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Carda Jowol - Student  |
I need to come out and asked this cus, in the past 5 months I seen it more and more, increase of the amount of people Glitching in JA, I know I can guess to the amount of people thinking so? why can't then? theres no rule saying they can't? Ya I know I read the rules and all, I'm just having some questions about things, glitching in general is probably what 60%+ used in JA community, talking the whole game. I'm not a glitcher, I don't teach glitching, infact I don't like the fact that people can take advantage of simple things to increase dmg, by what 10 times the normal dmg, just by moving there mouse or spinning, I don't do them I don't teach them, and I know people can do some with out thinking, and I'm not posting some post saying PLEASE STOP IT, cus thats just stupid, I just wanted to ask how u guys feel about glitching. As I said I've been in JA for over a year, I remember back when I joined up to a couple of months ago were hardly anyone in JA glitched, they did it the normal way the way I prefere, I'm just asking, cus I like JA being Diff for m community, I don't want it turning in to the rest of the community, the way they fight, glitching and cheating.... Don't take this offensivly to people who do glitch cus I know alot of them and there friends, I get on with them I just want to see how the JAK+ feel on it and everyone else. _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Quote: Nicely said Dash hehe, u have a very gd point! Ty  _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: I thought "The guys" (read: Virtue + co) said they finaly got all the JAR dueling settings to be Base? damage is close to base. saber deflections are not. orions needs an older version of the compiler used to make jedi academy to make the mod handle them in the same way. (Intel c++ compiler 5.0.1) so if anyone has it....  with what version of VC would that ship ? if any ? .... msg me  _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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3th - Retired 
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Quote: And 3th, being a godly kickwhore isn't as easy as you make it sound, at least not in JK2. :p well, for better or worse it is just about that easy in JA+ and Carda, glad you agree bud the only thing that REALLY ever bothers me is insane spinning. that's just flat out goofy. other than that, if they use it fine. there's a way to beat it right? _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! This comment was edited by 3th on Apr 08 2005 04:44am. |
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Carda Jowol - Student 
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Quote: Hmmmm... how we feel about exploit/game abuse? Its something thats up for everyone themselves to decide. Sometimes I learn something which is called 'a super-move' by one person, yet glitch/abuse by someone else. Personally i think doing 'extra' dmg because I sway/glitch/wiggle/spin isnt the way Im meant to play. (Besides advancing scissors, the added speed ur swing gets due 2 advancing isnt exploit imo.) So i try 2 avoid it as much as i can. I gotta admit, so far I only stand a fair chance with red when i DO exploit, which is why I take advice from u Carda, and why i stick 2 yellow a lot LOLOLOL  But thats about me playing. I dunno what to think when someone uses exploit/abuse/glitches, I usually tell myself they use it because they have a different definition of exploit/abuse/glitch. The most "forgiving" definition might be: 'As long as its not an aimbot/h4x download but in the game/mod, its not exploit/abuse.' I cant say I love to play vs spinners/swayers/wigglers and the like, but, I cant really say they're lame cheaters either. If someone asks me for help on the other hand, I do warn 'this is considerd exploit/abuse in general, this isnt good and avoid this and that.' (<----Hows that for being vague? )Anyweh, thats how i feel about it. Nicely said Dash hehe, u have a very gd point! _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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SaZ - Student 
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well dash you said everything ... except that most of exploit users dont listen to facts and such. or they just say thing like... thats not swaying as long as you use it to advance... lol but thats even more evil than swaying while standing coz of our pretty velocity _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Dash Starlight - Jedi Instructor 
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Hmmmm... how we feel about exploit/game abuse? Its something thats up for everyone themselves to decide. Sometimes I learn something which is called 'a super-move' by one person, yet glitch/abuse by someone else. Personally i think doing 'extra' dmg because I sway/glitch/wiggle/spin isnt the way Im meant to play. (Besides advancing scissors, the added speed ur swing gets due 2 advancing isnt exploit imo.) So i try 2 avoid it as much as i can. I gotta admit, so far I only stand a fair chance with red when i DO exploit, which is why I take advice from u Carda, and why i stick 2 yellow a lot LOLOLOL But thats about me playing. I dunno what to think when someone uses exploit/abuse/glitches, I usually tell myself they use it because they have a different definition of exploit/abuse/glitch. The most "forgiving" definition might be: 'As long as its not an aimbot/h4x download but in the game/mod, its not exploit/abuse.' I cant say I love to play vs spinners/swayers/wigglers and the like, but, I cant really say they're lame cheaters either. If someone asks me for help on the other hand, I do warn 'this is considerd exploit/abuse in general, this isnt good and avoid this and that.' (<----Hows that for being vague? )Anyweh, thats how i feel about it. _______________ The name is Bond. James Bond. |
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SaZ - Student
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lol play base jk3 and youll see that jar is not set to base few days ago i played in dans server and... bahahaha instakills rate increases by 150%  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: I thought "The guys" (read: Virtue + co) said they finaly got all the JAR dueling settings to be Base? damage is close to base. saber deflections are not. orions needs an older version of the compiler used to make jedi academy to make the mod handle them in the same way. (Intel c++ compiler 5.0.1) so if anyone has it.... _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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Carda Jowol - Student 
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Quote: until they invent a saber hax that is the equivalent of an aimbot, everything you learn here applies to any server. want to kick butt on JA+ servers? just learn to double tap jump, now you are a kick whore god with the reset of 'em and you have the saber skeelz to back it up from here. want to pwn on the pubs? learn to identify teh sploitz; glide and wall delays are the soup de jour, just watch for 'em. then get out of the way of the attack. you did take a movement class or two i hope?!?!111!!! after the sploit attack is over, you know what...they're just like you and me...vulnerable to being hit if they don't get outta the damn way. learn it, love it, beat it, preach it, teach it; peace, love, and lightsabers my homies Indeed mr 3th xD couldn't say better myself me homie xD _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: I thought "The guys" (read: Virtue + co) said they finaly got all the JAR dueling settings to be Base? Once again, there's way more to it than duelling... And 3th, being a godly kickwhore isn't as easy as you make it sound, at least not in JK2. :p |
