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Carda Jowol - Student  |
I need to come out and asked this cus, in the past 5 months I seen it more and more, increase of the amount of people Glitching in JA, I know I can guess to the amount of people thinking so? why can't then? theres no rule saying they can't? Ya I know I read the rules and all, I'm just having some questions about things, glitching in general is probably what 60%+ used in JA community, talking the whole game. I'm not a glitcher, I don't teach glitching, infact I don't like the fact that people can take advantage of simple things to increase dmg, by what 10 times the normal dmg, just by moving there mouse or spinning, I don't do them I don't teach them, and I know people can do some with out thinking, and I'm not posting some post saying PLEASE STOP IT, cus thats just stupid, I just wanted to ask how u guys feel about glitching. As I said I've been in JA for over a year, I remember back when I joined up to a couple of months ago were hardly anyone in JA glitched, they did it the normal way the way I prefere, I'm just asking, cus I like JA being Diff for m community, I don't want it turning in to the rest of the community, the way they fight, glitching and cheating.... Don't take this offensivly to people who do glitch cus I know alot of them and there friends, I get on with them I just want to see how the JAK+ feel on it and everyone else. _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Ooooh..thanks for pointing that out lol. I was wondering wth Dane was thinking when he said that  Yet another case of Gradius skimming setences and reading words that aren't there... _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
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Quote: umm since the academy was founded on the idea of training people to play better ? Uh...that is the idea dude lol. That's exactly what he's saying. Note there is no "when" after "since", so it isn't an actual question he's asking... it was a reply to Squib's "since when do most publics matter". |
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Fizz of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: Glitiness is irrelavent wiggling is futile. you will be assimilated. _______________ One of the Belouve boys, founder of the mighty FiZZsters Midbie council #20 - Fizz - #1933 - Jan '03 - Aug '04 "Renfield, you idiot!" |
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OMG SORRY I TURNED TO THE LEFT IM SUCH A CHEATER OMG *CRIES* |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Omg Mike switched stances on me! You exploting cheater! BANNED! _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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You know, sometimes I get the idea that people throw words around like "exploiter!" or "glitcher!" without the first damned clue as to what they're talking about. It seems to me that alot of people just throw them around as excuses because they got killed. It's like, at the first sign of someone even moving their mouse, they get accused of it. I'm not going to throw any names around or anything, but it's went from a serious problem with people cheating, to people whining about something that's all in their head. I, personally, seldom see it used at the JA. I really don't think there's a problem. The moral of the story is this; do your homework before you start throwing accusations of cheating at people.  This comment was edited by  on Apr 04 2005 09:15am. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Quote: umm since the academy was founded on the idea of training people to play better ? Uh...that is the idea dude lol. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Rinzler - Student 
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umm since the academy was founded on the idea of training people to play better ? if you're only better on one server then that isn't a grand achievement. _______________ I fite for teh usars!1 |
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Italian Ice - Student 
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Quote: since when has what most public servers do mattered ? We dont run JA+ now do we ? Rofl, i was thinking that same thing _______________ It's funny how many people know they have the right to remain silent, yet never do. |
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Squibit - Student 
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Quote: If I knock down my oppoennts sabre, i don't kill them. Why? Its not because its a glitch, im pretty sure they intended for the sabre to have a chance of being knocked to the floor. I said I know its not a glitch. But i dont do it anyway. The point i was trying to make was that it doesnt matter whether a move is a "glitch" or not. Only how much fun people get from using it. Fun = good no fun = bad Glitiness is irrelavent Edit/Addition: Quote: Now, if most of the public servers today are full of people using these 'exploits', aren't you learning if someone uses them on our servers? Quote: I know I could do over double damage in a single hit if i spin. But That would just make the duel end faster. I wouldnt have fun doing it, my opponent wouldn't have fun and I wouldn't learn anything. The only time I do occationaly spin is when helping someone else get practis in to counter it. As long as you are using exploits because someone has ask you to in order for them to work on countering them it is completly fine. Also, since when has what most public servers do mattered ? We dont run JA+ now do we ? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once 
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Furi0us - Student 
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Quote: Not really, there are plenty of 1.02 and 1.03 servers for JK2. Omg ownage 1.03 backstab gg. Anyways, the JA is here to teach us how to play JKJA. That is it's sole purpose. Now, if most of the public servers today are full of people using these 'exploits', aren't you learning if someone uses them on our servers? I like dueling people that use their 'exploits', because it means I have something to learn. I have to learn to avoid the move, counter it, whatever. That is what the JA is about, isn't it? Learning the game inside out. That's what I think. _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. |
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Carda Jowol - Student 
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ya thought it does LOL xD _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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Oh, and as for your Saber getting knocked out of your hand when you are duelling - that's not a glitch, that's supposed to happen. - Virtue.  _______________ Academy Architect |
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Virtue - Jedi Council 
