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leaving bots on the server
Jan 22 2005 01:14am

MOTREC
 - Student
MOTREC
this has become a nuisance again. leaving npc's on the home server. if you spawn them, you kill them. if you are caught doing this, i will lock down all the servers. thank you for you cooperation in this matter.


thank you all.
MOTREC

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Jan 31 2005 02:21am

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

I ran into something similar... except it looked like a crazy Luke and kept grip-laming me. :P
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This comment was edited by tarpman on Jan 31 2005 02:22am.

Jan 30 2005 11:34pm

MOTREC
 - Student
 MOTREC

n00b you just made my fps go in the toilet. thanx. as far as that bot goes....deal with him, he is your master after all.

Jan 30 2005 07:41pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

it was spamming rollstabs :P
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Jan 30 2005 07:37pm

n00b
 - Student
 n00b

Someone left a bot on the server that looks very much like a crazy Darth Vader. All it does is spam buzz-saw moves over and over again. I think someone called it MO something. Please remove this bot cause its hogging all my bandwidth!
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Jan 29 2005 06:16pm

Tigerclaw
 - Student
 Tigerclaw

Yeah okay guys/gals. I know now what to do, (I didn't at the time). At least I'm not the only one that this has happened to. It won't happen again from me that's for sure. Whatever it takes, I'll clean up my own messes .........Promise!
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Jan 24 2005 12:00am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Yeah, if they don't run out at you automatically, run up and use force pull or grip them out. And if you don't make it in time, and you feel that you won't be able to take on 2 of them after you open the door, ask someone else on the server for assistance. Just use your head is all. :)
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Jan 23 2005 10:18pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Virty said that he had a script which got them to walk out of their doors, but didn't get the script into it or something. But anyway, if you can't get them out, use force pull. :)

But anyways, I hope this passes sometime soon. It'd suck having it happen all the time. :(

Jan 23 2005 10:02pm

The Dragon Reborn
 - Student
 The Dragon Reborn

It IS a pain when they don't come out and get locked behind the door. I know, it's happened to me. Can't you fix it?
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Jan 23 2005 09:57pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Well, the thing is, we shouldn't have to have a blocknpc thing. Everyone should know not to release NPCs from the room. Although it's not directly stated in the rules, it's still a rule. People are expected to use common sense with this. So, the NPC rooms will still be locked down until people can respect this. I appologize for those of you who have to suffer because your peers can't use their heads. But hopefully this will let them know that it's not something that we will tolerate.
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- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Jan 23 2005 08:59pm

tarpman
 - The Tarped Avenger
 tarpman

Quote:
Oooops sorry guys. Ithink I was guilty of something like this last night. I spawned an npc on wireplay, (far left door) and it didn't come out after me. I went back to the control pad thingy, and pressed it again. When the door opened for the second time, there were TWO behind the door. Only ONE came out! I killed it eventually, (after it killed me once) and left the room. I apologise to the next person who spawned an npc from that far left ?bunker. It won't happen again, I promise. :(

I can assure you however, I didn't let one run loose!

I'm fairly sure I was the next person who tried to spawn one on the left. NP though, I'm so 1337 it really doesn't matter. :P:D

I've been a fan of the BlockNPC idea since the first map with spawners was released (academy_beta_2... I think). Of course there's no point adding it now, but it's definitely something to have on the to-do list for the next version. As far as I know, it doesn't affect server FPS significantly (about the same as any other collision-detection instance, like a wall, just with an added check for who's touching it).

P.S.: is the lockdown still on? too lazy to go on and check :P
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Jan 23 2005 12:28pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

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The thing is guys, the NPC blocking shader is not very effective, cannot be applied to the map now (unless you want to convince everybody to download the 20+ MB again) and doesn't fix one major problem that the NPCs cause: every NPC uses precious processing power.

Oh I agree, don't get me wrong here. I know it won't solve the problem, but it will keep the NPC's from roaming around like this.

Perhaps a script in JAR that can be activated at wish, that when the server is empty, all NPC's are automatically killed?

