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Kestral - Student  |
It is out! Its real real neat mod now Link: I forgot...search google =D _______________ A full fledged Weapon master from where he is from. He is one who wants to learn the way of the Jedi, though he will not give up his love for the weemon!!! |
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Duffman - Student 
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Quote: For the record, many are saying that you can only kick or ban those breaking the rules. This is a false statement. There is an alternate dimension now. If someone is acting up, you can /amforcealtdim # them to the 2nd dimension and they can no longer bother anyone. The 2nd dimension is a TRUE FFA no rules dimension. If someone wants to lame....toss them into the no rules dimension. They can play with the other people FFAing. This causes less grief between people and especially towards people who simply are new to the game and do not know the general rules. this only works if they have the plugin, otherwise they dont see a change, and they will still attempt to attack ppl, and only be able to attack those in the alt dimention. And the ppl without hte plugin will still be able to see the ppl in the alt dim, so it acts all wierd =/ _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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This doesnt stop them from making degrading comments or harassing people through words =) If you silence someone, hes gonna do everything to keep annoying you and the others.The ultimate solution would be a kick or ban. _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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#include - Student |
For the record, many are saying that you can only kick or ban those breaking the rules. This is a false statement. There is an alternate dimension now. If someone is acting up, you can /amforcealtdim # them to the 2nd dimension and they can no longer bother anyone. The 2nd dimension is a TRUE FFA no rules dimension. If someone wants to lame....toss them into the no rules dimension. They can play with the other people FFAing. This causes less grief between people and especially towards people who simply are new to the game and do not know the general rules. |
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Duffman - Student 
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because no mod has exactly what everyone wants (or needs some could argue) so those running the servers make a concious choice, a choice out of nesesity. JA+ is easier and just about everyone uses it. And it adds to the stuff people can do without an admin around to spawn random things to make the time pass in a more enjoyable way (jetpack, hook, random needless emotes, and of course the eye candy). what i would prefer in a mod is this- more then 1 duel at once (with duel isolation possible without a plugin, but i doubt thats gonna happen lol), a few select emotes (amhug is a must lol ^^), some admin comands that even the most "special" person can use with ease (sleep/silence/teleport without the need for co-ordinates/kick/ban/slap) and possibly some other small random things to use when you are bored. And NOT have it effect the dmg/blocking settings. other ppl want the eye candy, or the ease with which to use it, or adding stuff to it (new specals, flipkick, ect), or whatever. I use ja+ because everyone is used to it and I can deal with the differences it adds, and can hopefully teach others how to deal with differences in the mods/server settings regardless of where they play  _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Masta - Jedi Council 
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Yessir thats all fine but you still gotta agree that the ja+ saber system is pretty messed up. Imo, ja+ is far more a rp mod then a dueling mod.There are a few aspects of this mod which would be considered "good" in a rp community or with extremly social FFA servers on which ppl regulary duel less... But why using a non-dueling-mod when the only activity which takes place on the server is dueling? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. This comment was edited by Masta on May 13 2005 10:52am. |
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Duffman - Student
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if ja+ is all they know, this is quite possible yes. however if all they know is ja+, thats thier fault and that also depends on the individual server setings they prefer. some only know how to use the odd blocking that ja+ can have when u use single and stand still or walk backwards. But even basejka and the other mods can lack consistancy when it comes to aspects of the game. I have been on basejka servers, jar, omni, and xmod servers where weird things have happend (deflection shots from out of nowere, 1 hit kills from random hits ect) this is due to the quality of the jka game  nothing else"Good" players dont whine about things, they adapt and when i complain, its about how things are different from base jka, not ja+  _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone This comment was edited by Duffman on May 13 2005 09:36am. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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There are good fighters in JA+, but they are only good on that mod. Take them to any other mod, even base, and not only will they lose constantly, but they will complain about how it isn't JA+. I've seen it a million times. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Duffman - Student
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thats because most of the top noch fighters either got sick of the game, or real life got in the way, or they all decided to stay to thier own mod. On a side note - JA+ has only changed how most of the fighting/blocking/dmgs was done around 7-9 months ago. JA+ and all the other mods have been out for a year and a half now at least. There are good players all around now. And dont give me that line about "real players play on jar/base/whatever". All mods, and for that matter base jka, have issues that make them imperfect. And the only thing that would fix most of that would be a new patch for jka - which we all know isnt happening. most ppl just got sick with the whole arguement and either dealt with it, or simply left. _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Tido - Student 
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On the OS issue: yeah it has an effect. Basejka for linux and basejka for windows don't play exactly the same for that matter. The best thing to do is learn how to adapt to all the different 'feels' of jk3. JA+ fighting is a joke though, and it takes its toll on the JA+ community's abilities. Come to think of it, I can't think of one top-notch fighter that comes from JA+. |
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SaZ - Student 