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Rinzler - Student 
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well yeah, JAR is a mod but i think the higher ups actively strive to get it as close to base as possible, i remember a few students and knights went out to base servers and recorded the damages of individual hits and then did the same on academy servers to try to get them as close as possible. i think its pretty good atm, i remember when it used to take like 6 red hits to kill and no one cared. now the deflections are (apparently) slightly out of whack and people complain all over the place. JAR may always have minor flaws, unforeseen changes and the such but i think for the most part its quite/very close to base. suitable for training _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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3th - Retired 
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until they invent a saber hax that is the equivalent of an aimbot, everything you learn here applies to any server. want to kick butt on JA+ servers? just learn to double tap jump, now you are a kick whore god with the reset of 'em and you have the saber skeelz to back it up from here. want to pwn on the pubs? learn to identify teh sploitz; glide and wall delays are the soup de jour, just watch for 'em. then get out of the way of the attack. you did take a movement class or two i hope?!?!111!!! after the sploit attack is over, you know what...they're just like you and me...vulnerable to being hit if they don't get outta the damn way. learn it, love it, beat it, preach it, teach it; peace, love, and lightsabers my homies _______________ this is the internet, be serious damn it! |
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Duffman - Student 
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"This is how the game was ment to be played" *cough* this has been said about just about every mod availible. Mods, by definition, alter things. Any map, any skin, any new saber or weapon add-on, changes it. With a perfect system, we could change or tweak what we wish, to suit the neads of the comunity that it serves. However, as we all know, JKA is far from a perfect system I know ppl that refuse to play on JAR servers because they don't like some of the small differences it has, I know ppl that refuse to play on JA+ servers because of the changes that were made, I know ppl that wont play on basejka servers because of its limited choices. There are still ppl out there that use X-Mod and omni. Duelers mod, lugar, no-poke mod (chuckle), movie battles, forcemod3, ect. It comes down to personal choice. As does how the person choses to play the game. If i had the time, patience, and expertise, i would attempt to make my own mod, but i have neither time or patience right now . i know im going to be flamed for saying this but - JAR does not = base jka It increases the vehicle limit, Adds new options to the game, it changes things, it is a MODIFICATION to the product put out by lucasarts. There is more to it then just admin comands ppl. It was made (originaly, and the current version as well i am assuming) to be used by this fine institution, and it suits its role adaquately. As we all know (mutter) JAplus is not basejka either. However, it suits its purpouse quite well, and many people use it, and prefer it over the alternatives. And its realative easyness to use and opperate, combined with the amount of eye candy, makes it quite popular. I, personaly, have issues with both mods. I have issues with base jka. I have issues with glitchers. I have issues with many people and things in this world, as im sure everyone does Its all choice and personal preferance Lets not flame and blame toodles  _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Squibit - Student 
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Oh it was ? heh well, I dunno if it is or isn't Base or not. I wouldn't notice very well, aslong as its close i have no idea... I thought "The guys" (read: Virtue + co) said they finaly got all the JAR dueling settings to be Base? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Besides, I believe it was aimed at Squib, saying the JA is basejka, while JA+ isn't... any mod is, by default, not basejka. |
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Squibit - Student
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!= means not equal to... _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Rinzler - Student
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i dont remember saying it wasnt....think the whole point is the JA plays on basejka (or as close to it as possible) which is what JAR is + admin commands and the sort (to my understanding) _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: JAR != basejka |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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JAR != basejka kthx _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Rinzler - Student 
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squib...thats cause basejka is the game. ja+ is a sidemod, its mistakes/flaws/benefits/anything are irrelevant, its a deviation from the original game - basejka. plus i learnt all i know at the academy and i play just fine at ja+, not so much different that your skills wont work there....maybe in mp damages you might find that. ja+ is still quite random though and i'd never want to learn on it because it just isnt jk3. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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i've seen servers with no wiggling/poke mods and i heard they're terrible. it's not very likely u can change such a significant part of the game without fudging it up. there've been attempts to mod the game so that it's to the liking of some; for ex, mp damages or those weird mods that try to make jk3 play like jk2. it's pretty funny because they're not really playing the game they bought...or supposedly bought. This comment was edited by Sauce on Apr 04 2005 01:34pm. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Honest player or not, I wouldn't download any unofficial patch. Too many security risks. lol seriously next time ill see you on server prepare to be lamed! i believe you use exploits in public servers - the place where you ussualy cant meet your students gotcha! security risks? where this unnofficial patch would be placed? jk2files or somethin like that. you ever downloaded files with viruses , trojans or crap like that from that site? ofcourse not... so where is risk? but yes... there are too many noobs... _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: umm since the academy was founded on the idea of training people to play better ? if you're only better on one server then that isn't a grand achievement. Agreed, but my point was, the fact that something is used on public servers alot doesnt neccersarily mean the academy should teach it. Otherwise we would need to have JA+ server classes, which obvioucly we won't because the JA is basejk only. Sidepoint - If an unofficial patch were released then the JA wouldn't use it anyway because of the baseJK only thing, _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Carda Jowol - Student
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We are the FiZZ Quote:
Quote: Glitiness is irrelavent wiggling is futile. you will be assimilated. _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Rinzler - Student
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rgr that jacen _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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