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n00b - Student  |
I posted this comment on the news page, but I felt it would get better visibility here: You know, a large number of us, at times 8 or more and at least half of them JAK+ have been playing Instagib on MOTREC's server. It went on for at least 3-4 months (it slowed down after MOTREC wasn't able to be on 24/7.) JAK+ involved were MOTREC, Shadowsith, Gradius, Tido, and 3th regularly. There were some honorable mentions who did not play so regular, like Hardwired, SmilyKrazy, and if memory holds Virtue was there more than a few times. Sure, this may have made the home server a little scarce, but it was a hellava lot o' fun. We played all night until MOTREC went to bed. I wouldn't say these JAK+ were inactive, they were just teaching us to play Insta. Insta takes a long time to get good at so we all became very addicted to it. ShadowSith gave us quite a run for the money and some of us who sucked at first just kick arse at it now, so mission accomplished. Please factor this in before hard earned titles are stripped from people who have been doing their job and doing it quite well. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: Okay, you know what? All this bickering needs to stop right now. This thread wasn't made for disputing wether or not you like instagib. Some people asked what it was, we explained. If you don't like it, fine, don't play it, but don't dispute it ehre saying it's stupid and blah blah blah. That's not what this thread was intended to be. So, drop the discussion or move it to another thread, and get back on topic please. Thanks. Im sorry if you took my responses negatively and as bickering. _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Okay, you know what? All this bickering needs to stop right now. This thread wasn't made for disputing wether or not you like instagib. Some people asked what it was, we explained. If you don't like it, fine, don't play it, but don't dispute it ehre saying it's stupid and blah blah blah. That's not what this thread was intended to be. So, drop the discussion or move it to another thread, and get back on topic please. Thanks. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider This comment was edited by Gradius on Apr 20 2005 10:47pm. |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: It is a part of the Quake 3 engine, and it was probably a known thing when the Quake 3 engine was used for JK2 (and JK3 definately). Anyway, its used compteively. The three keys are most probably Strafe + Forward and then you tap Jump In other words people are not offended by the exploit, since it is an exploit of the enging my opinion. ( the physics make absoloutely no sense at all) Oh wel I guess you guys won't mind If I do large jumping techniques of my own that break proper physics (don't worry there probally less effective than the 'strafe' jump) _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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OpTiMe - Student 
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It is a part of the Quake 3 engine, and it was probably a known thing when the Quake 3 engine was used for JK2 (and JK3 definately). Anyway, its used compteively. The three keys are most probably Strafe + Forward and then you tap Jump _______________ ------------------------ |
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bono_bob - Student |
I would like to rebuke ymy self, I quickly checked the holocron and so the strafe jumping technique (why does my brain think its an exploit, I mean why woud slowly turning 45 degress make you move farther, or does the academy not care about exploits, or simply not care about this one?) Also there was a single bit of detail i didn't get, the holding 3 keeys down step, Holding 'what three keys down?" is my question _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: Bono_Bop, due to the people running at high speed, and also using a technique called "Strafe Jumping", Instagib isn't as easy as it seems.  Believe me, if you can strafe jump, the game is great. You get so much adrenaline jumping huge heights and then strafing along a stretch, then jumping high again, its GREAT with people on your tail ^_^Furthermore, I agree with your point n00b, the JAK are active, but this does not necessarily mean on the JA servers, doing their job on other servers with JA pupils, IMO, is GREAT! Also, may I ask, when do you guys play? I'd like to play some gib in JK3. In JK2, I was in a well known gib clan called JoR, and then .excite (the first and best ^_^)  that exactly my point "if you can strafe jump well" my opinion there is not skill in strafe jumping in a FPS game. Also like I said I GET NO ADRENALINE (sorry for the CAPS ) It actauly extremely peve me off having everyone runnign around extremely fast bunny hoping shooting a straight beam of death which does not even travel (mainly the running around really fast bunny hoping ticks me off) Its not that its easy, in fact thats teh problem, its that the FPS or my computer's speed will not sync the graphics of you moving that fast and that I have to shoot randomly guessing where your going to be in teh next second (since my reflexes are a world record low) It ticked me off so badly yesterday in halo when everyone was rapidly jumping up and down, my opiong jumping around should make you an easy target and that you should die right away, of course that is not the case. Which is why i do not like it. Oh and you can run for your life while peopel tail you without it being instagib, in any game, even halo you can run for your life as you move slow, while star wars you can still slap on speed an do the jumps and everything in normal mode. The fact is I don't like frantic running around and jumping.. that is what through me off in UC 2 for xbox, everyone jsut goes around bunny hoping shoot rockets at your feet and it is so pointless and boring. I mean in splinter cell you can do the run for you life thing and that is a stealth, non fast paced game. Yes of course it is hard to shoot them, you only get a certain amount of FPS, so basicly