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Quote: Erm...you cannot not roleplay in a RPG.Just because its called "RPG" and you automatically roleplay when playing the game. Mostly, a RPG with MP support makes it possible to play the single player quest with more then 1 person.Everything else is called MMORPG...thats why NWN is actually partially a MMORPG imo... no roleplaying is acting in character. In drama class we do 'roleplay' activities quite often. Just because your playing a RPG does not mean your roleplaying, you may be automaticly in character though since you can't say whatever you type, but the fun in it is manaul roleplay. well said... thats why most of gamers who play knightonline, mu online ,lineage2 ,diablo2, wow even ( ) just plays them as another hack and slash. ofcourse most of games i mentioned cant be rpged in proper way but still... talking 100% about skills,tactics and items in those gamesmakes you pure dull person. _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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indeed _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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solitude - Jedi Council 
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Quote: is it possible that maybe the OS which the server is using, is able to cause these differences? yes _______________ Joined 16 October 2004 | Retired 10 April 2005 | Returned 05 June 2008 | Made Staff 27 June 2008 | Made Council 18 January 2009 Padawan To Odan-Wei Belouve | Adopted into the Belouve family | Twin to xAnAtOs | Owner of the 4th Quesi sexy badge Brother To Roan Belouve, Nomad, Majno, Silkmonkey, Kensei and Jarhok Belouve
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: Erm...you cannot not roleplay in a RPG.Just because its called "RPG" and you automatically roleplay when playing the game. Mostly, a RPG with MP support makes it possible to play the single player quest with more then 1 person.Everything else is called MMORPG...thats why NWN is actually partially a MMORPG imo... no roleplaying is acting in character. In drama class we do 'roleplay' activities quite often. Just because your playing a RPG does not mean your roleplaying, you may be automaticly in character though since you can't say whatever you type, but the fun in it is manaul roleplay. _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student 
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Quote: for me basejka is impossible to play with yellow and blue stances. so ... if the game is ment to be played like that... then its not ment to be played with yellow and blue stances i guess no, juts takes alot more skill for yellow blue on base, siple as that _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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Quote: is it possible that maybe the OS which the server is using, is able to cause these differences? Quite possibly. * Pokes Orion * |
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Duffman - Student
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Quote: Of course there are abusive commands. Nobody's ever needed "slay" or "punish" for anything but humiliation. Kick and ban are all you need. don't blame the comands just because they are there. shesh and punish was so handy. sleep and silence in one. And just having kick and ban leaves a LOT to be desired. And means that all you have at your disposal when attempting to keep the peace is 2 comands. Its like arming policemen with only an assult rifle and a shotgun, and not giving them a taser or mace or even handcuffs. I know admins arnt cops, or even adults many times, but speaking as someone that has been an admin for 2 years, having lots of options is handy, instead of just kicking and baning. _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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Sauce - =^.^= 
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fumoffu. translation: lol |
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SaZ - Student
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for me basejka is impossible to play with yellow and blue stances. so ... if the game is ment to be played like that... then its not ment to be played with yellow and blue stances i guess _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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Masta - Jedi Council
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From my experience such factors like hit detection, blocking and "lag" depend not only on the mod, but on the server itself.Even while using basejka, there can be really huge differences between servers. Im not quite sure if this is possible but im very sure its not just my imagination that such differences exist.Lots of ppl confirmed that the blocking rate and the amount of ghosting is increased on a few servers. Since i dont really know anything about it...is it possible that maybe the OS which the server is using, is able to cause these differences? _______________ Find out more about the Jedi Academy Aurochs here and more about Masta here! Married to Kain. |
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Ecks - Student 
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Well, at times under basejka, you could have a blatant hit, and no damage would register. At least in other mods, if you hit... there would be damage. The hit detection is terrible in basejka IMHO. _______________ "To become a greater man, you must be a lesser one first." |
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NotSoLittleCaesar - Student
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Quote: dunno about jar and ja+ but basejka is not balanced  blocking chance is so low that sometimes i think that in dark forces 2 saber blocked more xD ....dude rofl, base jka is balanced, its the way the game was made ist he ay it was ment to be played _______________ Quote: I mostly agree oh Lord of the squeezy mop
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Quote: Of course there are abusive commands. Nobody's ever needed "slay" or "punish" for anything but humiliation. Kick and ban are all you need. /me kickbans aratan. |
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Setementor - Jedi Master
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I agree. |
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Jacen Aratan - Student |
Of course there are abusive commands. Nobody's ever needed "slay" or "punish" for anything but humiliation. Kick and ban are all you need. |
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Duffman - Student
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there are plenty of worse ppl out there, and when was the last time u were on our servers kido? _______________ *Sigh* Married to Mirael D'kana, Former master to Shangri Stomwind and Crash D'Kana, Owner of Gil-Galad's 100th post, Khâ D'Kana's 700th post, and friend to just about everyone |
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