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leaving bots on the server
Jan 22 2005 01:14am

MOTREC
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MOTREC
this has become a nuisance again. leaving npc's on the home server. if you spawn them, you kill them. if you are caught doing this, i will lock down all the servers. thank you for you cooperation in this matter.


thank you all.
MOTREC

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Jan 23 2005 12:28pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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The thing is guys, the NPC blocking shader is not very effective, cannot be applied to the map now (unless you want to convince everybody to download the 20+ MB again) and doesn't fix one major problem that the NPCs cause: every NPC uses precious processing power.

Oh I agree, don't get me wrong here. I know it won't solve the problem, but it will keep the NPC's from roaming around like this.

Perhaps a script in JAR that can be activated at wish, that when the server is empty, all NPC's are automatically killed?

(I'm just making suggestions here, even though they won't solve the problem completely)
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Jan 23 2005 05:33am

ozzcoz
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 ozzcoz

The thing is guys, the NPC blocking shader is not very effective, cannot be applied to the map now (unless you want to convince everybody to download the 20+ MB again) and doesn't fix one major problem that the NPCs cause: every NPC uses precious processing power. The rules say not to leave them, people shouldn't be leaving them, and if people can't live up to this simple expectation everyone will lose the privelige of having access to them on the servers.
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Jan 22 2005 10:40pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Well, if it can't be put in for any reason, then people should know not to do it anyway. I guess it helps people to learn not to do stuff like that... :cool:

Jan 22 2005 10:20pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

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I like the BlockNPC idea a lot.


but it might affect the FPS-rating, because there is a script behind it
I'm not sure, but this could be the reason Virtue never applied it.
I'll ask Virtue, unless he catches this post before I catch him :D
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Jan 22 2005 10:15pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

I like the BlockNPC idea a lot.

Jan 22 2005 09:22pm

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

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But I was wondering though, since NPC's are supposed to stay in the NPC-area, can't Virtue put a BlockNPC-brush against the door, so they can't go through, while players can?

Or maybe a push button lock on the door, simmilar to the JAK+ room but for everyone. Wont stop people spawning multiple bots but will at least contain them.:D
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Jan 22 2005 08:27pm

solitude
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 solitude

most of the time i only frequent wireplay, and in all honesty i have had very few incidents of this sort.

mines a couple of times, and 2 npcs coming out of the doors at a time, but never any escaped roaming npcs (when the server sint populated)
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Jan 22 2005 08:08pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

*Beats Tigerclaw with a broom* :D
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Jan 22 2005 08:00pm

Tigerclaw
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 Tigerclaw

Oooops sorry guys. Ithink I was guilty of something like this last night. I spawned an npc on wireplay, (far left door) and it didn't come out after me. I went back to the control pad thingy, and pressed it again. When the door opened for the second time, there were TWO behind the door. Only ONE came out! I killed it eventually, (after it killed me once) and left the room. I apologise to the next person who spawned an npc from that far left ?bunker. It won't happen again, I promise. :(

I can assure you however, I didn't let one run loose!
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Jan 22 2005 05:24pm

Gradius
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 Gradius

Okay, I just finished locking down the NPC rooms on all servers. Obviously they are being abused and even after this post was made some people don't take it into consideration. So, for now, they will be locked.
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Jan 22 2005 04:31pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Wow, today I visited both Home and Classes. On each server, I found an NPC just stood there in the NPC room. There was no one on Classes, and I didn't get much from the people on Home. These encounters are just becoming so frequent...

Jan 22 2005 02:33pm

BlaX
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 BlaX

i agree this always happens to me. I go on Wireplay and theres bots running wild.
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Jan 22 2005 02:22pm

Bail Hope of Belouve
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 Bail Hope of Belouve

I agree with this.
Even I (who isn't very active) saw NPC's running loose

But I was wondering though, since NPC's are supposed to stay in the NPC-area, can't Virtue put a BlockNPC-brush against the door, so they can't go through, while players can?
(It could be that Virtue hasn't done this for a reason, but you never know :))
Of course it won't solve the problem completely, but it will keep NPC's from running loose.

Anyway, I hope nothing gets locked down again, because I actually warm up against a few NPC's each time :P
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Jan 22 2005 02:00pm

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Indeed and agreed.

Jan 22 2005 01:19pm

Jade Jedi
 - Retired
 Jade Jedi

Twice this week I've been attacked by npc's as I entered the room, I know I'm not the only one either.
This is getting out of hand as is leaving mines out and not to mention laming in the fort. Just because your in the fort it's not an invitation for an instant free for all.:)
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Jan 22 2005 10:41am

Henkes
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 Henkes

Agreed, if you spawn an npc, make sure it's taken care off!
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Jan 22 2005 09:59am

D@mned ++
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 D@mned ++

aye, entering the servers to clean it from NPC's has become a full time job.:eek:
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Jan 22 2005 08:54am

Ashyr
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 Ashyr

Yeah, I've had to kill a few strays too.

If you have trouble killing them, remember: It's ok to be cheap and lame the crap out of them. Do whatever it takes to finish them when you're done.

Well......don't go too crazy...
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Jan 22 2005 08:51am

Wicek
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 Wicek

And sometimes they run to Vlads memorial too :o

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Jan 22 2005 07:02am

Setementor
 - Jedi Master
 Setementor

Well, today I was on a server...can't remember if it was Home or Wireplay, but there were a lot of people spawning NPCs. Everytime I saw one spawned, two came out of the door, but I left the server before everyone had finished, so I dunno if they were all killed off.

But recently, I have seen a big increase in the number of times I've seen NPCs running around. It's something like...every week. So yeah, it's gotta be annoying. :(

Jan 22 2005 04:46am

Rinzler
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 Rinzler

yeah, same :) unless theres someone in the room fighting it
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Jan 22 2005 04:26am

IoNiFy
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 IoNiFy

Same, but If I find one I kill it no matter... one was in the abr the otehr day O_O
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Jan 22 2005 03:46am

Rinzler
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 Rinzler

yeah i've often walked into the npc room for health/shields or whatever and seen stray bots and bots still in their spawn rooms. i ask who was last in npc room and no one answers. please dont mistreat the facilities guys.
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Jan 22 2005 02:04am

Gradius
 - Ex-Student
 Gradius

Agreed. This is somewhat of a big issue we've had laltely. I've even seen NPCs running around Vlad's memorial, along with others just running around the courtyard and other places. Most of you remember the big lockdown a few months ago I'm sure, where we locked the NPC rooms, fortress, and the memorial due to complete abuse of them. It can and will happen again if this is kept up.

So, even if you aren't the one who spawned these NPCs or whatnot, do your best to kill them. If there are too many or if they are running around the memorial, come to IRC and get a JAT to hop on the server and do an npckillall. Don't just let it go. And if you see someone who is letting them out of the NPC complex, inform them they are breaking the rules and ask them nicely to kill it, and if you have to, assist them. If you see them doing it again, take screenshots and come to a JAK+. Thank you. :)
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- <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words!
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Jan 22 2005 01:56am

Garos
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 Garos

Damn.. peopl! Who.. do.. things!

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