be caused by using a no-cd crack, trust me i know i tried. But I agree with aratan. THose two errors have a track record with an illegally early leaked version of the game.
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Nov 11 2004 09:47pm

Jacen Aratan
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Because Invalid Game Folder means it's the version that was out on the internet before the retail was released. I believe I read it on Raven's site.

Invalid Game Folder and cl_ParsePacketEntities are the only two warez-related errors I know of (though ParsePacketEntities could just be someone who bought the game, but is using no cd crack... nevertheless, it's still warez-related), and therefore, I'll continue to accuse people who receive those errors. And only those errors.


I only go for those two errors, not anyothers. So I'm sorry, but the whole "whenever someone gets an error, people say warez" doesn't hold water... those two are known warez errors.

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