graphics wise they skip from location to location. ( to most people it just looks like they are moving really fast and the trail the leave behind is a blur, when really it was previous images of them, then again that is what blurrs are I guess) I never did like FPS based on aim... ( that may sound stupid, but its kind of complicated ) and since it is location all it is really is just keeping your cursor on them, while you franticly jump around... also how is 'stafe jump' even consider a technique, your just jump stafing. ( I think I have just realized why you can not jump on the rainbow six games ) If course you wanna know the fastest routes, or the routes they don't expect you to come in, but that is also how it is in any CTF game of any game. When I am bored, I might give it a try, but that won't be a while saying I havn't even gotten the change to go on the home server. On the other hand, the more I think and read about the game type, the more it sounds like I am not going to like it. Of course I won't be stubborn and just not try it from observing the information, (my brother does that way too often) Athough my copy of jedi academy probally won't even arrive for a week or so. _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Bono_Bop, due to the people running at high speed, and also using a technique called "Strafe Jumping", Instagib isn't as easy as it seems. Believe me, if you can strafe jump, the game is great. You get so much adrenaline jumping huge heights and then strafing along a stretch, then jumping high again, its GREAT with people on your tail ^_^ Furthermore, I agree with your point n00b, the JAK are active, but this does not necessarily mean on the JA servers, doing their job on other servers with JA pupils, IMO, is GREAT! Also, may I ask, when do you guys play? I'd like to play some gib in JK3. In JK2, I was in a well known gib clan called JoR, and then .excite (the first and best ^_^) _______________ ------------------------ This comment was edited by OpTiMe on Apr 20 2005 09:26pm. |
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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You can slow down the speed, it can be twice as fast, normal speed, or slower. It depends on what the server has g_speed set at. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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bono_bob - Student |
No, the more you guys say what you find fun about it is discourage me more. Running around at frantic speed shooting stuff is why i do not like the unreal tournament series or other first person shooter games... super high speed with everyone having a one shot kill weaponn is noot my style. I do not get adrenaline or get excited(excited as in pumped up or something, ill get excited when I think the game is a sweet game, but the reason I like halo is because it still is high action while not moving fast, wlthough their new update made it so you can jump even higher supposedly... which really ticks me off) by any video game, so for me fast pace is not necessarily better. Like when playing project snow blind, I like going all tactical and being in tacticle positions, then you get some guy who jsut runs aroudn with a rail gun and owning everyone while running around back and fourth in the open in an absolutely non-tacticle way. Now wolfenstein enemy territory is a blast. Now that I think about it I don't like fast paced based gamed period (cool rhyme, eh?) now wolfenstein there will be times where you run back and fourth fraticly, but your not going to own everyone doing that, in other words i don't mind dying fast, its I mind games where you move way to fast. ( now for driving games I like so fast that no one should be able to control the maximum speed for more that 10 seconds, and I mean no one  )now a battle with blasters damage pumped up and actaully moving slightly (as in your character) slower might be interesting... and tactical.... ( If a game type is basicly where crouching is praticly useless then it is most likey not matter what else the game has, I won't like it. ) _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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SaZ - Student 
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hmmm i never played this but... some say that ctf of the jka is not as good as of some other games. so this instagib will improve it to some high fun level that no ctf can match?  _______________ playing jk3 since 30th of january (2005), member since 1st of february. [Unofficial Master to Vision and Z�diac ] If you can make a fool of yourself infront of 300 people you can do anything - Jaiko D'kana |
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n00b - Student 
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Quote: plz just realize that this is a compliment n00b wants to make and leave it at that. It is a very large compliment and I really appreciate the fun we had. Sabering is cool, but after 2 years of it, it gets a little stale. For me this gave me an opportunity to experience a JK3 game style that has not been taught since JK2 (I missed out on JK2 insta.) OMG IT WAS SO MUCH FUN, I lost myself in it for so many months. We all did. There's just something about getting a well placed disintegrating snipe shot in mid air (a.k.a. the SYMTS, hehe.) Believe me, MO and SS were very patient with everyone even though at times we went off out of frustration. It was one of the high points of my stay here so far, almost as cool as being MO's paddy. It was amazing to see the evolution of skill in people and how much more fun the game became as people grew with it. Hats off again to MO and SS for the great job they did. _______________ Gone but hopefully not forgotten... This comment was edited by n00b on Apr 20 2005 02:15am. |
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MOTREC - Student 
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does this have to be another debate? really guys, n00b was pointing out just one or two of the many things the jak+ WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY on doing for students who showed a genuine interest in doing. you know like a compliment?! lets not debate what was were or who didnt get this. plz just realize that this is a compliment n00b wants to make and leave it at that. thx guys. MO |