(I'm just making suggestions here, even though they won't solve the problem completely)
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Jan 23 2005 05:33am

ozzcoz
 - Cosplay Nerd
 ozzcoz

The thing is guys, the NPC blocking shader is not very effective, cannot be applied to the map now (unless you want to convince everybody to download the 20+ MB again) and doesn't fix one major problem that the NPCs cause: every NPC uses precious processing power. The rules say not to leave them, people shouldn't be leaving them, and if people can't live up to this simple expectation everyone will lose the privelige of having access to them on the servers.
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Jan 22 2005 10:40pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Well, if it can't be put in for any reason, then people should know not to do it anyway. I guess it helps people to learn not to do stuff like that... :cool:

Jan 22 2005 10:20pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

Quote:
I like the BlockNPC idea a lot.


but it might affect the FPS-rating, because there is a script behind it
I'm not sure, but this could be the reason Virtue never applied it.
I'll ask Virtue, unless he catches this post before I catch him :D
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This comment was edited by Bail Hope of Belouve on Jan 22 2005 10:20pm.

Jan 22 2005 10:15pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

I like the BlockNPC idea a lot.

Jan 22 2005 09:22pm

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

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But I was wondering though, since NPC's are supposed to stay in the NPC-area, can't Virtue put a BlockNPC-brush against the door, so they can't go through, while players can?

Or maybe a push button lock on the door, simmilar to the JAK+ room but for everyone. Wont stop people spawning multiple bots but will at least contain them.:D
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Jan 22 2005 08:27pm

solitude
 - Jedi Council
 solitude

most of the time i only frequent wireplay, and in all honesty i have had very few incidents of this sort.

mines a couple of times, and 2 npcs coming out of the doors at a time, but never any escaped roaming npcs (when the server sint populated)
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Jan 22 2005 08:08pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

*Beats Tigerclaw with a broom* :D
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Jan 22 2005 08:00pm

Tigerclaw
 - Student
 Tigerclaw

Oooops sorry guys. Ithink I was guilty of something like this last night. I spawned an npc on wireplay, (far left door) and it didn't come out after me. I went back to the control pad thingy, and pressed it again. When the door opened for the second time, there were TWO behind the door. Only ONE came out! I killed it eventually, (after it killed me once) and left the room. I apologise to the next person who spawned an npc from that far left ?bunker. It won't happen again, I promise. :(

I can assure you however, I didn't let one run loose!
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Geriatric single User, with a touch of Staff now and again. Influenced by Dash Starlight, Jaina. Janus, and Gradius in staff. And in yellow stance. Jaina D'Kana, who really helped me when I first joined the Academy and Jaiko D'Kana, who's classes I took in the begining. Proud owner of _Muro_'s 400th ACK! comment. Avatar by the one and only Majno . Padawan to Dash Starlight

This comment was edited by Tigerclaw on Jan 22 2005 08:01pm.

Jan 22 2005 05:24pm

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Okay, I just finished locking down the NPC rooms on all servers. Obviously they are being abused and even after this post was made some people don't take it into consideration. So, for now, they will be locked.
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- Proud padawan of Kueller.
- We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything
- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
- "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider


Jan 22 2005 04:31pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Wow, today I visited both Home and Classes. On each server, I found an NPC just stood there in the NPC room. There was no one on Classes, and I didn't get much from the people on Home. These encounters are just becoming so frequent...

Jan 22 2005 02:33pm

BlaX
 - Student
 BlaX

i agree this always happens to me. I go on Wireplay and theres bots running wild.
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Jan 22 2005 02:22pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
 - Student
 Bail Hope of Belouve

I agree with this.
Even I (who isn't very active) saw NPC's running loose

But I was wondering though, since NPC's are supposed to stay in the NPC-area, can't Virtue put a BlockNPC-brush against the door, so they can't go through, while players can?
(It could be that Virtue hasn't done this for a reason, but you never know :))
Of course it won't solve the problem completely, but it will keep NPC's from running loose.

Anyway, I hope nothing gets locked down again, because I actually warm up against a few NPC's each time :P
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Jan 22 2005 02:00pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Indeed and agreed.

Jan 22 2005 01:19pm

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

Twice this week I've been attacked by npc's as I entered the room, I know I'm not the only one either.
This is getting out of hand as is leaving mines out and not to mention laming in the fort. Just because your in the fort it's not an invitation for an instant free for all.:)
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