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There probably is an unofficial patch for all we know. But we're not going to attempt to look for it, nor are we going to use it. The reason is that we teach people to be better at JK3, not a modified JK3 that only runs to our liking. Some of you people are getting confused with exactly what is being stated in this thread. The point isn't "Oh, it's in the game, so we may aswell use it", nor is it "This stuff shouldn't be allowed anywhere, ever!". We at the Academy heavily discourage it because 1) It IS cheating, whether you think it is or not. 2) It's just cheap and lame. It's the 'Dark Side' of gaming - the quick, easy and most effortless way of 'winning'. However, we will teach you how to defend against it and even counter it using perfectly legitemate methods. We're not trying to change the face of JK3 outside the Academy, we know that people use, and will contunue to use these things reguardless. We know and accept this fact. Our Knights and Trainers know how to counter these things and fully intend on passing the knowledge to you. Some people say there should be Classes on how to counter them - I agree, consider it done! We are an Academy. Anything you want to know or learn that is legitemate - we will teach to you, we keep no secrets. This should be enough for you. - Virtue. _______________ Academy Architect This comment was edited by Virtue on Apr 03 2005 11:06pm. |
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Orion - Retired 
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um... /me points to client side and JAR != client side. and work has me swamped, damn deadlines which I cannot speak of..*holds up NDA* _______________ When a Man lies he murder's some part of the world. These are the pale deaths which men misscall there lives. All this I cannot bear to witness any longer. Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home? -Cliff Burton Owner of Smily's 1900th comment | <Lady_Catherine> i love your sexy white socks! | (Lady_Catherine) i adore u! | (Lady_Catherine) onion (Lady_Catherine) i lub u |
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Carda Jowol - Student
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ok say if there was going to be a patch, if they can code it and fix it, why couldn't Orion...ya orion show use how gd u are and fix the darn game! xD _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Yea thats true Aratan.Ive come along 10~ jk3 servers earlier with my unpatched game.I forgot to install it after reinstalling jk3...gg Although, the number of outdated-game servers would surely increase after an official patch release. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Apr 03 2005 10:05pm. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Quote: If the patch would be an official one, then the whole community would be sort of forced to use it just because it comes from the developers.They have created this game and have the right to change whatever they wish...we, the customers, would have to either accept this patch or stop playing the game (and im sure lots of ppl would stop playing). Not really, there are plenty of 1.02 and 1.03 servers for JK2. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Honest player or not, I wouldn't download any unofficial patch. Too many security risks. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Some ppl were working on an unofficial patch a few months ago.#include was one of them ^^ I forgot the reasons why the project got dropped though. Anyway, lets just assume theres gonna be an unofficial patch.The problem with this patch would be err...that its an unofficial release.I would say that around 80% of the community is highly depending on exploits (especially the european part) ...now just imagine an unofficial patch would be released.Only a few "honest" players would download and install it...and why? The majority (the highly-exploit-depending one) wouldnt let a "random group of ppl" take their beloved exploits away. If the patch would be an official one, then the whole community would be sort of forced to use it just because it comes from the developers.They have created this game and have the right to change whatever they wish...we, the customers, would have to either accept this patch or stop playing the game (and im sure lots of ppl would stop playing). So all in all, an unofficial patch would be just like releasing a non-poking mod. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on Apr 03 2005 09:46pm. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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There's really only one way around this. Don't duel people who use these exploits. The JAK+ will never teach people how to do 90% of these exploits, the other 10% are simply part of their style and pass it on to others. What we can do is teach you how to defend yourself against exploiters. Great post Carda, tis a discussion that hasn't been brought up like this for a LONG time. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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SaZ - Student 
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hmmm the mod is not the same as patch. there is a game street legal : loads of patches etc... and after you install them you can install addons, new cars etc. so why someone cant create T3H ULTIM4T3 P4TCH and use JAR at the same time ? there are so many fans , and lots of them are good programmers , moders and such . good team of those could do something with all this crap we are bothering about. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana This comment was edited by SaZ on Apr 03 2005 09:21pm. |
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Bail Hope of Belouve - Student 
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Quote: no one answered my question : why there is no unofficial patch? many buggy games has those so why jk3 dont have it? I THINK it's because we have JAR, and JAR was created to be BaseJK, so technically, we can't run JAR AND a mod that will change the game at the same time, I think _______________ Visit the Belouve Family Website! Quote: I try to have fun with my friends and try to make a difference as best I can. What does making a difference mean? Well, it can be as simple as saying hello, answering a question that seems obvious or heck, just talking. -- Vladarion
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SaZ - Student
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no one answered my question : why there is no unofficial patch? many buggy games has those so why jk3 dont have it? _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Carda Jowol - Student 
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Sete has a valied point, there should be a class on this kind of things, A may stop people moaning about it, B if they do they wouldn't have much to complain about it, cus u would just tell them to go to the class. _______________ [Gran Father/Founder of the Jowols] |
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