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Gradius - Ex-Student 
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Meh, the point n00b was trying to make here guys is that even some of the inactive folks did their part in JK3 Training even away from the JA servers. Sure, Instagib aka Disruption isn't a base gametype included with the game, but it's great for CTF training and learning the quickest routes around maps. So, yes, we did do training outside of the JA servers on a mod called Disruption. Yes, it counts as training. But, the main point n00b is trying to make is that some the inactive JAK+ weren't inactive, just training outside the JA servers. So, let's not get all bickery about what exactly is considered training (Squibit and Tallepyon  ), thanks. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Quote: We were all on TS. So any academy member could join in. This was due to the fact there is no JA instagib server. Well as for being on TS that counts as being avaliabe for if a student needed to contact them. But as for the JA having no Instagib server, thats due to the fact the academy trains BASE JK (or as near as they have got so far JAR != base blah blah) only. _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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If you haven't played it before, you don't understand how fun it can be. Give it a shot. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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bono_bob - Student |
Quote: Instagib is CTF, but with a disruption rifle (sniper rifle). It's modified so it does 1-hit kills. Also, the game speed is bumped up to almost double of the default speed. Basically, it's just a faster paced version of CTF, and alot more fun in my opinion. moving faster? everyoen goign aroudn with one hit kills non charge? frantic running around... no thanks _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Tallepyon - Student 
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Quote:
Quote: Please factor this in before hard earned titles are stripped from people who have been doing their job and doing it quite well. But does the JAK+ helping people out on a non-JA server count as them being "Active" ? What about if the JATs went and trained JA members on counter-strike or somthing, would they count as being "active" then ? We were all on TS. So any academy member could join in. This was due to the fact there is no JA instagib server. |
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Squibit - Student
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Quote: Please factor this in before hard earned titles are stripped from people who have been doing their job and doing it quite well. But does the JAK+ helping people out on a non-JA server count as them being "Active" ? What about if the JATs went and trained JA members on counter-strike or somthing, would they count as being "active" then ? _______________ Quote: fiZZe: its SIR Fizzy Fluffy :p Quote: FiZZ[JAK]: that was what I call a counter Ah, things you only ever expect to hear once
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Gradius - Ex-Student
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Instagib is CTF, but with a disruption rifle (sniper rifle). It's modified so it does 1-hit kills. Also, the game speed is bumped up to almost double of the default speed. Basically, it's just a faster paced version of CTF, and alot more fun in my opinion. _______________ - Proud padawan of Kueller. - We really are at the beginning of it all. The trick, of course, is to make sure we never find the end. - Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything - <gen-e-sis-happy> Liek, you can train, liek, a n00b, but he'll just be a trained n00b... --> Wise words! - "daer SOE me likes your a company i am having your some money for letting me do stuff cos mes the best amd i do it all meself" - Slider |
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Darth Jason - Student 
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what is the instagib?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? _______________ I have seen EP3 now I can die happy and complete. Happy Star Wars Completion day everyone!!!! |
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bono_bob - Student |
What's instagib? _______________ "Darkness is simply the absence of Light" "Is it not easier to snuff out the light completely than to make no shadow or darknes at all and create pure light?" "Is there a limit to Light?" - Jawa Jedi from a galaxy far far way of the one Lucas describes ( not in that galaxy ) |
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Furi0us - Student 
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Read it again guys, then take note of the last line: Quote: Please factor this in before hard earned titles are stripped from people who have been doing their job and doing it quite well. _______________ You are not your f***ing system specs. You are not your uptime stats, your script file, or your oversized desktop screencap. You are not your broadband connection. You are not your f***ing post count. |
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R2D2 - Staff 
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I would like to try it out, always willing to learn _______________ "Do or do not, there is no try" Jedi Master Yoda Dual Saberist |
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Setementor - Jedi Master 
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CTF Server for Instagib! |
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tarpman - The Tarped Avenger 
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Didn't we have a JA Insta server for a while? Either way, maybe we should have one... I enjoy Insta _______________ Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time. |
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